Current Events > Late Stage Capitalism is wanting 14 year olds to fix the 'labor shortage'

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:04:47 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-shortage-wisconsin-senate-jobs-work-teenagers-child-labor-hours-2021-10



Wisconsin's Senate approved a bill on Wednesday that would allow 14 and 15-year-olds to work until 11 p.m. on some days much later than current laws allow.

Supporters of the bill say it could help plug the state's labor shortage.

Wisconsin currently sticks to federal child-labor laws, which stipulate that people under the age of 16 can only work between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. from June 1 to Labor Day, and between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. for the rest of the year.

The proposed bill would allow this group to instead work from 6 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. on days before a school day, and 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. when the next day isn't a school day.

It has now been sent to the Wisconsin Assembly for approval.

The bill would keep in place federal rules limiting teens to three hours of work on a school day, eight hours on non-school days, and six days of work a week.

In testimony to the state's Committee on Labor and Regulatory Reform in June, Sen. Mary Felzkowski and Rep. Amy Loudenbeck said that the bill would help small businesses during the busy summer months.

"Businesses throughout the state see a massive increase in traffic during the summer tourist season, so much so that it can be difficult to find employees to work odd hours and seasonal times," they said. As a result, businesses often hire young people, they said.

Felzkowski and Loudenbeck said that the current legislation meant some businesses choose to close early because their young staff can't work late at night.

Hotel and tourism industry lobbyists are in favor of the bill, but it's opposed by the Wisconsin AFL-CIO, a federation of unions.

The Wisconsin Restaurant Association said in June that it supported extending workers hours for teens to help solve staffing issues. CEO Kristine Hillmer said that restaurants across the state had been boosting wages because of their struggle to find staff, noting that some entry-level dishwashers were starting at $15 an hour or higher.


They passed it

https://wausaupilotandreview.com/2022/01/20/wisconsin-assembly-approve-lowering-working-age-in-summer/



The Wisconsin Assembly sent Gov. Tony Evers a bill on Thursday that would allow teenagers to work longer hours during the busy summer tourism months.The measure passed on a voice vote is backed by Republicans and the states hotel, restaurant and grocery industries, but opposed by Democrats and the Wisconsin AFL-CIO. The state Senate also passed it on a voice vote in October.
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Southernfatman
02/16/22 10:05:44 AM
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The country is regressing and returning to the gilded age. Won't be long before kids are in the coal mines again.

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Solar_Crimson
02/16/22 10:12:39 AM
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Regressive country

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/16/22 10:13:57 AM
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Next they're gonna try to bring back 80 hour work weeks

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gunplagirl
02/16/22 10:16:05 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
The country is regressing and returning to the gilded age. Won't be long before kids are in the coal mines again.
I saw a joke post last week about kids loving minecraft because they yearn for the mines.

And I instantly thought of these laws letting kids work rather than paying a living wage.

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Thompson
02/16/22 10:17:12 AM
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Hey, remember how in Fallout 3, you get a Pipboy on your tenth birthday and the overseer then happily says you're old enough to do work?

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CountDog
02/16/22 10:18:15 AM
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Wisconsin has in incredibly small population. I wonder if any of that factors in?

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:19:45 AM
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CountDog posted...
Wisconsin has in incredibly small population. I wonder if any of that factors in?

what are you trying to say?
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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:20:22 AM
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I regret not working when I was 14. Idk what the big deal is about 14 year olds being allowed to work 2 hours later on non-school nights. Or are people just overreacting to something they didnt fully read into again?

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:21:52 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
I regret not working when I was 14

?
If you had trouble getting a good job it would been better to not work at 14 and get better grades and get a scholarship.
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EmbraceOfDeath
02/16/22 10:22:15 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
The Wisconsin Restaurant Association said in June that it supported extending workers hours for teens to help solve staffing issues. CEO Kristine Hillmer said that restaurants across the state had been boosting wages because of their struggle to find staff, noting that some entry-level dishwashers were starting at $15 an hour or higher.
Oh, well we wouldn't want that! Child labor is definitely the way to go.

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:22:55 AM
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I was not studying all of my time out of school.

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:23:14 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Oh, well we wouldn't want that! Child labor is definitely the way to go.

The measure passed on a voice vote is backed by Republicans and the states hotel, restaurant and grocery industries, but opposed by Democrats and the Wisconsin AFL-CIO
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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:24:07 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
I was not studying all of my time out of school.

so you had perfect gpa?
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TMOG
02/16/22 10:24:25 AM
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Bringing back child labor to own the libs
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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:25:36 AM
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nah that's overrated shouldve just worked all I could while staying sane and invested everything with Mr. Dow while my parents were covering all my expenses.

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NinjaWarrior455
02/16/22 10:26:23 AM
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Don't respond to BP he's a bad faith troll

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:27:24 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
nah that's overrated shouldve just worked all I could while staying sane and invested everything with Mr. Dow while my parents were covering all my expenses.

so you rather fail highschool while working a draining job afterschool and think you smart enough to invest the pittance wage to one day outpace actually having a good job that paid well after college?

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:28:24 AM
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not everyone who works at 14 fails high school couldve cut out time watching tv episodes i already saw

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QueenCarly
02/16/22 10:29:06 AM
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Wisconsin has a fucking abysmal record on workers rights so I'm not remotely surprised at this


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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:31:02 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
not everyone who works at 14 fails high school couldve cut out time watching tv episodes i already saw

you apparently have no idea what working at 14 and the jobs you could do actually entails

showing your ignorance hard
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SweetieBeIle462
02/16/22 10:33:23 AM
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If I could do things over I would work as early as I could.

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Ubergeneral3
02/16/22 10:34:23 AM
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The solution to the "labor shortage" is to pay people a living wage.


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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:34:31 AM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
If I could do things over I would work as early as I could.

lol so you are his alt

not surprised
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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:34:56 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
you apparently have no idea what working at 14 and the jobs you could do actually entails

showing your ignorance hard
Let's see 14 year olds can be babysitters, camp counselors, tutor younger students...What's so horrible about that?

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:35:49 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
Let's see 14 year olds can be babysitters

lol
you really are super clueless

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:35:59 AM
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Not my alt lol. You're acting like 14 year olds work in coal mines or something.

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QueenCarly
02/16/22 10:37:01 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
Let's see 14 year olds can be babysitters, camp counselors, tutor younger students...What's so horrible about that?

They should be allowed to be the kids they are without allowing the capitalists to fully overtake them with their tendrils even sooner

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:37:46 AM
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They're not forced to work they're choosing to work.

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:38:14 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
They're not forced to work they're choosing to work.

oh you believe minors can consent?

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Solar_Crimson
02/16/22 10:39:02 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
The solution to the "labor shortage" is to pay people a living wage.
But how will those poor CEO's and shareholders earn more money?!

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Tyranthraxus
02/16/22 10:40:04 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
But how will those poor CEO's and shareholders earn more money?!
They're about to start losing money if they can't keep operations running so we'll see what gives first (hint it won't be the workers)

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:41:52 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
oh you believe minors can consent?

@BilalPowell
Ah so that's where you're going.

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Alucard188
02/16/22 10:42:50 AM
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Time to open up coal mines and let 5-year-olds run through cracks with nitroglycerin again.

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:43:09 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
Ah so that's where you're going.

What do you mean? Are you ignorant about how things work?
Kids can't just apply for a job because they cannot give consent to work at a job. Their parents have to.
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Tyranthraxus
02/16/22 10:44:31 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What do you mean? Are you ignorant about how things work?
Kids can't just apply for a job because they cannot give consent to work at a job. Their parents have to.

I literally did exactly that when I was 15 so IDK what the fuck you're talking about

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Snakebone99
02/16/22 10:46:22 AM
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Sounds like there are too many restaurants.

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:47:36 AM
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Fine change they're choosing to the kids and their parents are choosing for the kids to work.

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:47:54 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I literally did exactly that when I was 15 so IDK what the fuck you're talking about

What country or state are you in?
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Will_VIIII
02/16/22 10:49:04 AM
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Just because they might be allowed to doesn't mean they will. Dunno that parents can force kids to get a job either.

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BilalPowell
02/16/22 10:49:18 AM
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Snakebone99 posted...
Sounds like there are too many restaurants.
This is true. Probably the most common business idea people come up with.

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Tyranthraxus
02/16/22 10:54:16 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What country or state are you in?
Georgia (at the time I got my first job at any rate)

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 10:59:21 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Georgia (at the time I got my first job at any rate)

Yeah, idk if maybe the law didn't exist then or maybe you just got exploited but:

https://www.job-applications.com/how-old-to-work/georgia/

Minimum Age to Work in GA
Georgia (GA) Quick Reference Table
AgeSummary of Requirements14-15Work Permits are necessary for all workers under the age of 16.16-17Work Permits are unnecessary, though age-related restrictions remain in place.18-20Must be 18 to work in establishments that sell or serve alcohol for consumption21Able to serve alcohol for consumption. No restrictions.

Work Permit Procedures
While the local school district supplies minors with work permit applications during the academic term, summer time employees may be curious about how to get a work permit in the summer. The following information can help teenagers get employment certificates outside of school.
Do you need a work permit during summer?
All minors under 16 years of age must have a work permit in order to gain employment in Georgia.
Where can I get a work permit besides school?
Underage job hopefuls can find youth work permit forms online at Georgias Department of Labor website.
How do I get a work permit during summer?
Find the Georgia Department of Labor page online and click the View All Online Services link.
Under the Youth Work Permit section, click on the Minor link.
Fill in Social Security number and Date of Birth, then click submit to begin the application process.
Complete the forms in order to receive a Minor Security Key for accessing the teens online application.
Give the security key code to a potential employer.
The employer will fill out Employer section of application and register it with the Department of Labor after hiring the minor.


https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/work-permits-for-minors-what-you-need-to-know.html


What Do I Need to Apply for a Work Permit?
Remember, each state has its own set of rules and regulations, but in most cases you will need:
an application in which you provide personal information such as your Social Security number and date of birth
proof of a recent physical or a doctor's note
identification documents such as a birth certificate, passport, driver's license, state issued photo ID, or passport, and
the signature of your parents or guardian on the application.



Or perhaps your school reached out to get that without you realizing it?
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Questionmarktarius
02/16/22 11:01:49 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Regressive country
Technically correct, considering this is how it was in the 50s.
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TMOG
02/16/22 11:02:28 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Technically correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 11:05:10 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Technically correct, considering this is how it was in the 50s.

Wouldn't that just be... correct?
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TheGoldenEel
02/16/22 11:13:33 AM
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This will be vetoed by the governor, thankfully

the GOP gerrymandered a near supermajority in our legislature and our governor who actually represents the will of the people has been vetoing all of these GOP theater bills

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 11:14:25 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
This will be vetoed by the governor, thankfully

the GOP gerrymandered a near supermajority in our legislature and our governor who actually represents the will of the people has been vetoing all of these GOP theater bills

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TheGoldenEel
02/16/22 11:16:51 AM
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But, I am happy these shitty bills like this and the gun law changes theyre trying to make are getting national attention so voters know whats really at stake in our upcoming governor election

idk what the fuck well do if the GOP takes full control again. I cant raise a kid in that environment

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WingsOfGood
02/16/22 11:17:53 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
I cant raise a kid in that environment

You won't have to. He will go work for his new boss.
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