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TULPAMANCER
08/07/22 9:58:15 PM
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When Vader informed Lando that Leia and Chewbacca must never be allowed to leave Bespin, Lando responds angrily "That was never a condition of our agreement nor was giving Han to this bounty hunter!"

Vader, in a calm yet threatening tone, then asks Lando "Perhaps you feel you are being treated unfairly?" which of course Lando wisely answers with "No."

Now, one would obviously think the veiled threat was Vader's way of reminding Lando that he could end him in seconds, yet Vader's "explanation" for the threat is: "Good! It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here."

So Vader wasn't even threatening Lando's life directly. In ESB, Vader kills on a whim even more than usual. Why was Lando able to backtalk Vader and only get a "Hey, I'll leave some troops here if you keep it up" response?
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FortuneCookie
08/07/22 10:05:21 PM
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He probably felt a small measure of obligation to Lando since Lando did bring in the prisoners he wanted.
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HBOSS
08/07/22 10:06:14 PM
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Vader sent mercenaries to find out who destroyed the deathstar. Boba Fett found out the pilots name shortly after epIV.

On Bespin, he had luke on his mind throughout the entire event there. Maybe to Vader confronting was Luke #1 priority, the others not so much. The whole thing at bespin was to bring luke there afterall...

Empire is also tryna keep a front that theyre the good guys. Vader cant be a walking deathbringer everywhere he goes. He was tasked for the rebels and not other imperial affairs

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WingsOfGood
08/07/22 10:07:35 PM
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Wouldn't killing Lando cause political issues with Cloud City?
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Foppe
08/07/22 10:10:17 PM
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Because he knew that killing Lando would turn everybody in Bespin against him.
While he personally could handle it, it was more important to capture Skywalker. Starting a war with Bespin would complicate that.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/07/22 10:21:22 PM
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Foppe posted...
Because he knew that killing Lando would turn everybody in Bespin against him.
While he personally could handle it, it was more important to capture Skywalker. Starting a war with Bespin would complicate that.
This, killing the administrator would piss a whole bunch of people off and Vader knows that. His main concern was his son and testing his abilities, cant do that if the whole city will come down on him plus anyone else on the planet.

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Robot2600
08/07/22 10:22:24 PM
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he thought lando was his dude

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iPhone_7
08/07/22 10:22:57 PM
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The Empire blew up an entire godamn planet that was rich & populated. And yall talking about not wanting to upset the denizens of a city. The Empire already garrisoned the city, they could have done it even more.

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BipBapBam
08/07/22 10:23:27 PM
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Lando was too fashionable to strike down

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/07/22 10:25:16 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
The Empire blew up an entire godamn planet that was rich & populated. And yall talking about not wanting to upset the denizens of a city. The Empire already garrisoned the city, they could have done it even more.
Not at that moment since Luke was on his way there and I highly doubt Vader wants to kill his son, and they did not have a working death star in TESB.

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TULPAMANCER
08/07/22 10:26:44 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Not at that moment since Luke was on his way there and I highly doubt Vader wants to kill his son, and they did not have a working death star in TESB.

I think their point is that it seems odd for Vader (re: the Empire) to be concerned about a revolt on a lone city when they had no qualms about destroying an entire planet. With Alderaan being destroyed, the Empire gave up any right to having a "good guy" facade.
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WingsOfGood
08/07/22 10:29:20 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
The Empire blew up an entire godamn planet that was rich & populated. And yall talking about not wanting to upset the denizens of a city. The Empire already garrisoned the city, they could have done it even more.

their planet canon got destroyed though

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Jiek_Fafn
08/07/22 10:30:06 PM
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He was the only other black guy in the entire galaxy

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HornyLevel
08/07/22 10:32:04 PM
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Because it pisses Palpatine off when Vader gets emotional, and doubly so when it interferes with political agreements and whatnot. Can't really accomplish goals and get the galaxy to fall in line if they just make agreements and then kill them for talking back.

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Irony
08/07/22 10:32:44 PM
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It was a friendly gesture from one black guy to another

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Billyionaire
08/07/22 10:34:16 PM
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You've got to buy the novelizations to find out

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Compsognathus
08/07/22 10:35:23 PM
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Vader is quick to punish failures but doesn't kill just for the sake of it. Lando, at least at that time, had held up his end of his bargain. He didn't fail Vader.

And the Empire can't be seen to be breaking all their deals. Compliance is, if not rewarded, at least not punished.

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NeonOctopus
08/07/22 10:35:34 PM
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I feel like killed Lando would cause too much political instability, that's why

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Heartomaton
08/07/22 10:36:22 PM
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Irony posted...
It was a friendly gesture from one black guy to another

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ButteryMales
08/07/22 10:36:39 PM
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https://youtu.be/WpE_xMRiCLE
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Lonestar2000
08/07/22 10:43:55 PM
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The Empire needed Tibanna gas.

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Foppe
08/08/22 2:26:25 AM
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TULPAMANCER posted...
I think their point is that it seems odd for Vader (re: the Empire) to be concerned about a revolt on a lone city when they had no qualms about destroying an entire planet. With Alderaan being destroyed, the Empire gave up any right to having a "good guy" facade.
Their target was a high value person that they need to trick into a specific room so they can freeze him and bring him to the Emperor himself.
Starting a war in the only location where you know where he will soon be, which happen to allow you to freeze him down, is extremely stupid. You will lose your moment of surprise, it will be harder to get him into the freezing room and you might even scare away the target.
Lando was a good pawn that did everything the Empire asked for. Yes, he question the change of plans, but he also accepted the chances and continued to be a good pawn.
From Vaders point of view, killing a good pawn would only jeopardize his mission.

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008Zulu
08/08/22 3:35:07 AM
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But once the denizens of Cloud City found out the Empire had seized the city they didn't start blastin, they grabbed their bags on got the hell out of there. Killing Lando wouldn't have changed that.

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Foppe
08/08/22 4:04:34 AM
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008Zulu posted...
But once the denizens of Cloud City found out the Empire had seized the city they didn't start blastin, they grabbed their bags on got the hell out of there. Killing Lando wouldn't have changed that.
They left because Lando told them to leave.

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Priere
08/08/22 4:15:11 AM
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He didnt want to be cancelled for killing the one black guy in the galaxy during the time of the OT

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Xethuminra
08/08/22 4:27:34 AM
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There's any number of reasons that could cause this.

Cloud City might be profitable to the Empire, and benefits from no Imperial presence if Lando is cutting them in on the profits. Vader was also largely there to bait his son, and might have been extending his good will as part of that scheme. Another thing is that Vader indicated he wanted to overthrow the Emperor, and might have been playing king in that moment. Lastly, it could have something to do with Leia on a subconscious level, or he saw a benefit in keeping her & Lando there. In theory, Leia could lead him to the rebellion if he leaves her "alone".
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Aressar
08/08/22 4:37:02 AM
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Bespin wasn't part of the Galactic Empire or the Rebel Alliance. Technically they were an independent neutral faction that traded tibanna gas, but small enough that once the Empire had reason to go there, the Empire could barge in and tell them what's what.

Considering that, Vader was actually being pretty douchey to Lando, but that kinda explains why the Empire didn't come in guns blazing, and why Lando initially cooperated, hoping the Empire would just leave them alone afterward.

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Xethuminra
08/08/22 4:38:26 AM
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Or, D

He was simply lying

Also, If Luke didn't show up, maybe Vader hoped Leia would serve as a link to finding Luke.
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Sega_System
08/08/22 5:02:44 AM
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Lando has Charisma +10

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008Zulu
08/08/22 5:04:13 AM
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Foppe posted...
They left because Lando told them to leave.
Once they realised what had happened, you think they wouldn't have left on their own?

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Sayoria
08/08/22 5:12:23 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3XTHVC1Nf0

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Foppe
08/08/22 5:50:25 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Once they realised what had happened, you think they wouldn't have left on their own?
What we saw was an organized retreat.
With Lando dead, it would be more rumors spreading, more chaos and people wanting to revenge Lando.

That said, an organised evacuation raises at least as much suspection as a big fight, if not more. They dont want to scare away their high value target.

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