Current Events > Putin: Genocide happening in Eastern Ukraine.

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 1:05:01 PM
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I mean his line/propaganda all along has been that ethnic and linguistic Russians in Ukraine are being persecuted and oppressed, and this is a natural extension of that lie. Useful pretext for intervention

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Machete
02/15/22 1:05:26 PM
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putin is just like donald. Everything he says is a lie.

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ScazarMeltex
02/15/22 1:05:31 PM
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Welp, here we go. That's the false flag.

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 1:10:53 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That's pretty much always been his argument, this is just the first time he's brought genocide into the lie

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ScazarMeltex
02/15/22 1:29:10 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yep. And like that situation the rest of the world will shrug it's shoulders and say "not our problem".

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UnholyMudcrab
02/15/22 1:33:27 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Yep. And like that situation the rest of the world will shrug it's shoulders and say "not our problem".
Ironically enough, Germany is the one trying the "peace in our time" approach this time.

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DEKMStephens
02/15/22 1:34:42 PM
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Putin: from my point of view the Jedi are evil

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iPhone_7
02/15/22 1:34:55 PM
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I dont get why theres so many leftists on social media blaming the U.S. & NATO for whats happening.

As if Putin has no choice but to amass an invasion force and threaten an invasion. It seems hes got fanboys on both ends of the U.S.s political spectrum.

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 1:36:07 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I dont get why theres so many leftists on social media blaming the U.S. & NATO for whats happening.

As if Putin has no choice but to amass an invasion force and threaten an invasion. It seems hes got fanboys on both ends of the U.S.s political spectrum.
Same reason some leftists support the CCP/Chinese imperialism. They have some misplaced nostalgia for a Soviet Union they never even experienced, and are willing to forgive imperial aggression as long as it's colored red (not that Russia isn't an authoritarian capitalistic state)

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SauI_Goodman
02/15/22 1:36:07 PM
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Sounds like its happening. Your move, biden.

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Tyranthraxus
02/15/22 1:39:29 PM
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Weird it's almost like that one US press guy who said "if you'd rather trust foreign sources over our CIA that's your problem" knew what he was talking about.

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Seaman_Prime
02/15/22 1:40:23 PM
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What? Is he admitting to what he plans to do?
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OmegaShinkai
02/15/22 1:44:07 PM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
What? Is he admitting to what he plans to do?
It's literally the same thing that happened in South Ossetia. Russia claims ethnic Russians are being oppressed, invades to "liberate" them, and then holds a sham referendum where 99% of the people there want to be annexed by Russia.

No one stopped them there, no one stopped them in Crimea, and no one stopped their support of rebels in Donbass even after they shot down MH17 with a Russian missile, so Putin knows he'll get away with it here again.
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AablMind
02/15/22 1:50:38 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Weird it's almost like that one US press guy who said "if you'd rather trust foreign sources over our CIA that's your problem" knew what he was talking about.
I dont think you can trust either

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Thompson
02/15/22 1:56:00 PM
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If I'm getting this right, in the regions that have been under the control of the rebels for about eight years and been for all intents and purposes off-limits to Ukrainians for as long, Ukraine is now committing a genocide?
Yeah, sure, sure...

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Tom Clark
02/15/22 2:00:44 PM
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Here we go...

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iPhone_7
02/15/22 2:37:31 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Same reason some leftists support the CCP/Chinese imperialism. They have some misplaced nostalgia for a Soviet Union they never even experienced, and are willing to forgive imperial aggression as long as it's colored red (not that Russia isn't an authoritarian capitalistic state)
I was sorta thinking maybe its cause those Americans have angst towards their own country and so they support China or Russia simply for being the enemy superpower. Thats just a guess, I find this whole thing bizarre.

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 2:38:33 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I was sorta thinking maybe its cause those Americans have angst towards their own country and so they support China or Russia simply for being the enemy superpower. Thats just a guess, I find this whole thing bizarre.
Also, I believe, often true.

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ShutTheF---Up
02/15/22 2:40:30 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I was sorta thinking maybe its cause those Americans have angst towards their own country and so they support China or Russia simply for being the enemy superpower. Thats just a guess, I find this whole thing bizarre.

They have personal grievances against America. They have nothing personal against Russia or China or whoever else.

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brestugo
02/15/22 2:41:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Weird it's almost like that one US press guy who said "if you'd rather trust foreign sources over our CIA that's your problem" knew what he was talking about.


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BlackOmnimon
02/15/22 2:43:01 PM
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Genocide accusations must be taken seriously.

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 3:09:03 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Genocide accusations must be taken seriously.
Shut the fuck up LNSS

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BlackOmnimon
02/15/22 3:10:56 PM
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I see you disagree.

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Unsugarized_Foo
02/15/22 3:12:27 PM
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Invade the China camps with Russia

Gain allies

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IndorilGawain
02/15/22 3:12:34 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
I see you disagree.
Remind us why your main is always in purg for expressing your thoughts on the Xinjiang situation

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ScazarMeltex
02/15/22 3:37:54 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I was sorta thinking maybe its cause those Americans have angst towards their own country and so they support China or Russia simply for being the enemy superpower. Thats just a guess, I find this whole thing bizarre.
It's mostly this. If you spend enough time studying American history in places like South and Central America you'll find that we are the baddies 99% of the time. So people extrapolate from that and essentially take a counter position that anytime America is involved the other side is the good guy.

What people need to understand is that yes, we've done absolutely horrible shit for the entirety of our history, but that doesn't change the narrative here. We do occasionally end up on the right side of things. Ukraine deserves it's independence and the US guaranteed it's sovereignty in the Budapest Memorandum.

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EmbraceOfDeath
02/15/22 3:41:54 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
I see you disagree.
It's the epitome of naivety to take someone's word seriously when they have a long history of constant lies.

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Delirious_Beard
02/15/22 6:37:40 PM
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Machete posted...
putin is just like donald. Everything he says is a lie.

there's a reason donnie boy idolizes him so much

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BlackOmnimon
02/15/22 9:47:04 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It's the epitome of naivety to take someone's word seriously when they have a long history of constant lies.

True.

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ShutTheF---Up
02/15/22 9:57:51 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Genocide accusations must be taken seriously.
Credible genocide accusations must be taken seriously.

You forgot the word "credible".

Just in case, given how much mods like to twist things: I am not saying that Putin's claims are credible; I am saying that being credible is a precondition for taking such accusations seriously.

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BlackOmnimon
02/16/22 1:01:17 PM
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Given the presence of far-right militias in the region, it sounds credible.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696703

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IndorilGawain
02/16/22 1:02:02 PM
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The tankies who constantly bring up far-right militias in Ukraine as if Russia isn't a far-right autocracy are hilarious lol

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Ruvan22
02/16/22 3:37:02 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Given the presence of far-right militias in the region, it sounds credible.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696703

A) That article just repeats claims?
B) Do you find other things Putin has said credible? How much do you weigh the speaker's past?
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IndorilGawain
02/16/22 5:22:16 PM
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@Ruvan22 ask him why his main is always in purgatory for expressing his thoughts on the situation in Xinjiang

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1337toothbrush
02/16/22 5:24:57 PM
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What's with all the genocide deniers?!

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BlackOmnimon
02/16/22 5:52:47 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
What's with all the genocide deniers?!


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CrimsonAngel
02/16/22 5:55:11 PM
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You know Russia isn't the USSR don't you? You don't have to stan for Putin he's not communist

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1337toothbrush
02/16/22 5:57:37 PM
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CrimsonAngel posted...
You know Russia isn't the USSR don't you? You don't have to stan for Putin he's not communist
The USSR wasn't communist.

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IndorilGawain
02/16/22 6:08:38 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
The USSR wasn't communist.
Lmao

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Elon-Musk
02/16/22 6:37:38 PM
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This topic is disturbing.

Genocide denial is NOT okay, people.

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IndorilGawain
02/16/22 6:40:16 PM
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All the alts coming out

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ThyCorndog
02/16/22 6:41:50 PM
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putin shills shitting it up ITT

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UnholyMudcrab
02/16/22 6:43:34 PM
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Given that I can't see the posts people are talking about here, I'm gonna venture a guess that it's an LNSS alt who has blocked me.

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Nukazie
02/16/22 6:46:19 PM
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still waitin on the putin

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IndorilGawain
02/16/22 7:37:50 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Given that I can't see the posts people are talking about here, I'm gonna venture a guess that it's an LNSS alt who has blocked me.
correct

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Ruvan22
02/16/22 7:39:06 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
@Ruvan22 ask him why his main is always in purgatory for expressing his thoughts on the situation in Xinjiang
Who is his main?
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