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BlueTigerLion
08/23/22 1:01:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INn4sakFASQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dobc0UUBQIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEWZbXTbdc

I started getting recommended Andrew Tate videos for some reason and those came up. Had no idea he had so many defenders. I wonder if it is because they think they could be next.

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Umbreon
08/23/22 1:03:44 PM
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Could just be doing it for clicks. If it's recent, it's topical.


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apocalyptic_4
08/23/22 1:07:04 PM
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In his defense I've seen Andrew tates vids long before he blew up and he actually has some good takes.

his bad takes however are all cancel worthy which I'm not surprised by. It's intresting though that many here are taking these news story at face value. The media essentially highlighted his worst bits with no context. But I guess that's the point of cancel media I'm not a fan of andrew tate but the way things unfolded for him was intresting to observe.

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Antifar
08/23/22 1:07:49 PM
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Whotubers is more like it.

Because who are they?

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Stewman_Magoo
08/23/22 1:08:26 PM
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Wow I couldn't think of a worse thread of videos to click on

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Tyranthraxus
08/23/22 1:10:46 PM
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Ban anyone defending him. This is functionality equivalent to making a video about how awesome vector marketing is and why you should want to work for them. They are just encouraging people to get scammed.

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Umbreon
08/23/22 1:13:14 PM
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Antifar posted...
Whotubers is more like it.

Because who are they?


Someone asshole who said women are property.

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NoMeLx22x
08/23/22 1:13:27 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
In his defense I've seen Andrew tates vids long before he blew up and he actually has some good takes.

Please state them.

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BlueTigerLion
08/23/22 1:15:19 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
In his defense I've seen Andrew tates vids long before he blew up and he actually has some good takes.

his bad takes however are all cancel worthy which I'm not surprised by. It's intresting though that many here are taking these news story at face value. The media essentially highlighted his worst bits with no context. But I guess that's the point of cancel media I'm not a fan of andrew tate but the way things unfolded for him was intresting to observe.

A summary of the three videos are there they say there are likely lots of young men out there who share his same beliefs. And his arguments should be debated. Banning him wont change his audience's views.

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WingsOfGood
08/23/22 1:16:13 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
In his defense I've seen Andrew tates vids long before he blew up and he actually has some good takes.

his bad takes however are all cancel worthy which I'm not surprised by. It's intresting though that many here are taking these news story at face value. The media essentially highlighted his worst bits with no context. But I guess that's the point of cancel media I'm not a fan of andrew tate but the way things unfolded for him was intresting to observe.

1. Such as?

2. Everyone has some good takes. What makes a person a piece of shit is having loats of bad takes. His cult is weird in that way. "But he said that one thing so he isn't such a bad guy even though he said all that other stuff about hitting women!"
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Suolevram
08/23/22 1:17:06 PM
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Don't watch them?

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BlueTigerLion
08/23/22 1:17:37 PM
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Antifar posted...
Whotubers is more like it.

Because who are they?

Why do people do this? If you dont know who the individuals are why even waste your time to post you dont know them.

Aba & Preach are a popular reaction channel. Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball also arent nobodies they have a huge following too.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/22 1:18:36 PM
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NoMeLx22x posted...
Please state them.
The good takes are probably the underlying bullshit of better yourself, be better, and make yourself better. That all these stupid alt-right grifters start their base with.

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lww99
08/23/22 1:19:04 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Ban anyone defending him. This is functionality equivalent to making a video about how awesome vector marketing is and why you should want to work for them. They are just encouraging people to get scammed.


hahaha vector. I walked out of my interview

they were selling knives, and wanted you to purchase x amount of knives to sell to the public. That was the job


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BlueTigerLion
08/23/22 1:24:46 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
The good takes are probably the underlying bullshit of better yourself, be better, and make yourself better. That all these stupid alt-right grifters start their base with.

Yea. I heard someone compare Andrew Tate's good takes to Jordan Peterson's clean your room. But when you dig deeper you hear some bad takes.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/22 1:27:15 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Yea. I heard someone compare Andrew Tate's good takes to Jordan Peterson's clean your room. But when you dig deeper you hear some bad takes.
Its not even digging deeper it more like wiping the dust off.

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LightHawKnight
08/23/22 1:30:31 PM
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Ban these people too.

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BlueTigerLion
08/23/22 1:32:04 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Andrew has done several interviews. People repost those interviews which feature comments that are against TOS. And he has been banned from TikTok, FB, and IG for those reposted interviews. As far as I know he doesnt really post any videos it is all other people reposting interviews or podcast clips of him.

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theAteam
08/23/22 1:33:00 PM
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From his wiki

In a now-deleted video posted to his YouTube channel, Tate stated that he decided to move to Romania because it was easier to be absolved of rape charges in Eastern Europe.[25] In April 2022, Tate's house was raided by the Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism of Romania (DIICOT) in relation to a human trafficking and rape investigation.[26] The U.S. embassy had previously alerted Romanian police that an American woman might be held at the property.[3] The raid resulted in the recovery of an American woman and a Romanian woman.[26] As of April 2022, Romanian authorities said that the investigation was ongoing. A U.S. State Department spokesperson referred to the reported abduction but declined to comment further, citing privacy considerations.[27] Tate denies any wrongdoing.[3]

yikes

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 1:34:36 PM
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The point of the videos I seen are less defending Andrew Tate and more so saying that banning him from social media accounts isn't gonna get rid of him. It's just they're not blindly jumping on the trend of banning him and pretending we won. If you call that defending him, you just prove that you don't understand the nuance that people like Aba and Preach covers. Granted, I don't agree with everything they say. Cause just like you did to them, you'll be super ready to take every word they say as coming out of my mouth too as soon as I don't write off everything they say. This tactic is so god damn old and dusty.

I don't know the other 2 videos. But why watch them when I already see what you're trying to falsely imply about the first.

Edit: I don't think it's a "tactic" actually. It's just ignorance and the lack of caring who you throw under a bus with zero actual insight. So, it's not as smart as someone with tactics.

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WingsOfGood
08/23/22 1:39:05 PM
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theAteam posted...
From his wiki

In a now-deleted video posted to his YouTube channel, Tate stated that he decided to move to Romania because it was easier to be absolved of rape charges in Eastern Europe.[25] In April 2022, Tate's house was raided by the Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism of Romania (DIICOT) in relation to a human trafficking and rape investigation.[26] The U.S. embassy had previously alerted Romanian police that an American woman might be held at the property.[3] The raid resulted in the recovery of an American woman and a Romanian woman.[26] As of April 2022, Romanian authorities said that the investigation was ongoing. A U.S. State Department spokesperson referred to the reported abduction but declined to comment further, citing privacy considerations.[27] Tate denies any wrongdoing.[3]

yikes


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Questionmarktarius
08/23/22 1:44:52 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Could just be doing it for clicks. If it's recent, it's topical.
Probably.
I'd assume, however, that youtubers who have no backup plan and basically use youtubing as a job, are beginning to realize how fragile a "platform economy" really is.

If anything, this proves how streaming and vloging really is a "job", in that youtube or twitch or tiktok or whatever is your boss, and you can be fired at any time. It's the smart ones who annoy you with NordVPN and Raid Shadow Legends spamming, and patreon begging.
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Dathrowed1
08/23/22 1:45:27 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
The point of the videos I seen are less defending Andrew Tate and more so saying that banning him from social media accounts isn't gonna get rid of him. It's just they're not blindly jumping on the trend of banning him and pretending we won. If you call that defending him, you just prove that you don't understand the nuance that people like Aba and Preach covers. Granted, I don't agree with everything they say. Cause just like you did to them, you'll be super ready to take every word they say as coming out of my mouth too as soon as I don't write off everything they say. This tactic is so god damn old and dusty.

I don't know the other 2 videos. But why watch them when I already see what you're trying to falsely imply about the first.

Edit: I don't think it's a "tactic" actually. It's just ignorance and the lack of caring who you throw under a bus with zero actual insight. So, it's not as smart as someone with tactics.
Yeah the first two videos link that he is more a symptom and not a disease and that these bans don't resolve the real issues

The latter one kind of goes with theirs saying you shouldn't be so fragile about your ideas to censor instead of debate

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Donomark
08/23/22 1:52:32 PM
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Ok. Wait. What do we mean by "getting rid of him?"

No, the bans obviously won't make him evaporate, melt away, or otherwise disappear, but that's not the point. The point is denying him a platform. That matters. If it didn't, why would he (and other people) presumably care enough to complain about him being banned?

The goal is not "make it so that no one ever listens to this guy and everyone who believed in him no longer does." That's not the point and I doubt any of the people that banned him thought that their ban would accomplish that. The point is, "Well, he's not going to use OUR platform to spread his bull****." That's their right. I don't see what the problem is.


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Smashingpmkns
08/23/22 1:56:53 PM
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I dunno let's ask Milo Yiannopoulos if deplatforming works

https://www.twitter.com/Nero

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WingsOfGood
08/23/22 2:05:02 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
The point of the videos I seen are less defending Andrew Tate and more so saying that banning him from social media accounts isn't gonna get rid of him. It's just they're not blindly jumping on the trend of banning him and pretending we won. If you call that defending him, you just prove that you don't understand the nuance that people like Aba and Preach covers. Granted, I don't agree with everything they say. Cause just like you did to them, you'll be super ready to take every word they say as coming out of my mouth too as soon as I don't write off everything they say. This tactic is so god damn old and dusty.

I don't know the other 2 videos. But why watch them when I already see what you're trying to falsely imply about the first.

Edit: I don't think it's a "tactic" actually. It's just ignorance and the lack of caring who you throw under a bus with zero actual insight. So, it's not as smart as someone with tactics.

He is duping incels adjacent dudes into giving him 50 bucks a month while also increasing their inceldom.
Letting him be on the platform is how he advertises his scam program.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 3:17:59 PM
#28:


Do you guys find no value in the conversation and theorizing past banning him tho?

People seem to completely overlook the fact that these youtubers expose that it's not him uploading his videos. There's no satisfaction in using a technique to attempt to take down a person that has already planned around it. It's basically celebrating being one step behind him.

I definitely don't think I have it all figured out. How to deal with someone like Andrew Tate. Not even close. I more so just been observing what doesn't work over the years. And my theory is people are wasting their energy getting mad at people for calling out that something isn't gonna work.

Time will tell.

A good question is, what's next? We banned him. Now what? We pat ourselves on the back and let him continue his methods around this? Lets take what we learned from Trump building a cult and try to figure out where the weakpoints were on our end in stopping him. Andrew Tate is smarter than Trump

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ThePopcornKing
08/23/22 3:21:05 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
In his defense I've seen Andrew tates vids long before he blew up and he actually has some good takes.

Like

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Naysaspace
08/23/22 3:22:50 PM
#30:


Most andrew tate haters have watched exactly 0 seconds of his content. Cancel culture run amok. Yeah he said some lousy stuff but they make him out to be literal hitler.
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WingsOfGood
08/23/22 3:23:36 PM
#31:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Do you guys find no value in the conversation and theorizing past banning him tho?

He had a conversation on twitch with Hasan and Xqc.

That isn't why he is banned.

Turns out there is evidence he beats women as it was recorded with a woman crying.

His response?
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ThePopcornKing
08/23/22 3:24:15 PM
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Cancel culture gone MAD claims naysaspacs as he defends enslaving women and saying women deserve to be raped

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PiOverlord
08/23/22 3:24:48 PM
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Antifar posted...
Whotubers is more like it.

Because who are they?


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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 3:24:51 PM
#34:


ThePopcornKing posted...
Like

Even if he did. It's so dumb to give someone credit for landing on a mark 2% of the time when 98% of the time is visceral hate motivating speech. Obviously if you talk enough you're gonna make sense once in awhile. Sometimes I get in my own points just by talking long enough that something of substance eventually had to be in it lol

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FigureOfSpeech
08/23/22 3:26:03 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Ban these people too.


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iwasapoetonce
08/23/22 3:27:16 PM
#36:


didn't read most the posts in this topic,

but i feel like this guy just came out of nowhere the past few weeks.

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WingsOfGood
08/23/22 3:31:35 PM
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iwasapoetonce posted...
didn't read most the posts in this topic,

but i feel like this guy just came out of nowhere the past few weeks.


Aiden Ross promoted him and got Xqc and Hasan to collab on it except they thought of just having discourse as Lost all senses suggest.

And that was it. Until the internet revealed he has actually run from the law for rape accussations and been filmed to beat women and admitted it saying they liked it.

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ViewtifulJoe
08/23/22 3:32:28 PM
#38:


If you're going to watch this crap don't forget to watch the ads and leave a comment that the creator won't read.

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Fony
08/23/22 3:35:49 PM
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And the promotion contunues.

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Donomark
08/23/22 3:46:42 PM
#40:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Do you guys find no value in the conversation and theorizing past banning him tho?

People seem to completely overlook the fact that these youtubers expose that it's not him uploading his videos. There's no satisfaction in using a technique to attempt to take down a person that has already planned around it. It's basically celebrating being one step behind him.

I definitely don't think I have it all figured out. How to deal with someone like Andrew Tate. Not even close. I more so just been observing what doesn't work over the years. And my theory is people are wasting their energy getting mad at people for calling out that something isn't gonna work.

Time will tell.

A good question is, what's next? We banned him. Now what? We pat ourselves on the back and let him continue his methods around this? Lets take what we learned from Trump building a cult and try to figure out where the weakpoints were on our end in stopping him. Andrew Tate is smarter than Trump
...I don't think anyone is saying, "He's banned. We did it. We solved misogyny!"

These platforms are not the police. They're not the community. All they can do is ban. They did their part. I mean, are you suggesting that the better thing to do is keep him on the platform?

I mean, I get it. Like, what's the next step? Maybe that's what Aba and Preach and whoever else can figure out, instead of complaining that something a ban cannot accomplish will not be accomplished.


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Fony
08/23/22 4:14:34 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Do you guys find no value in the conversation and theorizing past banning him tho?

People seem to completely overlook the fact that these youtubers expose that it's not him uploading his videos. There's no satisfaction in using a technique to attempt to take down a person that has already planned around it. It's basically celebrating being one step behind him.

I definitely don't think I have it all figured out. How to deal with someone like Andrew Tate. Not even close. I more so just been observing what doesn't work over the years. And my theory is people are wasting their energy getting mad at people for calling out that something isn't gonna work.

Time will tell.

A good question is, what's next? We banned him. Now what? We pat ourselves on the back and let him continue his methods around this? Lets take what we learned from Trump building a cult and try to figure out where the weakpoints were on our end in stopping him. Andrew Tate is smarter than Trump

Well the only thing people can really do is to stop his spread, but everyone is doing the opposite. He cannot be "canceled" in the way that some guy who can actually lose his job can be. He isn't even subject to any western laws whatsoever.

The people complaining about him, making fun of him, etc should actually do something tangible, productive and clearly demonstrating his stupidity to those "young impressionable boys and young men" they fear he is going to influence. They already have millions of viewers and a larger platform than Tate. Just provide an alternative to those who clearly need direction, and stop marketing him for free. Oh, he's banned off of platforms where he didn't even have an account....gee.

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COVxy
08/23/22 4:16:35 PM
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Anyone pushing the "market place of ideas" is either a bad actor or a moron who hasn't paid attention to the past decade.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 4:56:36 PM
#43:


Fony posted...
Well the only thing people can really do is to stop his spread, but everyone is doing the opposite. He cannot be "canceled" in the way that some guy who can actually lose his job can be. He isn't even subject to any western laws whatsoever.

The people complaining about him, making fun of him, etc should actually do something tangible, productive and clearly demonstrating his stupidity to those "young impressionable boys and young men" they fear he is going to influence. They already have millions of viewers and a larger platform than Tate. Just provide an alternative to those who clearly need direction, and stop marketing him for free. Oh, he's banned off of platforms where he didn't even have an account....gee.

That's what the people like Aba and Preach are doing. They're not getting angry and alienating people who follow him like they're all unsalvageable idiots, pushing them deeper into the idea that's he's right because everyone against him feels just as extreme as him to them but against them instead of with them. It just makes Tate look like the helping hand even more. Another video hitting buzzwords against Tate to immediately satisfy their fanbase isn't helping. That's just the same strategy as Tate, just not with damaging or malicious intent. But the ehole point is his fanbase can't see the difference, so they all come out looking like hypocrites. They see a bunch of people who seem just as hostile as him towards him but also hypocritical vs. Him fully going into being a piece of shit and seeming more real by comparison cause he knows what he is.

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BlueTigerLion
08/24/22 9:27:03 AM
#44:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
The point of the videos I seen are less defending Andrew Tate and more so saying that banning him from social media accounts isn't gonna get rid of him. It's just they're not blindly jumping on the trend of banning him and pretending we won. If you call that defending him, you just prove that you don't understand the nuance that people like Aba and Preach covers. Granted, I don't agree with everything they say. Cause just like you did to them, you'll be super ready to take every word they say as coming out of my mouth too as soon as I don't write off everything they say. This tactic is so god damn old and dusty.

I don't know the other 2 videos. But why watch them when I already see what you're trying to falsely imply about the first.

Edit: I don't think it's a "tactic" actually. It's just ignorance and the lack of caring who you throw under a bus with zero actual insight. So, it's not as smart as someone with tactics.

Aba and Preach actually reacted to what your issue with my title/OP was lol. Because another Youtuber thought what I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-0qmRJKHg

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Background_Guy
08/24/22 9:29:27 AM
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I don't know what the first channel is is but 2 and 3 are both known dumbasses
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Lost_All_Senses
08/24/22 12:38:23 PM
#46:


BlueTigerLion posted...
Aba and Preach actually reacted to what your issue with my title/OP was lol. Because another Youtuber thought what I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-0qmRJKHg

Yeah. I actually just got done watching this lol. They're usually at the front of my algorithm, cause I got in the habit of throwing their video on while I make coffee.

I been watching them for over a year. If someone wants youtubers to pick a side and ride to death for it, they're not for them. I get shit for not immediately taking sides here. So, it's obvious what makes me connect with them lol

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Bad_Mojo
08/24/22 12:39:17 PM
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Starting? I've seen a lot of people defend him since all this talk about him as started.

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wanderingshade
08/24/22 12:41:37 PM
#48:


Manosphere red-pill shit refuses to die, more news at 11.

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bobbaaay
08/24/22 1:29:00 PM
#49:


COVxy posted...
Anyone pushing the "market place of ideas" is either a bad actor or a moron who hasn't paid attention to the past decade.

SmArT GuY HERe.
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