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Blue_Inigo
08/05/22 1:10:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1555589447239970817?s=20&t=mB4tX_0lW8qsRxSwXUeIAw

So they sold CD because they're ran by legit morons

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Solar_Crimson
08/05/22 1:12:36 PM
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Square-Enixenophobes

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LightHawKnight
08/05/22 1:12:46 PM
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Is that why they are ruining the next Dragon Quest game?

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Octans
08/05/22 1:13:41 PM
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What does that even mean?

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Relient_K
08/05/22 1:13:49 PM
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I think the real issue is their projections for everything not FF14 are way too unrealistic so they're always disappointed by sales. They think they deserve sales because of their history but too much of what they put out is garbage lately.

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Questionmarktarius
08/05/22 1:14:47 PM
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Reminder that some Tomb Raider game needed to sell six million copies just to break even.

It's easy to see why the shift to whale-bait mobile moneyholes happened. Budgets got out of hand, mostly just to appease the tiny of handful of frame-counting pedantics on youtube/twitter/etc.

Meanwhile, some grossly underpowered Nintendo thing is waltzing away with the current console generation.
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Prestoff
08/05/22 1:21:01 PM
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Relient_K posted...
I think the real issue is they're projections for everything not FF14 are way too unrealistic so they're always disappointed by sales. They think they deserve sales because of their history but too much of what they put out is garbage lately.

Netflix did the exact same shit with Stranger Things. When that show caused Netflix to get a shit ton of subscribers, any original Netflix show that couldn't even reach that matrix got immediately axed hence why you saw at one point a tons of shows getting cancelled left and right. The only Netflix show that beated Stranger Things in concurrent viewership was Squid Games but unfortunately that show didn't move subscriber counts by much.

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Sir_Will
08/05/22 1:21:42 PM
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SE needs new management, stat.

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Questionmarktarius
08/05/22 1:22:29 PM
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Sir_Will posted...
SE needs new management, stat.
Probably end up being Sony management, fairly soon.
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brotrrwinner
08/05/22 2:00:44 PM
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"we need to sell part of our company because it's stealing profits from the other part of the company"

wat

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DeadBankerDream
08/05/22 2:02:16 PM
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But... then won't people keep buying games from the sold companies, but this time Square sees none of that profit?

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bsp77
08/05/22 2:02:51 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
But... then won't people keep buying games from the sold companies, but this time Square sees none of that profit?
Exactly. What a bunch of morons.

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Hop103
08/05/22 2:06:35 PM
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SE is mismanaged and censor happy like Sony (actually worse than Sony, since they have insane manga censorship now), they better not censor Dragon Quest XII or they might end up going out of business.

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GiftedACIII
08/05/22 2:06:58 PM
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And the rumor is that Sony wants this?

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Solar_Crimson
08/05/22 2:07:16 PM
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brotrrwinner posted...
"we need to sell part of our company because it's stealing profits from the other part of the company"

wat
Japanese company prioritizing the sale of its Japanese products over its Western products.

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Relient_K
08/05/22 2:09:38 PM
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Hop103 posted...
SE is mismanaged and censor happy like Sony (actually worse than Sony, since they have insane manga censorship now), they better not censor Dragon Quest XII or they might end up going out of business.

What would they censor? DQ is pretty much always E-10 at worst. Outfits aren't very revealing with maybe a slight exception for Jessica. Violence is pretty cartoony, stories arent extremely dark, there's no bad language... It's basically what I'd expect if Nintendo made a standard turn based jrpg.


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AsucaHayashi
08/05/22 2:20:23 PM
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i was so confused what CD was but was then reminded of crystal dynamics

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GiftedACIII
08/05/22 2:30:51 PM
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Anyway I've seen people guessing the statement was mistranslated and that what they actually mean was that those studios cost too much with little return hence how they are capitalizing the rest of the company by taking resources away.

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KFHEWUI
08/05/22 2:33:13 PM
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This is the same SE that thinks NFT, Games as a service, and blockchain are the future of gaming.

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Robot2600
08/05/22 2:39:14 PM
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get fucked sqeenix

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DarkRoast
08/05/22 2:44:00 PM
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SE is a company plagued by Yes-Man culture. The co-director literally said that the only reason FF7 Remake actually came out is because he was willing to tell Tetsuya Nomura "No."

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DeadBankerDream
08/05/22 2:45:32 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
SE is a company plagued by Yes-Man culture. The co-director literally said that the only reason FF7 Remake actually came out is because he was willing to tell Tetsuya Nomura "No."
Got a link to that? Must read.

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Axiom
08/05/22 2:46:00 PM
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It's more that JRPGs are just stagnant while western studios and indie developers continue to evolve and push out better games
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Questionmarktarius
08/05/22 2:50:47 PM
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Axiom posted...
JRPGs are just stagnant
If DQ12 goes "action", I'm not fucking touching it.
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31Veteran
08/05/22 2:54:49 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If DQ12 goes "action", I'm not fucking touching it.
Agreed. I'm fine with them just having spinoffs like builders and heroes for people who want action in a Dragon Quest game. Some of us like turn based epic RPGs.

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PowerOats
08/05/22 2:57:35 PM
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Squeenix is trying to pull a Sega
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Sir_Will
08/05/22 3:03:50 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
SE is a company plagued by Yes-Man culture. The co-director literally said that the only reason FF7 Remake actually came out is because he was willing to tell Tetsuya Nomura "No."
Wait, what?

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PokemonExpert44
08/05/22 3:04:21 PM
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SE being SE.


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LightHawKnight
08/05/22 3:07:15 PM
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31Veteran posted...
Agreed. I'm fine with them just having spinoffs like builders and heroes for people who want action in a Dragon Quest game. Some of us like turn based epic RPGs.

Really hate how companies think they need to make turn based rpgs action these days. Ruining DQ, ruining Trails. At least the Yakuza devs exist.

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Robot2600
08/05/22 6:28:54 PM
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i also hate how now ALL the monsters are visible in every fucking rpg. random encounters, pls.

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hockeybub89
08/05/22 6:32:53 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
random encounters, pls
Yikes.

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31Veteran
08/06/22 12:48:13 AM
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I don't mind that change actually. Somehow when a battle goes "surprise" it's more annoying to grind than if you see those little bastards wandering around, blissfully unaware you're about to charge up and smack them in the ass with the flat of your sword to start a battle. I gleefully pounce on guys I'd maybe be cussing out for ruining my stroll otherwise.

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