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dummy420
06/19/22 9:10:13 AM
#51:


Kitt posted...
Superman has beaten Batman way more times. Batman gets a few "wins " on him (usually because Supes isn't even trying to fight him in the first place) and everyone (not saying you) thinks he can legitimately square up with him.
IMO theres should be next to 0 chance a human can match what superman does. Batman should never be a threat to a Superman that actually took him seriously. Plot armor is Batmans superpower.

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Smiffwilm
06/19/22 9:22:14 AM
#52:


The question is "can he beat one?" not "will he always beat one?"

So yes, there are scenarios where he could win (prep time being key). Doesn't mean he's the least bit likely to do so with regularity, however. Maybe 3 out of every 100 attempts at best.

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Fony
06/19/22 9:31:04 AM
#53:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
Lmao at people voting no Jedi are terrible and have gotten killed by storm troopers, Jango and other bounty hunters that don't have much going on....

Yea, most Jedi are pathetic. There's literally less than 10 who Batman(or a man with a gun) definitely can't take out.

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Tyranthraxus
06/19/22 9:35:48 AM
#54:


Smiffwilm posted...
The question is "can he beat one?" not "will he always beat one?"

So yes, there are scenarios where he could win (prep time being key). Doesn't mean he's the least bit likely to do so with regularity, however. Maybe 3 out of every 100 attempts at best.
Yes every 100 attempts Batman will smoke 3 Jedi on average. Total of 300 Jedi KTFO

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Srk700
06/19/22 10:03:39 AM
#55:


Yeah, the average jedi isn't that impressive. There's been plenty of them that have been beaten by bounty hunters and the like, so I'm sure Batman could take down your typical jedi.

Now the ones like Yoda, Mace Windu, Luke, etc. are probably different story, though Batman still probably has a chance considering he's won plenty of fights against people with powers that are far stronger than him in the DC universe.
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GrandConjuraton
06/19/22 11:05:10 AM
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Maybe a lower tier Jedi, but the best of the best? Nah.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/19/22 11:07:04 AM
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I don't know but I do enjoy the question.
Is Batman prepared to deal with Jedi mind tricks?
Can he use Midichlorian science to bend all the Jedi out of shape and beat them easily?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
06/19/22 11:09:53 AM
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Batman has a lot of experience fighting people with super powers. A Jedi is basically someone with super powers. I see no reason why he couldn't beat a Jedi.

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Tyranthraxus
06/19/22 11:35:33 AM
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Jango dead ass shot Jedi in the face like it was no big deal.

The average Jedi is a scrub. Yoda, Obi-wan, etc aren't the average Jedi.

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Fony
06/19/22 11:39:38 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Jango dead ass shot Jedi in the face like it was no big deal.

The average Jedi is a scrub. Yoda, Obi-wan, etc aren't the average Jedi.

It's like they don't watch or read anything Star Wars and just look at power sets on Wikipedia. Jedi are easily the most pathetic group of superhumans pretty much ever, especially since they're supposed to all(to varying degrees) have psychic/telepathic/empathic powers for sensing others and feeling thoughts and intentions...on top of the physical super powers. They're like Darkseid falling down a staircase but played straight because of how disposable they are.

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/19/22 11:41:22 AM
#62:


It honestly depends on the context of the fight. Yeah, guys like Jango and Cad Bane could take out a Jedi, but it usually relies on a lot of ambushing, trickery and underhanded tactics. Which Batman could certainly employ on all but the best Jedi masters.

But no way in hell is he winning a straight up fight against above average Jedi. Not when superspeed and literal superhuman reflexes is a thing.

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Bligh_with_no_T
06/19/22 11:55:28 AM
#63:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
I don't know but I do enjoy the question.
Is Batman prepared to deal with Jedi mind tricks?
Can he use Midichlorian science to bend all the Jedi out of shape and beat them easily?
Jedi can't mind trick in the middle of a fight, or at least have never been shown to do so outside of game mechanics.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...
But no way in hell is he winning a straight up fight against above average Jedi. Not when superspeed and literal superhuman reflexes is a thing.
Jedi aren't moving at superhuman speeds outside of specific situations. The main threat of Jedi in combat is their spider sense style reflexes and their combat training. But even then there are abundant instances of even the best Jedi being overwhelmed or caught off guard by relatively unimpressive individuals.

Jedi are more like Kung Fu warrior monks than actual superhumans. It's why they mostly fight with lightsabers with the force as a supporting ability, and not the main threat.
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Proto_Spark
06/19/22 12:01:48 PM
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It would probably be BS, like anti-midichlorian spray, but Batman could comfortably beat anyone in a fight because Batman's superpower is the writers really like him.
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RchHomieQuanChi
06/19/22 12:37:45 PM
#66:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
Jedi aren't moving at superhuman speeds outside of specific situations.

They could use Force speed to give them abilities pretty much identical to The Flash:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Force_speed

Using the Force to increase one's speed was a common ability among many Force-users throughout history, with many able to both use the Force to increase their muscle speed and to slow down their perception of the world. The increased speed of the Force-user enabled them to see the world and the entities around them in slow motion, allowing them to dodge attacks easily and attack more quickly with greater accuracy.[1][13] With sufficient skill in this ability, one could actually run on vertical surfaces for brief periods of time.[9]

The main drawback was that it could drain their energy, but it's certainly a practical option for combat scenarios.



Jedi are more like Kung Fu warrior monks than actual superhumans. It's why they mostly fight with lightsabers with the force as a supporting ability, and not the main threat.

I believe that boils down more to tradition than anything. Lightsabers are a fundamental piece of Jedi culture with it not only being a weapon, but also a symbol of authority and identity. It's basically like having a badge that can be used in combat.

But we also know that Jedi are expert martial artists like Batman, with the best being the best hand to hand combatants in the Star Wars universe.

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Stalinrules
06/19/22 12:57:04 PM
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Yeah, he can beat "a" Jedi. But it depends on the Jedi. He could definitely fuck up some younglings.

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Bligh_with_no_T
06/19/22 1:05:08 PM
#68:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
They could use Force speed to give them abilities pretty much identical to The Flash:
The citations for that are non canon role playing games.

We can see in the films that Jedi move at normal human speeds 99% of the time. They have superhuman reflexes (and frankly so does Batman) but they aren't going to have a notable speed advantage over Batman.
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UhHunnitKay
06/19/22 1:07:54 PM
#69:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
but they aren't going to have a notable speed advantage over Batman.
You must've skipped the opening sequence of Episode I. Watch @ 2:44.

https://youtu.be/3RCYs0N5Wsc?t=164

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Bligh_with_no_T
06/19/22 1:19:15 PM
#70:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
We can see in the films that Jedi move at normal human speeds 99% of the time
Bruh.

At least quote my full post when you know you're clowned.

Yes, they can increase their speed with the force. I never disputed that.

They aren't shown to be able to do it while fighting. They fight at normal humans speeds.
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RchHomieQuanChi
06/19/22 1:23:11 PM
#71:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
The citations for that are non canon role playing games.

Not true.

The Jedi Generals Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Aayla Secura were all known to use the Force to enhance their speed in battle.

Also:

the Force-using Matukai who focused on channeling the Force through their bodies, were highly skilled in sustaining agility based motions using the Force.

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Bligh_with_no_T
06/19/22 1:25:30 PM
#72:


Star Wars fans will cite literally any source of info rather than the actual films lmao.

We can clearly see they fight at normal speeds dude.
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RchHomieQuanChi
06/19/22 1:27:21 PM
#73:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
Star Wars fans will cite literally any source of info rather than the actual films lmao.

We can clearly see they fight at normal speeds dude.

That literally has nothing to do with canonical instances of Force speed being used to augment physical capabilities lmao. Cinema really didn't figure out how to properly depict super speed outside of running until like, 10ish years ago

But please move those goalposts

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UhHunnitKay
06/19/22 1:29:52 PM
#74:


Bligh_with_no_T posted...
Star Wars fans will cite literally any source of info rather than the actual films lmao.

We can clearly see they fight at normal speeds dude.

UhHunnitKay posted...
You must've skipped the opening sequence of Episode I. Watch @ 2:44.

https://youtu.be/3RCYs0N5Wsc?t=164


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Bligh_with_no_T
06/19/22 1:30:57 PM
#75:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
That literally has nothing to do with canonical instances of Force speed being used to augment physical capabilities lmao. Cinema really didn't figure out how to properly depict super speed outside of running until like, 10ish years ago
The entire article you linked is non canon.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AAZcvsAADW9F.jpg

The new trilogy is less than 10 years old. If anything they fight slower there.
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008Zulu
06/20/22 3:02:36 AM
#76:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
Jango and other bounty hunters that don't have much going on....
Jango: I am wearing Beskar, which cannot be damaged by lightsabers! Come at me bro!
Jango gets beheaded because his armour doesn't cover his neck

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Gobstoppers12
06/20/22 3:31:37 AM
#77:


If Jango can kill a Jedi, Batman can beat one.

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