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MrAndersonWb
08/17/22 12:02:13 PM
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Women are now expected to carry the pregnancy of a headless baby to term because, pro life :

https://www.wafb.com/2022/08/15/mother-claims-she-was-denied-an-abortion-despite-babys-condition/

oh, carrying some odd pregnancies like that, where the baby will die anyway also risks rendering these women sterile, and therefore, not being able to carry life, therefore useless to the pro life folks.

this is cruel victimization of women
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Will_VIIII
08/17/22 12:03:13 PM
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Thanks Trump voters.

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COVxy
08/17/22 12:03:36 PM
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That shit's terrible, but the topic title is a bit ridiculous.

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Popcorn2000
08/17/22 12:05:09 PM
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COVxy posted...
That shit's terrible, but the topic title is a bit ridiculous.
No, its not.
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Rathinor
08/17/22 12:07:57 PM
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Red state hellholes living up to their reputation
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Questionmarktarius
08/17/22 12:08:53 PM
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A Baton Rouge mother has a week to make an unthinkable decision - carry her baby to term even though she says doctors tell her it will not survive or find another state where she can have an abortion.
How the hell does it take a week to make that decision?
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COVxy
08/17/22 12:08:58 PM
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Popcorn2000 posted...
No, its not.

Have you...watched or read anything that even references handmaid's tale?

I mean, shit's bleak in the US right now, and I will be the first one to tell you that. But the handmaid's tale is just way beyond the pale.

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MasterVading
08/17/22 12:12:19 PM
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It hasn't...yet.

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MrAndersonWb
08/17/22 12:17:57 PM
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COVxy posted...
That shit's terrible, but the topic title is a bit ridiculous.

might as well end the sentence with democrats are just as bad, do you remember when BLM was burning cities and can you pay for gas, because the Brandon gas prices made gas 14 a gallon, both sides guys
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Rathinor
08/17/22 12:19:11 PM
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MasterVading posted...
It hasn't...yet.
You're a Trump cultist, so you're happy with the changes. Eventually you might be able to finally be with a woman when the government provides you with one
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COVxy
08/17/22 12:25:23 PM
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MrAndersonWb posted...
might as well end the sentence with democrats are just as bad, do you remember when BLM was burning cities and can you pay for gas, because the Brandon gas prices made gas 14 a gallon, both sides guys

No, my issue with what you posted is the 99% of the time, the democrat and leftists stances reflect reality and are much more rational than republican stances. What happens when you exaggerate for effect like you have, however, is that you get a bunch of automatic dismissal because what you've said is clearly not true.

Just like, state things as they are. You are on the correct side here, so no need to overcompensate. Makes us all look bad.

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MrAndersonWb
08/17/22 12:27:24 PM
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COVxy posted...
No, my issue with what you posted is the 99% of the time, the democrat and leftists stances reflect reality and are much more rational than republican stances. What happens when you exaggerate for effect like you have, however, is that you get a bunch of automatic dismissal because what you've said is clearly not true.

Just like, state things as they are. You are on the correct side here, so no need to overcompensate. Makes us all look bad.

imagine the image, a woman forced to give birth to a headless baby. Then once the poor baby dies - remember, he had 1/4 of a head and no top of the skull, its a shocking sight and he/she must be in so much pain too - right after his/her last breath the woman is told that now she is sterile too.

this is some sick horror movie stuff. I dont think I am exaggerating

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Southernfatman
08/17/22 12:29:31 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
The handmaid's tale also had rebels actively assassinating their oppressors in order to try and topple the system. Is there any of that irl?

*Big sad sigh*. Better not say anything else or I'll get suspended or something.

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COVxy
08/17/22 12:29:31 PM
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MrAndersonWb posted...
imagine the image, a woman forced to give birth to a headless baby. Then once the poor baby dies - remember, he had 1/4 of a head and no top of the skull, its a shocking sight and he/she must be in so much pain too - right after his/her last breath the woman is told that now she is sterile too.

this is some sick horror movie stuff. I dont think I am exaggerating

In handmaids tale, child bearing women are sex slaves. They get forcably raped, repeatedly, untill they can no longer give birth, then when they are no longer fertile they get sent to irradiated fields to dig trenches. Women who oppose this order are hanged in front of everyone for all to see. This is propped up by a literal christofascist government, which has priests as government officials.

And you are saying the US has gotten worse than that?

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Rathinor
08/17/22 12:30:22 PM
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COVxy posted...
In handmaids tale, child bearing women are sex slaves. They get forcably raped, repeatedly, untill they can no longer give birth, then when they are no longer fertile they get sent to irradiated fields to dig trenches. This is propped up by a literal christofascist government, which has priests as government officials.

And you are saying the US has gotten worse than that?
This is a wet dream for Trump slurpers here
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MrAndersonWb
08/17/22 12:31:59 PM
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COVxy posted...
In handmaids tale, child bearing women are sex slaves. They get forcably raped, repeatedly, untill they can no longer give birth, then when they are no longer fertile they get sent to irradiated fields to dig trenches. Women who oppose this order are hanged in front of everyone for all to see. This is propped up by a literal christofascist government, which has priests as government officials.

And you are saying the US has gotten worse than that?

nevermind, were all good now, Im sure the victimization of women will stop right at where were at right now.

ok, Im checking out of this thought I had then. I can relax now. Thanks

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COVxy
08/17/22 12:34:10 PM
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MrAndersonWb posted...
nevermind, were all good now, Im sure the victimization of women will stop right at where were at right now.

ok, Im checking out of this thought I had then. I can relax now. Thanks

I'm not suggesting it'll stop unless someone stops it, or that you shouldn't be worried.

Just that your topic title is blatantly ridiculous, and because of this does not seem to treat the situation seriously.

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NeoShadowhen
08/17/22 12:34:53 PM
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Its a weird situation because even Louisiana has a provision that abortion isnt unlawful if the unborn child is deemed to be medically futile.

Is the issue that there arent any abortion clinics anymore? I remember reading that the last ones were moving out of the state, but in circumstances like these it isnt unusual to just have the procedure done at a hospital. Maybe not in Louisiana, though.
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MedeaLysistrata
08/17/22 12:34:54 PM
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COVxy posted...
I'm not suggesting it'll stop unless someone stops it, or that you shouldn't be worried.

Just that your topic title is blatantly ridiculous, and because of this does not seem to treat the situation seriously.
It's called hyperbole. I can't believe this needs to be explain in this topic of all places.

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StarSpangled
08/20/22 7:33:26 AM
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Rathinor posted...
You're a Trump cultist, so you're happy with the changes. Eventually you might be able to finally be with a woman when the government provides you with one

I felt that a mile away

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hockeybub89
08/20/22 7:38:31 AM
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Exaggeration and fearmongering is good and we need to do more of it

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Lorenzo_2003
08/20/22 8:38:18 AM
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Headless baby?

Umm, you guys know what they do to babies during abortions, right? Like, seriously, you ever watch those videos?

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hockeybub89
08/20/22 8:41:07 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Headless baby?

Umm, you guys know what they do to babies during abortions, right? Like, seriously, you ever watch those videos?
What the fuck is your argument here? Abortion kills fetuses, so women should be forced to give birth to dead fetuses?

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Koishi
08/20/22 9:41:00 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Headless baby?

Umm, you guys know what they do to babies during abortions, right? Like, seriously, you ever watch those videos?
So? Abortion is a human right

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scar_the_1
08/20/22 9:46:56 AM
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COVxy posted...
In handmaids tale, child bearing women are sex slaves. They get forcably raped, repeatedly, untill they can no longer give birth, then when they are no longer fertile they get sent to irradiated fields to dig trenches. Women who oppose this order are hanged in front of everyone for all to see. This is propped up by a literal christofascist government, which has priests as government officials.

And you are saying the US has gotten worse than that?
This is not very far away from how adoption centers and surrogate agencies in the third world operate. Of course Handmaid's Tale is exaggerated for shock value. But it isn't far off from reality, with the exception that IRL it's outsourced to the third world. Ukraine for example is a quite popular place for surrogacy, since the women are white but conditions are poor enough that they do it to survive.

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hockeybub89
08/21/22 9:48:39 PM
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That literally doesn't make any fucking sense! Am I the crazy one?

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Lorenzo_2003
08/23/22 3:18:38 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Abortion kills fetuses, so women should be forced to give birth to dead fetuses?

No, not at all.

My point is that TC commented that its horrifying to carry a baby with that specific appearance to term, which I agree it is. But the methods for abortion are also horrific. If youve watched one after even just a few weeks, its visually disturbing because the physical appearance is distinct pretty early. TC drawing a line where they get upset at this, but not at that, is just odd. Regardless, I support Pro choice because they probably shouldnt be procreating anyway.

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Guide
08/23/22 3:21:09 AM
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MrAndersonWb posted...
nevermind, were all good now, Im sure the victimization of women will stop right at where were at right now.

ok, Im checking out of this thought I had then. I can relax now. Thanks

Borderline non sequitur response. Try comprehending, instead of just having emotional kneejerks.

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Zeeak4444
08/23/22 3:23:56 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
No, not at all.

My point is that TC commented that its horrifying to carry a baby with that specific appearance to term, which I agree it is. But the methods for abortion are also horrific. If youve watched one after even just a few weeks, its visually disturbing because the physical appearance is distinct pretty early. TC drawing a line where they get upset at this, but not at that, is just odd. Regardless, I support Pro choice because they probably shouldnt be procreating anyway.

is it common for someone to view the abortion as its happening or after? serious question because your whole argument falls apart when one has a choice to see it and the other is forced to see it.

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Lorenzo_2003
08/23/22 4:27:08 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
is it common for someone to view the abortion as its happening or after? serious question because your whole argument falls apart when one has a choice to see it and the other is forced to see it.

Common? I really dont know. I watched them as part of an older set of medical videos for sex ed class.

The choice to see point is irrelevant. Bad things happen, whether you want to see them or not. Although I suppose a woman going in for the procedure could pretend its not happening, as a way to cope.

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MrAndersonWb
08/23/22 9:25:30 AM
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Guide posted...
Borderline non sequitur response. Try comprehending, instead of just having emotional kneejerks.

borderline non sequitur response: no u
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Noumas
08/25/22 2:35:24 AM
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I was gonna make this very topic about how I used to think handmaid's tale was such a dumb show and I couldn't watch it because of the ridiculous premise.

But now... now it's not so ridiculous. That upsets me even more with the state of things now
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MrAndersonWb
08/25/22 9:28:01 AM
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Noumas posted...
I was gonna make this very topic about how I used to think handmaid's tale was such a dumb show and I couldn't watch it because of the ridiculous premise.

But now... now it's not so ridiculous. That upsets me even more with the state of things now

it hits too close to home now.

in the pro-life conservative paradise that the conservatives are achieving, women will routinely birth headless babies, end sterile because of the lack of medical attention (eg ectopic or septic pregnancy) or old fashioned die, all while men get wrongful death penalties due to the good old boy picnic called justice system.

oh, the republicans utopia

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