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Sufferedphoneix
07/07/22 11:18:35 AM
#51:


DespondentDeity posted...
Thats not my position tho lol. I dont care who anyone else dates or sleeps with. What I dont understand is the aversion to the label of bigotry when basing preferences on immutable characteristics.

Maybe I misunderstood. And that's fine but going for petty insults shows me you are a shit person. So again fuck off.

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AldousIsDead
07/07/22 11:22:31 AM
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what a maroon.

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Gooniebird
07/07/22 11:46:39 AM
#53:


Sufferedphoneix posted...
Maybe I misunderstood. And that's fine but going for petty insults shows me you are a shit person. So again fuck off.

Okay Ed Phoenix, can you please stop saying such hurtful things

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_HayleyWilliams
07/07/22 12:16:42 PM
#54:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Yes. Snowy is right. Legitimately more than one person expressed that it was transphobic that there were straight men who as a rule wouldn't date women who weren't assigned that sex at birth. So they came up with a sexuality using the same conventions as the people levying the transphobic accusation at them.
So something really stupid that essentially says that trans women are men?

Do we need a straight sexuality that describes being primarily attracted to big asses or blonde hair too? Maybe one for attraction to skinny girls since some dudes get triggered when someone on the Internet says fat is beautiful?

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Gooniebird
07/07/22 12:33:45 PM
#55:


The stereotype that gay people are dramatic is inaccurate AF

It's straight people in here acting as if people are going to lock them up for being straight

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MrToothHasYou
07/07/22 12:41:14 PM
#56:


KhlavicLanguage posted...
what should someone call themselves if they're cishet and only attracted people of the opposite sex who were assigned that sex at birth

inb4 "bigot" lol
Bigot really would be accurate, though, in this case. Or at least transphobic.

Allow me to explain:

I would never date a copthat is my preference. But I dont feel the need to try and make a sexuality out of that because not liking cops isnt a sexual orientation, because cop is not a gender.

There isnt a word for people who are straight but only attracted to blondes, because that isnt a sexual orientation, its a preference, because blonde isnt a gender.

A straight woman might have a preference for men with facial hair, but we dont make up a new word and call that a sexuality, because bearded is not a gender.

Some people only want to date someone who wants to have children some day, or even is able to have kids some day. But neither wanting kids or being able to have kids is not a gender, so that preference isnt a sexual orientation.

You can be straight (or gay, or bi, or pan, or pretty much any orientation for that matter) and have a preference for cisgender partners. But, as you can probably extrapolate by now, its just a preference, not a sexuality, because trans isnt a gender.

So, if you have a preference against dating trans people that is so strong you feel you need to make a whole sexuality out of it, to have a pride flag for it, to announce to the entire world at the top of your lungs that you are somehow biologically incapable of feeling attraction to trans people that means, to me, that youre just a transphobe.

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-BrokenSpiral-
07/07/22 12:41:57 PM
#57:


Umbreon posted...
That said trans women are women and pretending you can magically tell the difference between a cis woman and a trans women at a glance(Assuming fully transitioned) is....

Well lets just say I've yet to find a convincing argument.

Some? Not so much.

The vast majority? Easy af
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Master_Bass
07/07/22 12:48:28 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The super straights are not ok.

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FunkyCat
07/07/22 12:49:01 PM
#59:


Master_Bass posted...
The super straights are not ok.
Were they ever?

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Blue_Thunder
07/07/22 12:51:56 PM
#60:


MrToothHasYou posted...

Bigot really would be accurate, though, in this case. Or at least transphobic.

Allow me to explain:

I would never date a copthat is my preference. But I dont feel the need to try and make a sexuality out of that because not liking cops isnt a sexual orientation, because cop is not a gender.

There isnt a word for people who are straight but only attracted to blondes, because that isnt a sexual orientation, its a preference, because blonde isnt a gender.

A straight woman might have a preference for men with facial hair, but we dont make up a new word and call that a sexuality, because bearded is not a gender.

Some people only want to date someone who wants to have children some day, or even is able to have kids some day. But neither wanting kids or being able to have kids is not a gender, so that preference isnt a sexual orientation.

You can be straight (or gay, or bi, or pan, or pretty much any orientation for that matter) and have a preference for cisgender partners. But, as you can probably extrapolate by now, its just a preference, not a sexuality, because trans isnt a gender.

So, if you have a preference against dating trans people that is so strong you feel you need to make a whole sexuality out of it, to have a pride flag for it, to announce to the entire world at the top of your lungs that you are somehow biologically incapable of feeling attraction to trans people that means, to me, that youre just a transphobe.

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DespondentDeity
07/07/22 12:52:51 PM
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Also, the stereotype that trans people are trying to force straight people to sleep with them is just an extension of the all LGBTQIAP+ people are rapists lie thats being leaned back on to vilify us now. Its utterly confusing to think that a minority wants to have any kind of relationship with a person who is opposed to their existence.

Its just pointed out that you dont get to hold bigoted views and not be called a bigot, thats how categorization works. If a business refused to hire a trans person for being trans, youd say thats a transphobic stance backed by discriminatory practice, but you wouldnt find any trans person that was just dying to still work there! Same concept with relationships, except that type of discrimination isnt legally protected against, nor is it appropriate in any circumstance to legislate bodily autonomy, but it still deserves pointing out that its a transphobic stance, backed by discriminatory practice, for the benefit of getting a clear picture of the type of character a person has and the incongruence to how theyd rather be perceived (i.e. hold bigoted views but be perceived as a tolerant person).

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Ozarhok
07/07/22 12:53:13 PM
#62:


Super straight & proud

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Robot2600
07/07/22 12:53:45 PM
#63:


DespondentDeity posted...
Also, the stereotype that trans people are trying to force straight people to sleep with them is just an extension of the all LGBTQIAP+ people are rapists lie thats being leaned back on to vilify us now. Its utterly confusing to think that a minority wants to have any kind of relationship with a person who is opposed to their existence.

Its just pointed out that you dont get to hold bigoted views and not be called a bigot, thats how categorization works. If a business refused to hire a trans person for being trans, youd say thats a transphobic stance backed by discriminatory practice, but you wouldnt find any trans person that was just dying to still work there! Same concept with relationships, except that type of discrimination isnt legally protected against, nor is it appropriate in any circumstance to legislate bodily autonomy, but it still deserves pointing out that its a transphobic stance, backed by discriminatory practice, for the benefit of getting a clear picture of the type of character a person has and the incongruence to how theyd rather be perceived (i.e. hold bigoted views but be perceived as a tolerant person).


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VG_Study_Lounge
07/07/22 12:57:05 PM
#64:


Sufferedphoneix posted...
I think it's fair they have their own label. Super straight sounds dumb but on the surface it makes sense.


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dioxxys
07/07/22 1:55:57 PM
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I hope yall can one day accept that a lot of people arent attracted to transpeople and that okay. Its their preference and they arent somehow transphobic for it.
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AldousIsDead
07/07/22 2:42:37 PM
#68:


It's only gay if you want it to be.

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superman 2000
07/07/22 2:42:38 PM
#69:


KhlavicLanguage posted...
cisgender + heterosexual

just an easy portmanteau

no need to have a melty

Do people actually use these terms outside of the internet?

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superman 2000
07/07/22 2:43:10 PM
#70:


marthsheretoo posted...
I'm so fucking super straight, man.

I don't fart because it opens up my butt and I never want my butt open for any reason.

I don't masturbate because I can't stand the feeling of my hand touching a dick.

I don't have a job because the reward for working is little papers with a picture of a dude on it.

Holy shit this made me literally LOL

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RottingGoat
07/07/22 2:44:25 PM
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MattcheteGuy
07/07/22 3:00:59 PM
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I was saying friendo before it was a meme :(

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_HayleyWilliams
07/07/22 3:06:27 PM
#73:


superman 2000 posted...
Do people actually use these terms outside of the internet?
Do people lol and post memes outside of the Internet?

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Seaman_Prime
07/07/22 3:08:03 PM
#74:


Ive ascended to Ultra Instinctually Straight. Just try to hit me with that gay shit. No homo
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_HayleyWilliams
07/07/22 3:08:43 PM
#75:


dioxxys posted...
I hope yall can one day accept that a lot of people arent attracted to transpeople and that okay. Its their preference and they arent somehow transphobic for it.
And you're still just a straight person with preferences. People who are attracted to trans people are not lesser straight.

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Supernatural
07/07/22 3:11:02 PM
#76:


LMAO out of all the terms, super straight is the one that sounds cringe??

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MrToothHasYou
07/07/22 3:18:01 PM
#77:


dioxxys posted...
I hope yall can one day accept that a lot of people arent attracted to transpeople and that okay. Its their preference and they arent somehow transphobic for it.
People have all kinds of preferences, but not all preferences are neutral in terms of harm, and no preference or societal norm is above examination or critique. Preferences, beliefs, and attitudes do not spring full-formed from the forehead of Zeus. They are learned and grown through socialization and exposure.

If a white person has a preference to only date white people, it would be incorrect to say well thats just how some people are and thats okay. That preference should be examined and explored, because its probably rooted in racist attitudes, and because allowing those attitudes to exist unchallenged is ultimately harmful to nonwhite people.

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MabusIncarnate
07/07/22 3:23:17 PM
#79:


Guys I'm actually super cereal

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dioxxys
07/07/22 3:27:44 PM
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heterosexual
adjective
adjective: heterosexual
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.

I hate to underline the reality here but most straight people prefer cis people. If they have the same genitals as them, thats generally a turn-off. As well as theres certain sex-specific characteristics you just cant hide with enough hormones. I will admit some girls I looked at are indistinguishable when clothed (even nekkid), but everyone doesnt have that luck. And even then sexuality is partially a mental thing. How are you going to blame a dude for staying limp? He is just a bigot because he cant get an erection?
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averagejoel
07/07/22 3:34:10 PM
#81:


dioxxys posted...
I hate to underline the reality here but most straight people prefer cis people. If they have the same genitals as them, thats generally a turn-off.
why yes, people do frequently get defensive when the part they play in perpetuating society's deep-rooted transphobia is pointed out to them! how astute of you to point that out!

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averagejoel
07/07/22 3:34:44 PM
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dioxxys posted...
As well as theres certain sex-specific characteristics you just cant hide with enough hormones. I will admit some girls I looked at are indistinguishable when clothed, but everyone doesnt have that luck. And even then sexuality is partially a mental thing. How are you going to blame a dude for staying limp?
no one is blaming anyone for anything.

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gunplagirl
07/07/22 3:37:29 PM
#83:


dioxxys posted...
heterosexual
adjective
adjective: heterosexual
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.
Etymological fallacy and the rest of your post is bullshit excuses that are very crappy and subjective

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SSJPurple
07/07/22 3:38:17 PM
#84:


KhlavicLanguage posted...
what should someone call themselves if they're cishet and only attracted people of the opposite sex who were assigned that sex at birth

inb4 "bigot" lol

Only non-cis males are allowed to have sexual preferences.

Its cool if a chick refuses to date a guy for any trivial reason but if I dont want to date a woman with a literal penis Im Hitler or something

Shit doesnt make sense to me at all and Im generally pretty liberal/progressive lol

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iPhone_7
07/07/22 3:38:28 PM
#85:


If s*** like Vampgender & Faegender is valid then f*** it, people can go ahead and identify as super-straight or whatever

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Alteres
07/07/22 3:38:49 PM
#86:


Wait, I just read the last like 50 posts... are people really saying you have to like dick or you are a bigot?

I think I need to go play a game or something.

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DespondentDeity
07/07/22 3:42:42 PM
#87:


Alteres posted...
Wait, I just read the last like 50 posts... are people really saying you have to like dick or you are a bigot?

I think I need to go play a game or something.

Not all trans women have penises.

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Heartomaton
07/07/22 3:44:17 PM
#88:


If your confidence in your sexuality is so damned fragile that the idea that any random person might think for a second that you're different than you actually are is something you register as a legitimate fear, then I think you might have bigger problems than your chestbeating and shouts of "I'm super-dee-duper straight!" can solve, frankly.

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Flauros
07/07/22 3:45:34 PM
#89:


DespondentDeity posted...
Not all trans women have penises.
Isnt a neo vagina just a surgically altered penis?

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greyfox747
07/07/22 3:45:47 PM
#90:


Thanks for reawakening this discourse, TC. This has been fantastic. Really enjoyable topic to read through. Thank you.

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dioxxys
07/07/22 3:47:37 PM
#91:


Heartomaton posted...
If your confidence in your sexuality is so damned fragile that the idea that any random person might think for a second that you're different than you actually are is something you register as a legitimate fear, then I think you might have bigger problems than your chestbeating and shouts of "I'm super-dee-duper straight!" can solve, frankly.
Its not about that, its the fact you got people like averagejoel, gunpla, Cyric and Mr Tooth telling you "oh you dont have to date/sleep with trans people, but youre a bigot if you dont."
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SSJPurple
07/07/22 3:48:49 PM
#92:


Are gay men sexist for not dating women?

Of course not.

Is a woman a bigot if shes not sexually attracted to fat people or short people? No.

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Alteres
07/07/22 3:48:51 PM
#93:


Not what I meant flauros, and to deity... I never said they did, but there were people that seemed to be saying it didnt matter.

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sevihaimerej
07/07/22 3:53:45 PM
#94:


DespondentDeity posted...
Not all trans women have penises.
Sexuality is attraction to biological sex/genitals, not gender. In this case the socially constructed labels are meaningless, you don't choose what arouses you. For more information just ask the Tiger in Space to explain the whole sex/death thing

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DespondentDeity
07/07/22 3:56:20 PM
#95:


sevihaimerej posted...
Sexuality is attraction to biological sex/genitals, not gender. In this case the socially constructed labels are meaningless, you don't choose what arouses you. For more information just ask the Tiger in Space to explain the whole sex/death thing

Yet we frequently have cishet males on this board describe the appearance of cis womens vaginas as disgusting.

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gunplagirl
07/07/22 3:57:09 PM
#96:


Straight people really trying hard to make themselves the oppressed group in this topic

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Heartomaton
07/07/22 3:57:54 PM
#97:


dioxxys posted...
Its not about that, its the fact you got people like averagejoel, gunpla, Cyric and Mr Tooth telling you "oh you dont have to date/sleep with trans people, but youre a bigot if you dont."

So? If that's legitimately how they feel about it, then fuck 'em. Just metaphorically. You can accept the validity and equality of any groups under the sun without want to bang/be banged by anyone in them. As long as you accept them as you would any other good people, it doesn't matter if you want to get naughty with them or not.

But posturing like some sort of human peacock isn't a mature or healthy response to the benign situation being made possible by the existence and proximity of different people.

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NoxObscuras
07/07/22 3:57:56 PM
#98:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Bigot really would be accurate, though, in this case. Or at least transphobic.

Allow me to explain:

I would never date a copthat is my preference. But I dont feel the need to try and make a sexuality out of that because not liking cops isnt a sexual orientation, because cop is not a gender.

There isnt a word for people who are straight but only attracted to blondes, because that isnt a sexual orientation, its a preference, because blonde isnt a gender.

A straight woman might have a preference for men with facial hair, but we dont make up a new word and call that a sexuality, because bearded is not a gender.

Some people only want to date someone who wants to have children some day, or even is able to have kids some day. But neither wanting kids or being able to have kids is not a gender, so that preference isnt a sexual orientation.

You can be straight (or gay, or bi, or pan, or pretty much any orientation for that matter) and have a preference for cisgender partners. But, as you can probably extrapolate by now, its just a preference, not a sexuality, because trans isnt a gender.

So, if you have a preference against dating trans people that is so strong you feel you need to make a whole sexuality out of it, to have a pride flag for it, to announce to the entire world at the top of your lungs that you are somehow biologically incapable of feeling attraction to trans people that means, to me, that youre just a transphobe.
Very well put. Best post I've seen on the subject.

dioxxys posted...
Its not about that, its the fact you got people like averagejoel, gunpla, Cyric and Mr Tooth telling you "oh you dont have to date/sleep with trans people, but youre a bigot if you dont."
How is that your interpretation of what MrTooth explained? Maybe re-read that.

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SSJPurple
07/07/22 4:04:47 PM
#99:


gunplagirl posted...
Straight people really trying hard to make themselves the oppressed group in this topic

Na I think people are just asking whats up with the weird double standard.

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sevihaimerej
07/07/22 4:07:07 PM
#100:


DespondentDeity posted...
Yet we frequently have cishet males on this board describe the appearance of cis womens vaginas as disgusting.
Never seen that, not surprising though as this is a very weird place. So... anyway... why have you said this thing to me? Not sure how the behavior of CEmen is related to what I said at all. Are you trying to say these people aren't visually attracted to the vaginas? If so I can't really explain away their position but it could be that they're attracted to some attribute that's not visual. I dunno, shoulda asked them if you find it so perplexing.

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RottingGoat
07/07/22 4:08:24 PM
#101:


I don't understand why people don't just think super straight is hilarious. Who would seriously use that? Super Straight? lol

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