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blackpanther59 02/15/22 4:50:46 PM #1: |
Both are obviously wrong, but isn't taking someone's life worse than causing someone to feel sexually violated? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/15/22 4:51:35 PM #2: |
Isn't it prison --- Common sense said you can common my sense, ifyaknowwhatimeanwinkwink -smackems- some dudette named JimCarrysToe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AwesomeFawful 02/15/22 4:51:57 PM #3: |
Been wondering this for years. --- "Socialism is when the government does stuff, and it's more socialism the more stuff it does, and when it does a real lot of stuff, that's communism!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/15/22 4:52:06 PM #4: |
Murders aren't a guaranteed risk to re-offend. Sex offenders typically are. --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 4:52:54 PM #5: |
CanuckCowboy posted... Murders aren't a guaranteed risk to re-offend.Stats say otherwise Smackems posted... Isn't it prisonmurder isn't always a life sentence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 02/15/22 4:53:39 PM #6: |
It's definitely weird that when a prisoner is released from serving time for a murder they aren't required to have the community informed of such a thing ahead of time. Nothing like the "no coming in contact with kids" rules either AFAIK beyond maybe release conditions forbidding them from seeing former associates/ gang members/ whatever. But a guy who murdered a frail old lady robbing her? Nothing says he can't go talk to any old ladies he wants once he's released AFAIK. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 02/15/22 4:54:35 PM #7: |
blackpanther59 posted... Stats say otherwise I just Google stats on it and the most common number I'm seeing is 2% or less --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/15/22 4:55:15 PM #8: |
Because murder often carries harsh sentences, and sex offenses don't. So we have ways of extending punishment without having to deal with pesky constitutional rights. Same reason they charge for each individual image in child porn cases. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 4:57:46 PM #9: |
gunplagirl posted... It's definitely weird that when a prisoner is released from serving time for a murder they aren't required to have the community informed of such a thing ahead of time. Nothing like the "no coming in contact with kids" rules either AFAIK beyond maybe release conditions forbidding them from seeing former associates/ gang members/ whatever. But a guy who murdered a frail old lady robbing her? Nothing says he can't go talk to any old ladies he wants once he's released AFAIK.It makes me think of the titanic, "women and children" phrase. Why is the titanic focused on women and children? Well, whatever reason, that may be extended here. Most murder victims are adult men, while sex offense victims are women/children. Society seems to focus on protecting them more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 02/15/22 4:58:56 PM #10: |
Aren't there way more sex offenders than murderers too? --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 5:02:47 PM #11: |
I4NRulez posted... I just Google stats on it and the most common number I'm seeing is 2% or lesson sex offenders re offending? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 02/15/22 5:03:10 PM #12: |
blackpanther59 posted... on sex offenders re offending? murderers --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tryin2GetDaPipe 02/15/22 5:05:42 PM #13: |
Way easier to commit a sex crime --- You Trying to Get The Pipe? ~ Earl Joseph Smith III http://i.imgur.com/eXRBTWI.png http://i.imgur.com/ErALyOy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Boombam99 02/15/22 5:06:03 PM #14: |
Because sex stuff is icky and gross and murders are just violence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 02/15/22 5:07:11 PM #15: |
Tryin2GetDaPipe posted... Way easier to commit a sex crime wtf are u talking about? you can murder someone without getting anywhere near them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 5:07:39 PM #16: |
Boombam99 posted... Because sex stuff is icky and gross and murders are just violencejust violence that ends life. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 02/15/22 5:08:22 PM #17: |
blackpanther59 posted... just violence that ends life.They're being sarcastic, but that's the gist of how America views it. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 02/15/22 5:09:49 PM #18: |
blackpanther59 posted... murder isn't always a life sentence It is here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 5:10:38 PM #19: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... They're being sarcastic, but that's the gist of how America views it.okay thank goodness. i thought you were being serious lol Glob posted... It is here.where btw? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 02/15/22 5:12:43 PM #20: |
blackpanther59 posted... where btw? UK. Of course, you might argue that it's not a life sentence if they ever have any hope of getting out. We don't view it that way. However, all individuals convicted of murder are given a life sentence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gucci_Josh 02/15/22 5:14:13 PM #21: |
A murderer probably came from a poor underprivileged neighborhood, where crime, unfortunately, can seem like the only option. We have to be able to believe in a chance for such people to redeem themselves. No need to ruin their life forever for a horrible mistake they made when they were young. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RenescoStCewl 02/15/22 5:16:54 PM #22: |
Glob posted... UK.I don't get how they are called life sentences if people can get out. It doesn't make any sense. --- He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Boombam99 02/15/22 5:17:35 PM #23: |
blackpanther59 posted... okay thank goodness. i thought you were being serious lol Ya I was joking. I agree with you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 02/15/22 5:19:00 PM #24: |
how many of the "one time sex offenders" are actual sex offenders and not just someone who pissed in public behind a tree or something like that. i'd imagine that taints whatever stats america has on this subject ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShutTheF---Up 02/15/22 5:41:47 PM #25: |
RenescoStCewl posted... I don't get how they are called life sentences if people can get out. It doesn't make any sense. Well, the general idea of it is that it's like how if you get a 10 year sentence, but let out early (after, say, 5 years) on parole, you're still officially serving your sentence until the full 10 years are up, and if you breach parole conditions during that time they can whisk you straight back to jail even if you haven't committed a further offence. In the case of a life sentence with parole, the parole conditions would apply for the rest of the person's life even if they are allowed out of the literal prison. --- Trumble alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 5:49:12 PM #26: |
Gucci_Josh posted... A murderer probably came from a poor underprivileged neighborhood, where crime, unfortunately, can seem like the only option. We have to be able to believe in a chance for such people to redeem themselves. No need to ruin their life forever for a horrible mistake they made when they were young.Most sex offenders are age 14. I bet you didnt know that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tryin2GetDaPipe 02/15/22 5:54:23 PM #27: |
Fam_Fam posted... wtf are u talking about?So? Just because you can commit a murder being far away from your target and that you have to be physically close to commit a sex crime doesn't mean that it's easier to commit murders than sex crimes lol --- You Trying to Get The Pipe? ~ Earl Joseph Smith III http://i.imgur.com/eXRBTWI.png http://i.imgur.com/ErALyOy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 02/15/22 5:58:33 PM #28: |
Tryin2GetDaPipe posted... Way easier to commit a sex crimehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/9/AANKsdAAC7gn.jpg --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 02/15/22 5:59:33 PM #29: |
blackpanther59 posted... Most sex offenders are age 14. I bet you didnt know that.Source? --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/15/22 6:05:46 PM #30: |
blackpanther59 posted... Stats say otherwise What stats? Are you saying most murderers are serial killers? Are you saying sex offenders don't frequently commit multiple offences? Where did you find these stats? Why don't you link them? --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master Kazuya 02/15/22 6:16:55 PM #31: |
No clue, there should be --- itt my post is the best ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/15/22 6:22:48 PM #32: |
Master Kazuya posted... No clue, there should be There's such a thing as justifiable homicide. Ain't no justifiable sexual assault. --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 02/15/22 6:27:00 PM #33: |
CanuckCowboy posted... There's such a thing as justifiable homicide. Ain't no justifiable sexual assault.Homicide isn't murder. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 02/15/22 6:31:33 PM #34: |
Will_VIIII posted... Source? the source is @blackpanther59 lied https://icasa.org/docs/sexual_offenders_-_draft-7.doc 10.9% of sexual offenders are 18 years of age or younger; 8% are 18-20; 31.2% are 21-29; 40% are 30 or older. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 02/15/22 6:33:17 PM #35: |
gunplagirl posted... It's definitely weird that when a prisoner is released from serving time for a murder they aren't required to have the community informed of such a thing ahead of time. Nothing like the "no coming in contact with kids" rules either AFAIK beyond maybe release conditions forbidding them from seeing former associates/ gang members/ whatever. But a guy who murdered a frail old lady robbing her? Nothing says he can't go talk to any old ladies he wants once he's released AFAIK. to be fair, most murders are like "crimes of passion". Its not a way of thinking for most people. Its like a things went wrong thing. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 6:36:16 PM #36: |
I4NRulez posted... to be fair, most murders are like "crimes of passion". Its not a way of thinking for most people. Its like a things went wrong thing.and cant that be said of sex crimes? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 6:37:21 PM #37: |
CanuckCowboy posted... There's such a thing as justifiable homicide. Ain't no justifiable sexual assault.Nope, only thing justified is self defense, not homocide. Homicide = murder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 02/15/22 6:40:48 PM #38: |
blackpanther59 posted... Nope, only thing justified is self defense, not homocide. Homicide = murderHomicide just means killing someone. It includes justified and unjustified killings. Homicide isn't murder, but murder is homicide. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 6:42:55 PM #39: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... Homicide just means killing someone. It includes justified and unjustified killings. Homicide isn't murder, but murder is homicide.this topic wasnt about homcides, it was about murders dont try and deviate the main point of the thread ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 02/15/22 6:45:38 PM #40: |
blackpanther59 posted... but isn't taking someone's life worse than causing someone to feel sexually violated?actually I feel the opposite but whatever --- Wake up. You have to wake up. *currently a preta/hungry ghost* Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 02/15/22 6:46:02 PM #41: |
blackpanther59 posted... this topic wasnt about homcides, it was about murdersI'm not the one who brought up homicide. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 6:46:28 PM #42: |
nfearurspecimn posted... actually I feel the opposite but whateverwhy. are you suicidal? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 6:48:13 PM #43: |
nfearurspecimn posted... actually I feel the opposite but whatever@CanuckCowboy i should have quoted you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biofighter55 02/15/22 6:53:39 PM #44: |
blackpanther59 posted... Nope, only thing justified is self defense, not homocide. Homicide = murder thats wrong too, if you kill someone because someones life is in danger, thats justified Homicide or like in Texas if you kill someone who was in the process of sexual assaulting someone, thats justifiable homicide --- This is my sig. Don't like it, then don't look at it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 02/15/22 7:55:30 PM #45: |
Tryin2GetDaPipe posted... So? Just because you can commit a murder being far away from your target and that you have to be physically close to commit a sex crime doesn't mean that it's easier to commit murders than sex crimes lol it would be trivial to murder essentially any non-bodyguarded person if you wanted to. successfully committing a sex crime would be much more challenging. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 11:15:45 PM #46: |
Biofighter55 posted... thats wrong too, if you kill someone because someones life is in danger, thats justified Homicidethats basically "self defense" for another person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/15/22 11:19:41 PM #47: |
Shouldn't they execute everyone the moment they are convicted of a crime if they're going to make sure their lives are ruined even after they serve their time? I'm not seeing the point of prison/jail in this society. Mods: This is a criticism, not an endorsement. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 02/15/22 11:19:52 PM #48: |
blackpanther59 posted... thats basically "self defense" for another person. The point is that not all homicide is murder. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blackpanther59 02/15/22 11:25:58 PM #49: |
TheOtherMike posted... The point is that not all homicide is murder.I said "murders registry" in the title. I could easily say "not all sex is a sex offense". The thread is clearly about wrongdoings and their penalties. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/15/22 11:28:12 PM #50: |
Murder is a weird technical legal word that doesn't really belong in casual conversation about pedantic definitions. When you're charged with a crime, you can either defend yourself by saying you didn't do it, or you can employ an affirmative defense. For example, if you're being sued for stealing a copyrighted video, you can either say "no I didn't steal anything" or employ the affirmative defense "fair use" (well I did take it but it was to make a parody of it) The same concept applies to self defense and murder. If you kill someone, you get charged with murder and then have to defend yourself with "self defense" in court. At that point the only difference between homicide and murder is what the jury thinks about your story. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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