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Arcanine2009
08/07/22 10:46:56 PM
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Assuming they got the top 7 from the last two Avengers movies with the powers they showed.


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Verdekal
08/07/22 10:52:56 PM
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Moss from No Country?

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pegusus123456
08/07/22 11:03:31 PM
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100% yes. Thanos had trouble with Captain Marvel. Superman and Wonder Woman are both at her power level, if not higher. Flash can have the Gauntlet hidden on the other side of the world and be back before he's missed. Cyborg might be able to do some hoodoo hacker shit to shut down Thanos' ship. Batman's a better strategist than anyone we see in the Avengers. Green Lantern could shield them from ranged firepower and body large swathes of Chitauri with big light hammers. Aquaman would do his best.

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Tyranthraxus
08/07/22 11:04:05 PM
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Superman solos

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Kim_Seong-a
08/07/22 11:05:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted... Superman solos



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ClockworkHare
08/07/22 11:05:14 PM
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Justice League has more broken deus ex machinas they can call in, so yes.

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PoundGarden
08/07/22 11:05:25 PM
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If we're talking comic Thanos, LMFAO no. Even without the gauntlet.
MCU Thanos with the nerfed Infinity gems? Maybe, really depends on if cinematic Supes is vulnerable to magic and if the MCU gems are magical in nature

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Kloe_Rinz
08/07/22 11:11:13 PM
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Justice League has some straight broken superheroes. Wonder Woman, superman, the flash all solo. Dunno who else is on the justice league since I didnt watch those shit movies past the first and I forgot
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Garioshi
08/07/22 11:17:05 PM
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It is inconceivable how much more broken the Justice League is compared to the Avengers, especially the MCU Avengers.

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HornyLevel
08/07/22 11:39:47 PM
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Comics? Thanos wins.

Movies? Probably only Thanos with 0-1 stones. Otherwise he's gonna stomp them.

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Zikten
08/07/22 11:42:45 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Justice League has some straight broken superheroes. Wonder Woman, superman, the flash all solo. Dunno who else is on the justice league since I didnt watch those shit movies past the first and I forgot

in the comics, last I looked the members are

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Aquaman
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Cyborg

That was the lineup during New 52 which ran from 2011 to im not sure when
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chukklez17dc
08/07/22 11:45:30 PM
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Why does comics Thanos win? How much more powerful is he?

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BipBapBam
08/07/22 11:47:02 PM
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If it's the movie versions, Superman casually solos. I don't even think Thanos could react to his speed. The MCU has a severe lack of speedsters, even their version of Quicksilver sucked balls.

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Timmyjinkle
08/07/22 11:48:02 PM
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Flash goes back in time, like 100 thousand years, and takes Superman with him, who goes into the sun to rest, so that he can become SUPERMAN PRIME, who has no weaknesses at all and can solo like everyone in all the DC universes except The Writer.

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Kimberly
08/07/22 11:51:05 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Superman solos

100% Best hope for Thanos is breaking him mentally

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Arcanine2009
08/08/22 1:40:15 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Justice League has some straight broken superheroes. Wonder Woman, superman, the flash all solo. Dunno who else is on the justice league since I didnt watch those shit movies past the first and I forgot
Alright, but what about JL powers as shown from the current DC movies (as well as Hal Jordan's from a few years back)?

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KogaSteelfang
08/08/22 1:46:21 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
if the MCU gems are magical in nature
Loki tv series says they are.

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pegusus123456
08/08/22 1:49:07 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Alright, but what about JL powers as shown from the current DC movies (as well as Hal Jordan's from a few years back)?

Tyranthraxus posted...
Superman solos


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KaZooo
08/08/22 1:57:25 AM
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Batman prevents Thanos from being born.

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 1:59:39 AM
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chukklez17dc posted...
Why does comics Thanos win? How much more powerful is he?

Quite a bit physically, he also has access to all kinds of doomsday gadgets and serious weaponry.

As far as gems go, he literally could not be beaten. Every time he lost the gauntlet after acquiring it he basically subcinciously allowed himself to lose because he was bored and enjoys the acquisition of power more than the actual holding of power. First time he had it he sealed away the powers of all but 2 of the gems (power and reality iirc) for the final confrontation with the Marvel Universe. Dude casually murdered the FUCK out of them and laughed while he did it.

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g0ldie
08/08/22 1:59:59 AM
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just from the movies, outside of being tanks, Superman and Wonder Woman are also speedsters, plus WW has her lasso.

not saying she'd be needed is Superman took the lead, but with the two, the JL would have an overwhelming lead.

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:04:03 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Alright, but what about JL powers as shown from the current DC movies (as well as Hal Jordan's from a few years back)?
Just the movie versions...

Cyborg takes control of Thanos entire fleet and turns it against itself.

Flash can literally reverse time.

Movie Aquaman is probably equivalent to Professor Hulk.

Wonder Woman is basically Thor

Martian Manhunter is basically Ikarus

Superman is even stronger than that

Batman is Batman

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:07:47 AM
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g0ldie posted...
just from the movies, outside of being tanks, Superman and Wonder Woman are also speedsters, plus WW has her lasso.

not saying she'd be needed is Superman took the lead, but with the two, the JL would have an overwhelming lead.

Thanos could use the time stone to slow the JL to a crawl/halt (he can even have a "time bubble" around him to immediately stop any attack that enters a certain radius) then dismantle them at his leisure.
Reality gem he could turn them into stone or ducks or whatever, could also have a "reality warping bubble" around him to auto counter any incoming threat.
Etc etc. The movies did a terrible job of showcasing just how powerful the gems should be and how they can be utilized besides right in the moment.
You're talking about raw power/speed (Superman/Flash) versus the literal physical embodiment/manifestation/source of power/speed itself (power/time stones)

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:12:19 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Thanos could use the time stone to slow the JL to a crawl/halt (he can even have a "time bubble" around him to immediately stop any attack that enters a certain radius) then dismantle them at his leisure.
Reality gem he could turn them into stone or ducks or whatever, could also have a "reality warping bubble" around him to auto counter any incoming threat.
Etc etc. The movies did a terrible job of showcasing just how powerful the gems should be and how they can be utilized besides right in the moment.
You're talking about raw power/speed (Superman/Flash) versus the literal physical embodiment/manifestation/source of power/speed itself (power/time stones)

Flash can literally reverse time, in the movies

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g0ldie
08/08/22 2:12:46 AM
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based on the movies, it seemed like his use of the stones were based on conscious thought rather than instantaneous use.

so idk how he'd use the stones on either of the two if they moved faster than he can react.

I dunno how it's like in the comics, though.

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Srk700
08/08/22 2:13:16 AM
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What about Darkseid at his strongest vs Thanos at his strongest?
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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:14:56 AM
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g0ldie posted...
based on the movies, it seemed like his use of the stones were based on conscious thought rather than instantaneous use.

so idk how he'd use the stones on either of the two if they moved faster than he can react.

I dunno how it's like in the comics, though.

Stones in the comics are way stronger. Thanos voluntary disabled like 3 of them and calculated the entire marvel universe put together still only had like a 0.03 chance of defeating him.

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:16:04 AM
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Srk700 posted...
What about Darkseid at his strongest vs Thanos at his strongest?

Omega stomps it's not even a contest. You would need something like The Beyonder to even have a chance.

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WingsOfGood
08/08/22 2:16:21 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Flash can literally reverse time, in the movies

I mean so could strange.

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:17:25 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
I mean so could strange.

Thanos I come to bargain.
He could but didn't. Thanos even commented that Strange never used the stone for the whole fight. When he did it against Dormammu there was nothing Dormammu could do.

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:18:01 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Flash can literally reverse time, in the movies

Granted this is speculation on my part, but in theory the Time stone should be able to negate Flash or any speedsters ability to move or manipulate time/speed. Just turn it off or simply be unaffected. Again you're talking about someone who can manipulate time versus the embodiment/manifestation of time itself.

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g0ldie
08/08/22 2:18:27 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Stones in the comics are way stronger. Thanos voluntary disabled like 3 of them and calculated the entire marvel universe put together still only had like a 0.03 chance of defeating him.
thanks.

that .03% probably accounted for the off chance a multiversal Superman might step in.

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WingsOfGood
08/08/22 2:19:04 AM
#33:


Tyranthraxus posted...
He could but didn't. Thanos even commented that Strange never used the stone for the whole fight. When he did it against Dormammu there was nothing Dormammu could do.

And that is the point.

All the MCU is actually stronger than their showing. It doesn't make a good movie.

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:19:37 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Granted this is speculation on my part, but in theory the Time stone should be able to negate Flash or any speedsters ability to move or manipulate time/speed. Just turn it off or simply be unaffected. Again you're talking about someone who can manipulate time versus the embodiment/manifestation of time itself.

Speed force is technically a different dimension. Thanos wouldn't be able to disable it. If he attempted to try to keep up with Flash what would end up happening is Thanos would get destroyed by the speed force.

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:20:27 AM
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g0ldie posted...
based on the movies, it seemed like his use of the stones were based on conscious thought rather than instantaneous use.

so idk how he'd use the stones on either of the two if they moved faster than he can react.

I dunno how it's like in the comics, though.

Basically he has omnipotence, you cannot move faster than or sneak up on God. Cosmic spider-sense lol

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:21:44 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Basically he has omnipotence, you cannot move faster than or sneak up on God. Cosmic spider-sense lol
They actually did though. Silver Surfer got a sneak attack in but Thanos was able to overpower him.

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:24:40 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Speed force is technically a different dimension. Thanos wouldn't be able to disable it. If he attempted to try to keep up with Flash what would end up happening is Thanos would get destroyed by the speed force.

Fair, but we're both assuming those rules apply to both then and it comes down to who's universe the fight happens in. For fairness if they met in a seperate universe I feel like their powers cancel each other out or are the difference in power is negligible. Thanos still has 5 stones to use on a normal dude in a red suit and still womps the others

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g0ldie
08/08/22 2:25:20 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Basically he has omnipotence, you cannot move faster than or sneak up on God. Cosmic spider-sense lol
that is super OP, tbh.

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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:26:50 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They actually did though. Silver Surfer got a sneak attack in but Thanos was able to overpower him.

If you're talking about the original IG series, SS missed his mark. The plan was to zip in and snatch the gauntlet while he was distracted and it didn't work. Thanos then finished everyone off immediately after like it was nothing

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:27:33 AM
#40:


PoundGarden posted...
Fair, but we're both assuming those rules apply to both then and it comes down to who's universe the fight happens in. For fairness if they met in a seperate universe I feel like their powers cancel each other out or are the difference in power is negligible. Thanos still has 5 stones to use on a normal dude in a red suit and still womps the others

I mean if Thanos already has all 6 stones he wins via snap so it's an irrelevant point. I figured this question was about dropping the justice League into the Infinity War movie and not just for the last 30 seconds.

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WingsOfGood
08/08/22 2:28:07 AM
#41:


Tyranthraxus posted...
They actually did though. Silver Surfer got a sneak attack in but Thanos was able to overpower him.


I would assume power cosmic hacks, not speed.
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PoundGarden
08/08/22 2:28:26 AM
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g0ldie posted...
that is super OP, tbh.

Absolutely, but Thanos put in some work and many years to get there so I'm OK with that. The JL were all born with or gifted their powers.

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WingsOfGood
08/08/22 2:33:17 AM
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Ah here is the panel

And apparently it was part of a plan to fail

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/22 2:36:12 AM
#44:


WingsOfGood posted...
Ah here is the panel

And apparently it was part of a plan to fail

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/0/AAefUOAADinw.jpg

I feel like Adam Warlock genuinely wanted the plan to succeed but that he knew even if it did fall that Thanos would throw the fight intentionally.

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WingsOfGood
08/08/22 2:43:09 AM
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In any case surfer is prob faster than flash barring time travel.

He can bend space and warp travel.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/5/AAefUOAADin1.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/6/AAefUOAADin2.jpg

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g0ldie
08/08/22 2:50:12 AM
#46:


PoundGarden posted...
Absolutely, but Thanos put in some work and many years to get there so I'm OK with that. The JL were all born with or gifted their powers.
I wasn't criticizing, I was just acknowledging that it was really impressive.

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RISEofCHRISTIAN
08/08/22 3:10:07 AM
#47:


Batman solos Thanos. He'd have some anti Thanos Infinity gauntlet gadget in his belt.

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Arcanine2009
08/09/22 1:14:46 PM
#48:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Just the movie versions...

Cyborg takes control of Thanos entire fleet and turns it against itself.

Flash can literally reverse time.

Movie Aquaman is probably equivalent to Professor Hulk.

Wonder Woman is basically Thor

Martian Manhunter is basically Ikarus

Superman is even stronger than that

Batman is Batman
you could have compared marrian manhunter to vision

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