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ZannoL 09/25/22 3:19:34 PM #1:	TikTok popularized the trend of buying books, quickly reading them, and returning them. Amazon has cracked down on that. Do you agree with Amazon? Yes No TikTok popularized the trend of buying books, quickly reading them, and returning them. Amazon has cracked down on that. Do you agree with Amazon? - Results (99 votes) Yes 81.82% (81 votes) 81 No 18.18% (18 votes) 18 https://lithub.com/good-news-for-authors-amazon-will-no-longer-let-people-return-ebooks-after-reading-them-in-full/ In a surprising turn of events, Amazon has done the right thing for once! In this case, the right thing is closing a loophole revealed by a TikTok about reading hacks. The hack: reading an entire ebook and then returning it, per a policy that allows readers to return ebooks within seven days of purchase, regardless of the amount read. The (extremely) obvious problem with the hack is that it penalizes the authors of those books and not Amazon, who will not be penalized by anything short of government regulation (lol). In light of this, the Authors Guild got involved, and reported today that Amazon had agreed to restrict automatic returns to ebooks where no more than 10 percent of the book has been read. (In order to return an ebook after reading more than 10 percent, customers will have to send in a customer service requestlikely a higher barrier to entry for this low-grade scam than most people will willingly vault.) Id like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the Libby appwhich allows you to check out ebooks from your local library and read them on your phone, tablet, or ereaderis good for authors, your bank account, and not supporting Jeff Bezos. For more reading hacks like these, follow me on TikTok! (Just kidding, Id sooner die.) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/0/AAaB-xAADtmk.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/1/AAaB-xAADtml.jpg <cite>ZannoL posted [p:968286077] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote> TikTok popularized the trend of buying books, quickly reading them, and returning them. Amazon has cracked down on that. Do you agree with Amazon? Yes No Vote View Results TikTok popularized the trend of buying books, quickly reading them, and returning them. Amazon has cracked down on that. Do you agree with Amazon? - Results (99 votes) Yes 81.82% (81 votes) 81 No 18.18% (18 votes) 18 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80177907', message: '0', key: 'a9754482' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } https://lithub.com/good-news-for-authors-amazon-will-no-longer-let-people-return-ebooks-after-reading-them-in-full/ <quote>In a surprising turn of events, Amazon has done the right thing for once! In this case, the right thing is closing a loophole revealed by a TikTok about reading hacks. The hack: reading an entire ebook and then returning it, per a policy that allows readers to return ebooks within seven days of purchase, regardless of the amount read. The (extremely) obvious problem with the hack is that it penalizes the authors of those books and not Amazon, who will not be penalized by anything short of government regulation (lol). In light of this, the Authors Guild got involved, and reported today that Amazon had agreed to restrict automatic returns to ebooks where no more than 10 percent of the book has been read. (In order to return an ebook after reading more than 10 percent, customers will have to send in a customer service requestlikely a higher barrier to entry for this low-grade scam than most people will willingly vault.) Id like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the Libby appwhich allows you to check out ebooks from your local library and read them on your phone, tablet, or ereaderis good for authors, your bank account, and not supporting Jeff Bezos. For more reading hacks like these, follow me on TikTok! (Just kidding, Id sooner die.)</quote> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/0/AAaB-xAADtmk.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/1/AAaB-xAADtml.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 09/25/22 3:20:44 PM #2:	Yes, and fuck those tiktok scumbags. <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:968286109] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Yes, and fuck those tiktok scumbags.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotACon 09/25/22 3:21:21 PM #3:	ZannoL posted... For more reading hacks like these, follow me on TikTok! (Just kidding, Id sooner die.) HAHAHAHAH <cite>TotACon posted [p:968286122] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>ZannoL posted... </cite><quote>For more reading hacks like these, follow me on TikTok! (Just kidding, Id sooner die.)</quote>HAHAHAHAH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 09/25/22 3:21:47 PM #4:	They should just punish the people abusing the returns instead of nerfing the returns entirely. --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool <cite>Error1355 posted [p:968286142] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>They should just punish the people abusing the returns instead of nerfing the returns entirely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bnui_ransder 09/25/22 3:21:51 PM #5:	People are all about fucking each other over now so this is good --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T <cite>bnui_ransder posted [p:968286143] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>People are all about fucking each other over now so this is good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 09/25/22 3:26:22 PM #6:	Tiktok was a mistake --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1531-food-delivery-services-general <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:968286209] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Tiktok was a mistake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/25/22 3:30:00 PM #7:	Man if only there was some thing you could do to get books every week for free. Like maybe they could have a building with a bunch of books in it and you can take anything in there you want you just have to give it back in a week and the whole thing would be free. Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything. Someone should work on making that happen. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:968286308] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Man if only there was some thing you could do to get books every week for free. Like maybe they could have a building with a bunch of books in it and you can take anything in there you want you just have to give it back in a week and the whole thing would be free. Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything. Someone should work on making that happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 09/25/22 3:31:22 PM #8:	Yeah, percentage based return windows are fair. Should be standard for all digital media. Rather silly to make it just time-based like it was. <cite>Nemu posted [p:968286336] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, percentage based return windows are fair. Should be standard for all digital media. Rather silly to make it just time-based like it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunkyCat 09/25/22 3:43:43 PM #10:	pfh1001 posted... Yes, and fuck those tiktok scumbags. Tyranthraxus posted... Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything. Tbf, you generally do need an account to take books out of the library so they can keep track of who has them. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>FunkyCat posted [p:968286616] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>pfh1001 posted... </cite><quote>Yes, and fuck those tiktok scumbags.</quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything.</quote>Tbf, you generally do need an account to take books out of the library so they can keep track of who has them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 09/25/22 3:47:22 PM #11:	As long as they paid for them. Also how the hell do you return a digital book anyway? Tyranthraxus posted... Man if only there was some thing you could do to get books every week for free. Like maybe they could have a building with a bunch of books in it and you can take anything in there you want you just have to give it back in a week and the whole thing would be free. Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything. Someone should work on making that happen. Thread won --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:968286697] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>As long as they paid for them. Also how the hell do you return a digital book anyway?Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Man if only there was some thing you could do to get books every week for free. Like maybe they could have a building with a bunch of books in it and you can take anything in there you want you just have to give it back in a week and the whole thing would be free. Wouldn't even need an account or password or anything. Someone should work on making that happen.</quote>Thread won </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/25/22 3:52:58 PM #12:	FunkyCat posted... Tbf, you generally do need an account to take books out of the library so they can keep track of who has them. These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:968286809] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>FunkyCat posted... </cite><quote>Tbf, you generally do need an account to take books out of the library so they can keep track of who has them.</quote>These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunkyCat 09/25/22 3:54:43 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever. Huh. My local libraries in UK still have them at least. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>FunkyCat posted [p:968286845] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever.</quote>Huh. My local libraries in UK still have them at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cadcrafter 09/25/22 4:04:55 PM #14:	Just do something like steam where you can only make one return every two weeks, seems like the easiest solution --- "think before you press enter. all of you." - SmashFaqs Discord i want lemm to eat ten egg <cite>cadcrafter posted [p:968287097] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Just do something like steam where you can only make one return every two weeks, seems like the easiest solution</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 09/25/22 4:13:37 PM #15:	Yeah doing that is shitty to the authors. Get a library card if you just want to rent books --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:968287339] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Yeah doing that is shitty to the authors. Get a library card if you just want to rent books</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 09/25/22 4:14:40 PM #16:	Tyranthraxus posted... These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever. We have a library card at our city library --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:968287378] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever.</quote>We have a library card at our city library</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeShirt 09/25/22 4:16:50 PM #17:	We still use library cards in PA <cite>OrangeShirt posted [p:968287460] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>We still use library cards in PA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grinderpug 09/25/22 4:44:58 PM #18:	Libby is awesome! Also, I voted wrong Got me a library card over the summer for pc access. I checked out the Old Man and the Sea for English class on Libby but ended up just buying it. --- Grrr <cite>Grinderpug posted [p:968288104] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Libby is awesome! Also, I voted wrong Got me a library card over the summer for pc access. I checked out the Old Man and the Sea for English class on Libby but ended up just buying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cuticrusader09 09/25/22 4:51:01 PM #19:	FunkyCat posted... Huh. My local libraries in UK still have them at least. I dont know what hes talking about. We still have library cards in CT. <cite>Cuticrusader09 posted [p:968288225] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>FunkyCat posted... </cite><quote>Huh. My local libraries in UK still have them at least.</quote>I dont know what hes talking about. We still have library cards in CT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 09/25/22 4:54:23 PM #20:	Grinderpug posted... Libby is awesome! Save money and not have to get up and drive to library? I love it <cite>ZannoL posted [p:968288306] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Grinderpug posted... </cite><quote>Libby is awesome!</quote>Save money and not have to get up and drive to library? I love it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/25/22 4:54:54 PM #21:	What an annoyingly written article. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968288320] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>What an annoyingly written article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/25/22 4:54:59 PM #22:	I used to go to the library. They had CDs and DVDs too. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:968288324] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>I used to go to the library. They had CDs and DVDs too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scorsese2002 09/25/22 4:57:24 PM #23:	How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature --- https://www.twitch.tv/dtake86 <cite>Scorsese2002 posted [p:968288369] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/25/22 4:58:11 PM #24:	Scorsese2002 posted... How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that? --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:968288395] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite><quote>How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature</quote>How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 09/25/22 4:58:44 PM #25:	Scorsese2002 posted... How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature what wrong with swiping. i havent read a physical books in ages and just use ebook. it lets me read in the dark :) --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:968288409] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite><quote>How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature</quote>what wrong with swiping. i havent read a physical books in ages and just use ebook. it lets me read in the dark :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/25/22 5:00:19 PM #26:	Funkydog posted... How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that? No. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968288443] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that?</quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kajagogo 09/25/22 5:01:46 PM #27:	Tyranthraxus posted... These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever. I just got a new library card. --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:968288471] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever.</quote>I just got a new library card. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cagey 09/25/22 5:02:13 PM #28:	Error1355 posted... They should just punish the people abusing the returns instead of nerfing the returns entirely. You think there's a lot of legitimate returns with more than 10% read? I wonder what the time frame will be, regardless. <cite>Cagey posted [p:968288477] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Error1355 posted... </cite><quote>They should just punish the people abusing the returns instead of nerfing the returns entirely.</quote>You think there's a lot of legitimate returns with more than 10% read? I wonder what the time frame will be, regardless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 09/25/22 5:03:43 PM #29:	Funkydog posted... How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that? I agree. Literature is literature. If you're reading on a physical book and it works for you, great. If you're more of an e-reader person, then that's great too. What's important is that you're reading something. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:968288507] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that?</quote>I agree. Literature is literature. If you're reading on a physical book and it works for you, great. If you're more of an e-reader person, then that's great too. What's important is that you're reading something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/25/22 5:04:20 PM #30:	Normalise renting and returning books like a library. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:968288524] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Normalise renting and returning books like a library.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 09/25/22 5:10:50 PM #31:	Of course they're cracking down on it. Those idiots should have known Amazon would put a stop to that. The people that spread that "hack" were being extremely short sighted. Lil_Bit83 posted... As long as they paid for them. Also how the hell do you return a digital book anyway? By requesting a refund. Basically they were buying a digital book, reading the book within a week, and then requesting a full refund. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:968288663] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Of course they're cracking down on it. Those idiots should have known Amazon would put a stop to that. The people that spread that "hack" were being extremely short sighted.Lil_Bit83 posted... </cite><quote>As long as they paid for them. Also how the hell do you return a digital book anyway?</quote>By requesting a refund. Basically they were buying a digital book, reading the book within a week, and then requesting a full refund.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 09/25/22 5:14:32 PM #32:	Funkydog posted... How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that? I know its not what you mean but this topic is about readers stealing from authors by exploiting a loophole. --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:968288737] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>How about supporting people reading, no matter in what way they choose to do that?</quote>I know its not what you mean but this topic is about readers stealing from authors by exploiting a loophole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/25/22 5:23:52 PM #33:	DespondentDeity posted... I know its not what you mean but this topic is about readers stealing from authors by exploiting a loophole. Thanks for explaining something to me you admit you didn't need to. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:968288931] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>DespondentDeity posted... </cite><quote>I know its not what you mean but this topic is about readers stealing from authors by exploiting a loophole.</quote>Thanks for explaining something to me you admit you didn't need to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/25/22 5:45:24 PM #34:	Scorsese2002 posted... How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature What's the difference? They're still reading the same content. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:968289338] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite><quote>How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature</quote>What's the difference? They're still reading the same content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/25/22 5:47:30 PM #35:	Authors should be employed by the state and their books should be sold at cost --- Please join the 100 Presidents community board and contribute to the project! Check back for updates! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:968289390] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Authors should be employed by the state and their books should be sold at cost</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DisgracefulSins 09/25/22 6:05:20 PM #36:	I'm fine with it. You wanna read books for free, it's called a library. --- If you want something done right, do it yourself. So note to self: Do more myself. <cite>DisgracefulSins posted [p:968289776] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>I'm fine with it. You wanna read books for free, it's called a library.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 09/25/22 6:06:03 PM #37:	MedeaLysistrata posted... Authors should be employed by the state and their books should be sold at cost There is no way this could possibly go wrong. --- In order to rule the world, one must first rule one's own Trumble. http://error1355.com/ce/Trumble.html <cite>Trumble posted [p:968289793] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite><quote>Authors should be employed by the state and their books should be sold at cost</quote>There is no way this could possibly go wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/25/22 6:26:14 PM #38:	Trumble posted... There is no way this could possibly go wrong. There are plenty of ways for it to go wrong. I'm not sure how I feel about a novel costing 30 bucks. --- Please join the 100 Presidents community board and contribute to the project! Check back for updates! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:968290190] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>There is no way this could possibly go wrong.</quote>There are plenty of ways for it to go wrong.I'm not sure how I feel about a novel costing 30 bucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samsungsugar 09/25/22 6:28:19 PM #39:	Why not just offer rental books digitally like a library? Amazon already does it for movies, you get 30 days to start it, then 48 hours to finish watching once you start. --- Pay attention; it's free. <cite>samsungsugar posted [p:968290235] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Why not just offer rental books digitally like a library? Amazon already does it for movies, you get 30 days to start it, then 48 hours to finish watching once you start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/25/22 6:53:33 PM #40:	samsungsugar posted... Why not just offer rental books digitally like a library? Amazon already does it for movies, you get 30 days to start it, then 48 hours to finish watching once you start. They do have that. It's called Kindle unlimited. There's also a feature called Kindle Lending Library which is part of Amazon prime. It has a more narrow selection than Kindle unlimited but it's included for free if you're already paying for prime. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:968290825] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>samsungsugar posted... </cite><quote>Why not just offer rental books digitally like a library? Amazon already does it for movies, you get 30 days to start it, then 48 hours to finish watching once you start.</quote>They do have that. It's called Kindle unlimited. There's also a feature called Kindle Lending Library which is part of Amazon prime. It has a more narrow selection than Kindle unlimited but it's included for free if you're already paying for prime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 09/25/22 10:24:41 PM #41:	Tyranthraxus posted... These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever. I have one --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:968295233] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>These days they use your Driver's license or other state id. I don't think I've seen a "library card" in forever.</quote>I have one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 09/25/22 10:25:28 PM #42:	NoxObscuras posted... Of course they're cracking down on it. Those idiots should have known Amazon would put a stop to that. The people that spread that "hack" were being extremely short sighted. By requesting a refund. Basically they were buying a digital book, reading the book within a week, and then requesting a full refund. Ohh! --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:968295248] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Of course they're cracking down on it. Those idiots should have known Amazon would put a stop to that. The people that spread that "hack" were being extremely short sighted.By requesting a refund. Basically they were buying a digital book, reading the book within a week, and then requesting a full refund.</quote>Ohh!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 10:26:26 PM #43:	i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating? <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968295267] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 10:29:19 PM #44:	Nemu posted... Yeah, percentage based return windows are fair. Should be standard for all digital media. Rather silly to make it just time-based like it was. Percentage based or a set amount of time, whatever is longer. If its a video game it doesnt make sense to block refunds after playing for 10 minutes because youve already beaten 60% of the game. Its easier to apply this rule for books since you know how many pages the book is before you buy it <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968295322] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, percentage based return windows are fair. Should be standard for all digital media. Rather silly to make it just time-based like it was.</quote>Percentage based or a set amount of time, whatever is longer. If its a video game it doesnt make sense to block refunds after playing for 10 minutes because youve already beaten 60% of the game. Its easier to apply this rule for books since you know how many pages the book is before you buy it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 09/25/22 10:32:39 PM #45:	People are being encouraged to read more, and more quickly? Better nip that in the bud! --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:968295379] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>People are being encouraged to read more, and more quickly? Better nip that in the bud!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 09/25/22 10:42:08 PM #46:	Kloe_Rinz posted... i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating? This hurts the authors too --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:968295579] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating?</quote>This hurts the authors too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 09/25/22 10:48:07 PM #47:	Scorsese2002 posted... How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature Why should they read a book? They should be reading clay tablets written in cuneiform. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:968295734] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite><quote>How about reading an actual book and not swiping through literature</quote>Why should they read a book? They should be reading clay tablets written in cuneiform.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 09/25/22 10:49:58 PM #48:	Kloe_Rinz posted... i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating? Because the average person, or "normies" as we here in the online nerd culture have called them since at least the late 2000s, has not ever known how to pirate and will not ever know how to pirate. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:968295782] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>i dont particularly care if Amazon loses money. In fact its great if they do. However why are people abusing the refund system instead of just pirating?</quote>Because the average person, or "normies" as we here in the online nerd culture have called them since at least the late 2000s, has not ever known how to pirate and will not ever know how to pirate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 10:53:17 PM #49:	MC_BatCommander posted... This hurts the authors too In comparison to just pirating their novel, does a refund hurt them more? I would assume the payment gets reversed but apart from that they arent out any money. Yeah it sucks that they had the money in the bank and its taken away, but they should consider these as sales they never had in the first place <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968295862] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>This hurts the authors too</quote>In comparison to just pirating their novel, does a refund hurt them more? I would assume the payment gets reversed but apart from that they arent out any money. Yeah it sucks that they had the money in the bank and its taken away, but they should consider these as sales they never had in the first place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 10:54:24 PM #50:	Shadowplay posted... Because the average person, or "normies" as we here in the online nerd culture have called them since at least the late 2000s, has not ever known how to pirate and will not ever know how to pirate. God damn everyone my age knows how to pirate, in fact youd be called stupid back in the day for not pirating >.> <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968295889] in Amazon cra... [t:80177907]...</cite> <quote>Shadowplay posted... </cite><quote>Because the average person, or "normies" as we here in the online nerd culture have called them since at least the late 2000s, has not ever known how to pirate and will not ever know how to pirate.</quote>God damn everyone my age knows how to pirate, in fact youd be called stupid back in the day for not pirating >.> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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