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SpiritSephiroth 02/15/22 2:10:47 PM #102: |
CyricZ posted... Honestly if people confirm to me that this statement comes from the streamer's persona and not him personally, then I think of the streamer himself less poorly, but the problem is then less about the streamer and more about the people trying to convince me how direct and intelligent the streamer is through a commentary he's giving as a character, which I would think people would agree with me somewhat muddies the message being sent. Again, you based your opinion on him playing a character. But if you knew at all what you were talking about, he doesn't see his persona as Asmongold a 'character'. He never has. His Ideologies on Asmongold and Zackrawr are one in the same. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 02/15/22 2:12:51 PM #103: |
Gobstoppers12 posted... You can't just slap the parasocial label on everybody who supports a streamer in opposition to their critics. The term suggests that we think of him as a friend, but really he's just a guy who makes videos. That said, he is a real person, and if he's being done dirty by critics and nay sayers, it's completely normal to have the desire to say "well actually you're wrong"Alright. Then: It's pretty interesting how invested we all are in the views of our video game streamers. --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/15/22 2:12:52 PM #104: |
SpiritSephiroth posted... Again, you based your opinion on him playing a character. But if you knew at all what you were talking about, he doesn't see his persona as Asmongold a 'character'. He never has.Okay, so you're suggesting he's not playing a character in this instance, correct? If so, then that's all I need to know. Thanks. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 02/15/22 2:13:23 PM #105: |
But of course this topic is full of people talking about things they haven't even watched. If there was even one person here who has watched his videos, I'd probably be happier having a conversation with them, if they had a problem with certain views spoken. At least then I'd know they've actually watched the content they're complaining about. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eab1990 02/15/22 2:14:03 PM #106: |
I guess nobody wants to talk about the lolis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV_xUTO3YeM --- https://imgur.com/a/Q0PEJQD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SweetieBeIle462 02/15/22 2:14:45 PM #107: |
I like the designs --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 02/15/22 2:20:38 PM #108: |
Jesus, was looking more into Asmongold and dude seems worse than I thought. https://www.resetera.com/threads/wow-ffxiv-streamer-asmongold-has-a-recent-history-of-using-ableist-slurs -and-defending-the-use-of-racial-slurs.458604/ --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/15/22 2:22:49 PM #109: |
QueenCarly posted... Jesus, was looking more into Asmongold and dude seems worse than I thought.*whistles* --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 02/15/22 2:24:20 PM #110: |
Imagine linking to resetera lol --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 02/15/22 2:33:44 PM #111: |
Kotaku and Resetera in one thread. Amazing. QueenCarly posted... Jesus, was looking more into Asmongold and dude seems worse than I thought. He's a bad guy based on his past deeds, so everything he does from there means his views are invalidated. No matter what. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 02/15/22 2:36:46 PM #112: |
Also the worst thing on that topic is the N-word, and that isn't even him lmao. Edit: "I'm a racist everywhere" Imagine people not being able to detect sarcasm. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 02/15/22 2:38:35 PM #113: |
Linking to Kotaku or Resetera should be bannable offenses. --- I don't need to see a movie to know how well the characters are handled- Danyarmy The PS5 has liquid metal tech like the T-1000 Terminator- AceCombatX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/15/22 2:38:52 PM #114: |
Nobody ever notices the times when people aren't racist. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nazanir 02/15/22 2:43:23 PM #115: |
So Lost Ark releases over 2 years ago on December 4th. Why is it a problem NOW? --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 02/15/22 2:43:58 PM #116: |
Nazanir posted... So Lost Ark releases over 2 years ago on December 4th. Because America got a hold of it. Edit: Thats not fair on everyone in America. More like Social politics in America. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/15/22 2:44:22 PM #117: |
That looks cringy as shit. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 02/15/22 2:48:08 PM #118: |
Nazanir posted... So Lost Ark releases over 2 years ago on December 4th.If you paid attention to how many countries it released in 2 years ago you'd have your answer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuuko-Chan 02/15/22 2:50:33 PM #119: |
SJWism, the mind cancer --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 02/15/22 2:52:03 PM #120: |
Yuuko-Chan posted... SJWism, the mind cancer Cringe --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/15/22 2:52:20 PM #121: |
Gamers: "They're just video games" Also gamers: "Female characters have to be sexy and do feminine things! That's how the world works! Also, statistically, there should only be one LGBT character in every fifth or sixth game. It's demographics!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 02/15/22 3:06:11 PM #122: |
I'm actually tempted to play this game now. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 02/15/22 3:09:07 PM #123: |
ColdOne666 posted... I'm actually tempted to play this game now. Lol, of course you are --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 02/15/22 3:14:46 PM #124: |
ColdOne666 posted... I'm actually tempted to play this game now.I hear it's pretty good. I kinda ARPG'd myself out playing Diablo 3 a ton over the years, but if you're into it, I'm told this is the best one in ages. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 02/15/22 3:28:16 PM #125: |
QueenCarly posted... Lol, of course you are Why are you so obsessed with me? Rent free baby. I'm single if your up for it @QueenCarly --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 02/15/22 3:35:38 PM #126: |
I guess people are arguing over a streamer because a Korean MMO that was recently localised having dated character design is overall a pretty lukewarm take. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 02/15/22 3:41:23 PM #127: |
ColdOne666 posted... I'm singleWater is wet. We bother just stated obvious facts that will never change ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mibahlzitch 02/15/22 4:17:56 PM #128: |
If the high heels are stuck onto the character model at all times that's lame. I played a Korean mmo that did that before and was like "oh come on". It's not a sexy thing though, I just want to be able to take off the damn heels. --- It's all true. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 02/15/22 4:51:19 PM #129: |
OVERGOATED posted... lmao kotaku ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WorsCaseOntario 02/15/22 4:52:13 PM #130: |
Why do some people just hate the fact that there are obvious differences between men and women --- Frankly my dear, I don't give a ham. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 02/15/22 4:56:05 PM #131: |
WorsCaseOntario posted... Why do some people just hate the fact that there are obvious differences between men and womenIt's fine to an extent to criticize certain outdated tropes or stupid trends. I think the crusades against specific games are getting a bit old at this point. It doesn't render them immune from criticism, but some people do need to realize there is a market for stupidly gratuitous sexualized designs and there is a market for whatever some western developers are doing with their character designs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HairyQueen 02/15/22 5:10:09 PM #132: |
I mean theyre not wrong. Its pretty bad --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 02/15/22 5:11:38 PM #133: |
What is with this sudden aversion to sexy ladies? --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JimRob 02/15/22 5:12:09 PM #134: |
lilORANG posted... What is with this sudden aversion to sexy ladies? ThEy ArE uNrEaLiStIc!!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/15/22 5:15:34 PM #135: |
pogo_rabid posted... Relevant clip regarding lost arkIt is kinda weird that female idealization gets so much more outrage than male but it also kind of makes sense. I think part of the reason may be that males are the ones playing most of these games (and women often don't and thus don't really understand them). Women probably just find it threatening that men spend so much time with media that features ridiculous women. Reverse the roles and the reverse might happen. It still isn't really rational to be threatened by vidya women though, because men have almost no standards. Hot video game women obviously aren't a threat, guys IRL will still fuck almost any woman. We're pathetic simps like that --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/15/22 5:20:36 PM #136: |
Eab1990 posted... I guess nobody wants to talk about the lolis.Those aren't lolis. hockeybub89 posted... Also, statistically, there should only be one LGBT character in every fifth or sixth game. It's demographics!"As long as they're funny like the ones in God Hand, I welcome gay characters --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gucci_Josh 02/15/22 5:20:47 PM #137: |
tbh it's pretty offensive they still have gendered category/characters. Imagine being non-binary and having this shit shoved in your face. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 02/15/22 5:28:34 PM #139: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Mmhm. It's all intentional antagonism towards groups that they want to live in fear while keeping plausible deniability when called out. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 02/15/22 5:30:58 PM #140: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I mean, not for nothing... chick fil a is awesome. It's okay to like chicken without having a political undercurrent. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HairyQueen 02/15/22 5:34:08 PM #141: |
Giblet_Enjoyer posted... As long as they're funny like the ones in God Hand, I welcome gay charactersWhy does a gay character have to be funny for you to welcome them? --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bnui_ransder 02/15/22 5:38:23 PM #143: |
It really must suck though, when a bunch of nobodies get to tell you what you are allowed to do with your own game --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WorsCaseOntario 02/15/22 5:40:34 PM #144: |
Sure is tumblr in here --- Frankly my dear, I don't give a ham. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 02/15/22 5:43:24 PM #145: |
bnui_ransder posted... It really must suck though, when a bunch of nobodies get to tell you what you are allowed to do with your own game That happens to basically every game ever. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/15/22 5:53:43 PM #146: |
HairyQueen posted... Why does a gay character have to be funny for you to welcome them?That was just the first thing that came to mind as far as good gay characters go. Can't think of any others where their gayness was really part of their character in any meaningful way. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HairyQueen 02/15/22 5:54:47 PM #147: |
Giblet_Enjoyer posted... That was just the first thing that came to mind as far as good gay characters go. Can't think of any others where their gayness was really part of their character in any meaningful way.I mean, why would it have to be? Do you say the same about straight characters? Seems like a weird way to look at it. --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Collat 02/15/22 6:17:14 PM #148: |
The free-to-play action MMORPG forces women to wear heels and has gender-locked classes Well that does actually sound kinda shit at least. Especially for the classes. Not clicking on the article though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/15/22 6:22:44 PM #149: |
HairyQueen posted... Do you say the same about straight characters?Their straightness usually doesn't come up. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Collat 02/15/22 6:26:47 PM #150: |
Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Their straightness usually doesn't come up.Yeah. I never see straight couples in video games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 02/15/22 6:27:27 PM #151: |
It's ironic cause I stopped reading kotaku a decade ago as well. I want more high heels in my video games, not less, so stfu kotaku. High heels on everyone. --- ( o _o) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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