Board 8 > The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero Review Zone

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Shattered posted...

I'm guessing the chance of me getting my hand on a limited edition at this point are zero right? Unless I pay the outrageous eBay prices?

To answer my own question. They just put up more on the NIS store

_stingers_ posted...

Any chance that the save files from the fan version can be transported over to the official one

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1668510

Picked it up!

....and now to tuck it away while I finish playthrough through the entire FE series.

MacArrowny posted...

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1668510

Ah that's great news. Durante is way too much of a blessing

Was debating replaying this and realized good lord its been 5 and a half years since I played Zero the first time.

It does not feel like its been that long...

Shattered posted...

To answer my own question. They just put up more on the NIS store

oh good hopefully they do this with Azure because I missed out on the limited edition preorders

_stingers_ posted...

Ah that's great news. Durante is way too much of a blessing

I want to throw all my money at any project Durante is working on.

https://twitter.com/Zero_Tales/status/1575985565832400896

typical Trails fans

They're assholes for spoiling it for people. But we're probably not seeing the events of that game in English for another 3 years at the bare minimum so you were always gonna get impatient people wanting to know everything right away. After the delay translating Crossbell has caused they really need to knuckle down and try firing these games out yearly in a hope to getting closer to Japan. We can't afford to get even further behind.

yeah at this point it's actually ridiculous that they somehow aren't able to build off of cold steel's success and get this localized quicker

their dedication to porting them to every platform will ensure they don't come out in a timely fashion

At least since it's been 2 years since Cold Steel IV I'm not feeling any Trails fatigue replaying Zero like this.

And I mean we're getting Azure, Nayuta and Reverie all next year so it's definitely going to be a year of Trails

You throw in Falcom likely focusing on Ys X for 2023 we'll at least be on the road to Kuro by the time they announce whatever they have planned next.

SHINE_GET_64 posted...

their dedication to porting them to every platform will ensure they don't come out in a timely fashion

This has nothing to do with localization speed. Durante is the one that ported them, not Falcom.
The biggest reason they don't come out in a timely fashion is because Falcom refuses to give anyone they're partnered with their scripts before the games come out in Japan, so they can only start working on them after the come out in Japan.

Literally no other company does this. Even companies that don't do simultaneous releases still provide their scripts to the translators well before the game comes out.

There is no excuse for constantly taking 2-3 years to release a translated version other than stubbornness.

Yeah, catching up completely was probably never happening. It's a bit of a shame that Reverie will be a 3 year gap after ToCS 3+4 were 2 year gaps, though of course that probably has something to do with Zero/Azure/Nayuta releasing in that period. Kuro and Kuro 2 both coming out in 2024 would bring it back down to a 2 year gap, but I don't know if that's terribly likely...

Kinda sucks the PS4 doesn't have a shelf life like the PS3 did. Means they don't really have a reason to rush any of these games out like that had to with CS 1 and 2.

Hm? CS1+2 had the same 2 year gap CS3+4 did.

shane15 posted...

They're assholes for spoiling it for people.

me out here still only on the 6th Trails game dodging spoilers like evasion-tank Lloyd

Honestly, part of me wonders if simultaneous platform release is also partly responsible for the gap increasing. PS4 previously enjoyed getting the first release basically a year ahead of PC/Switch.

Kuro 2024 I could believe, but not Kuro II but I'd love to be wrong.

MacArrowny posted...

Hm? CS1+2 had the same 2 year gap CS3+4 did.

The difference being CS1+2 were right at the end of the PS3 so needed to come out faster to maximise sales. Pretty sure that's the reason xseed decided to localise those over Crossbell at the time.

Pretty sure XSEED is on the record as Falcom having approached them and asked them to localize Cold Steel when they did.

Keep in mind, this was all going down while SC was still in limbo, nevermind Crossbell.

Well whatever the case it was the right call in the end. The screw up happened when they didn't bother going back to Crossbell between CS2 and 3 because we had no publisher.

I wonder if the SC debacle played a role in Falcom parting ways with XSEED?

shane15 posted...

The difference being CS1+2 were right at the end of the PS3 so needed to come out faster to maximise sales. Pretty sure that's the reason xseed decided to localise those over Crossbell at the time.

But... they didn't come faster than 3/4. They came out at the same speed.

MacArrowny posted...

I wonder if the SC debacle played a role in Falcom parting ways with XSEED?

The most plausible theory I've heard actually has Tokyo Xanadu as the culprit.

You can pretty neatly draw a line in the timeline through Tokyo Xanadu with the before being XSEED basically being the exclusive English localization partner and them basically being shut out.

The story, IIRC, is basically that Falcom pitched Tokyo Xanadu to XSEED and they turned it down because it was a Vita only title at a time where the Vita was already dead outside of Japan. So Falcom shopped it around and Aksys bit. Unknown to XSEED or Aksys was that Falcom was working on the Tokyo Xanadu ex PS4 port which all of a sudden made it a much more viable title.

But basically ever since then Falcom has basically been working with NIS and I believe there's also a connection at the highest levels there in Japan as well. We know XSEED tried to get Ys VIII but obviously that went to NISA. Don't know if they tried for CS3 but we all know how things went from there.

So I haven't played this yet, and nobody has posted really since it came out, but I hear this is....not the best release? Problems with both the game content and the physical goods?

I mean it's a port of a 12-year-old Vita game for one thing

for another a lot of us already found other ways to play it by now

PSP game

UshiromiyaEva posted...

So I haven't played this yet, and nobody has posted really since it came out, but I hear this is....not the best release?

I have no idea but I absolutely would never trust the general Trails fanbase to rationally arrive at this conclusion.

If specific people (ie. not "person on reddit/twitter") are pointing out specific, concrete problems then that's another story.

Sorry I shouldn't phrase that to mean that nobody on reddit/twitter is trustworthy. What I mean is that if *twitter user with name I don't recognize* starts complaining about things like translation quality or whatever for a Trails release I'm just going to roll my eyes.

Oh I get that for sure, but some people are saying some of the lines of text are actually showing up as untranslated period, still in Japanese.

I finished the platinum and did not encounter any of that

The only weird text was when you get one of the ultimate weapons it displayed the weapon name in white text instead of blue text with the coding to make it blue partially written out next to it.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Oh I get that for sure, but some people are saying some of the lines of text are actually showing up as untranslated period, still in Japanese.

Yeah don't believe that

https://twitter.com/addaberry/status/1579548156697915392

RIP

RIP

Leonhart4 posted...

Yeah don't believe that

I have personally come across two untranslated lines

they're random NPCs, but it's a real thing