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BeantownHero
02/09/22 4:41:50 PM
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"Could you please remove him?"

"No."

"Ok. Me, any many others, including people on your platform will no longer do business with you"

How is that censorship again?


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PMarth2002
02/09/22 4:45:00 PM
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Its not, but claiming it is gets people riled up which gets more views or clicks or whatever, which means more money for the people saying its censorship.

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Southernfatman
02/09/22 4:45:30 PM
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When the right cancels it's boycotting.
When the left boycotts it's cancelling.

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Timmyjinkle
02/09/22 4:46:38 PM
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Censorship describes a variety of processes formal and informal, overt and covert, conscious and unconscious, by which restrictions are imposed on the collection, display, dissemination, and exchange of information, opinions, ideas and imaginative expression.
Censorship is an instrument to assist in the attainment, preservation or continuance of somebodys power, whether exercised by an individual, an institution or a state. It is as Michael Scammell, one of the founders of Index on Censorship has put it the extension of physical power into the realm of the mind and the spirit. - Flemming Rose

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BeantownHero
02/09/22 4:55:09 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Its not, but claiming it is gets people riled up which gets more views or clicks or whatever, which means more money for the people saying its censorship.

The hypocrisy is just wild

When its the NFL/Kaepernick or the MLB moving the all star game out of Georgia, its Patriots standing up for america

when its Spotify/Rogan or the lady from the Mandalorian, its left wing fascists shutting down free speech


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Timmyjinkle
02/09/22 5:01:51 PM
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Self-censorship is driven by fear. It is closely connected to censorship and intimidation of the public space. When people stop fearing for the consequences of what they say dictatorships fall. Fear is often a very legitimate feeling, but it comes at a price. A fear society doesnt have to apply repressive laws because people themselves will internalise the limits of freedom that have been drawn by intimidators of one kind or another. Citizens will practice self-censorship so that there will no need to silence them. They will silence themselves.
Self-censorship is invisible. You will only learn about it if people are honest about their motivations for not saying one thing or the other out of fear. You cannot pass a law that protects people against fear. Its extremely destructive for a society. - Flemming Rose

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Lost_All_Senses
02/09/22 5:05:41 PM
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People who stick to the censoring argument usually just don't know enough to talk about the nuances of each situation. They just stick to a broad blanket argument that doesn't even cover what they think it's covering.

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BeantownHero
02/09/22 5:05:43 PM
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"Using the N word, as a white person, completely consequence free, on a major media platform is really speaking truth to power"

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Lost_All_Senses
02/09/22 5:08:25 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
"Using the N word, as a white person, completely consequence free, on a major media platform is really speaking truth to power"

Grown adults treat the N word like it's a toy that grown ups are telling them not to play with. They only care about it cause they can't have it.

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PoundGarden
02/09/22 5:09:03 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
"Could you please remove him?"

"No."

"Ok. Me, any many others, including people on your platform will no longer do business with you"

How is that censorship again?

Conservatives don't understand what many of the words that make them furious actually mean

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The_Creep_2020
02/09/22 5:09:44 PM
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Timmyjinkle posted...
Self-censorship is driven by fear. It is closely connected to censorship and intimidation of the public space. When people stop fearing for the consequences of what they say dictatorships fall. Fear is often a very legitimate feeling, but it comes at a price. A fear society doesnt have to apply repressive laws because people themselves will internalise the limits of freedom that have been drawn by intimidators of one kind or another. Citizens will practice self-censorship so that there will no need to silence them. They will silence themselves.
Self-censorship is invisible. You will only learn about it if people are honest about their motivations for not saying one thing or the other out of fear. You cannot pass a law that protects people against fear. Its extremely destructive for a society. - Flemming Rose

It's obvious you don't see the dangers of censorship, but I suggest just read a little about what happens in such places - you don't have to look far, pre-17th Century Europe had the Church censor people's speech, beliefs and eventually even their own thoughts. It was only when this block was removed, that Europe entered into the Age of Enlightenment, and it was called this for a reason.

Just because you change the actor in charge of the censorship -- does not change the damage, and destruction it causes.

Yeah, just look at the way the GOP is trying to get books by black and LGBTQI authors banned, and the way theyre trying to control the curriculum in schools.

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DrizztLink
02/09/22 5:10:59 PM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Yeah, just look at the way the GOP is trying to get books by black and LGBTQI authors banned, and the way theyre trying to control the curriculum in schools.
Please don't bother with the obvious shitposting stolen account.

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The_Creep_2020
02/09/22 5:11:49 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Please don't bother with the obvious shitposting stolen account.
Oh, Im not. Not really.

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Timmyjinkle
02/09/22 5:18:19 PM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Yeah, just look at the way the GOP is trying to get books by black and LGBTQI[+] authors banned, and the way theyre trying to control the curriculum in schools.

Do you view being against censorship as a "right"-wing idea? That's quite literally terrifying.

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NeoShadowhen
02/09/22 5:23:27 PM
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I dont think anyone has referred to Neal Young leaving in protest as censorship. I think it is typically said that calls for Rogan to be removed is an attempt at censorship.
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Lonestar2000
02/09/22 5:24:40 PM
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Timmyjinkle posted...
Do you view being against censorship as a "right"-wing idea? That's quite literally terrifying.
Stolen alt can't read.

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BeantownHero
02/09/22 5:41:57 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
I dont think anyone has referred to Neal Young leaving in protest as censorship. I think it is typically said that calls for Rogan to be removed is an attempt at censorship.


How is it censorship to not be paid by ONE media platform?

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