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found some DVDs of these 3. The 1989 movie is a VHS unfortunately

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Mask_of_the_Phantasm

Forever was my favorite because Val Kilmer is hot and the movie was really silly and fun

Batman Returns is great.

I can't say which Schumacher film I'd rank lower. Batman Forever has greater high points. Kidman is hot, Carry has some memorable quotes, and Tommy Lee is fun if you forget that he's supposed to be Two-Face. But I also have greater disdain for the film for pretending to be a legitimate successor to the Keaton movies. The fourth film knew exactly what it was, a two-hour toy commercial, and accepted it openly.

I don't blame the director for how the third film turned out. The studio changed horses midstream and decided that the film would be lighthearted during production. You can't do that. The tone is the very first thing you decide upon. It determines the clothing, the set design, the way the characters are written, etc. You can't just say, "These dark characters are going to be fun and kid-friendly now," when you're already deep in the decision-making process.

Forever, robin, returns

i don't like returns

Returns was pretty grim and depressing (and one shot in particular gave me nightmares as a kid), but I'd still put it as the best of the three. Forever is really dragged down by Tommy Lee Jones playing Jack Nicholson's Joker playing Two-Face, and tbh the rest of the movie is kinda forgettable. But it still edges out Batman and Robin.

masterpug53 posted...

Returns was pretty grim and depressing (and one shot in particular gave me nightmares as a kid), but I'd still put it as the best of the three. Forever is really dragged down by Tommy Lee Jones playing Jack Nicholson's Joker playing Two-Face, and tbh the rest of the movie is kinda forgettable. But it still edges out Batman and Robin.

is it Walken face fry?

BuckVanHammer posted...

is it Walken face fry?

You know it. Walken's charred bug-eyed corpse haunted my dreams for many weeks to follow.

masterpug53 posted...

Returns was pretty grim and depressing (and one shot in particular gave me nightmares as a kid), but I'd still put it as the best of the three. Forever is really dragged down by Tommy Lee Jones playing Jack Nicholson's Joker playing Two-Face, and tbh the rest of the movie is kinda forgettable. But it still edges out Batman and Robin.

This is pretty much my take on it. I've never liked Returns all that much, but grim and dark still works better than neon and campy.

Much as I hate to say it, I'm of the opinion that none of those movies (including the 89 Batman) aged particularly well.

First half of Returns is the best. Second half is the worst.

Returns > B&R > Forever

Returns has some issues, but it's still pretty good.

I put Forever worst because it had potential to be good. I think TLJ as Two Face and Jim Carrey as The Riddler were brilliant casting choices. Both would have been awesome as those characters if they were actually written right. Val Kilmer and Nicole Kidman are great actors as well, but didn't have much to work with so they're just kinda "ehhh" in it.

At least with B&R, you can laugh more at how dumb it is and can enjoy it in a "so bad it's good" way.

Mask of The Phantasm > All

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