Current Events > Been committing time theft up the wazoo. Need advice for if they catch me

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Chicken
02/05/22 7:05:35 PM
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From what ive heard, when folks at my job are caught stealing or similar things, they get this ex cop dude to sit down with you and the boss and basically interrogate you. If this happens I need a game plan. Should I just refuse to answer any questions or would that do more harm than good?

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OliviaWildThing
02/05/22 7:06:37 PM
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i'm an expert on this. how badly has your time theft been? how closely do they track your hours?
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thronedfire2
02/05/22 7:07:22 PM
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Tell them to prove it

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Timmyjinkle
02/05/22 7:07:48 PM
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"If you do everything right - it's as if you've done nothing at all."

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MabusIncarnate
02/05/22 7:09:45 PM
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Gonna need more details, how many hours you work compared to your clocked in time. I have experience with this as a former manager so maybe I can help.

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Chicken
02/05/22 7:14:20 PM
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OliviaWildThing posted...
i'm an expert on this. how badly has your time theft been? how closely do they track your hours?

MabusIncarnate posted...
Gonna need more details, how many hours you work compared to your clocked in time. I have experience with this as a former manager so maybe I can help.

so most days Ill show up 30 minutes late, and take twice as long on my breaks. They dont keep a close eye on me but if they get suspicious they can check camera footage. There was one guy who was stealing food every day and they went through the footage from all of his shifts I think theres a whole department dedicated to analyzing camera footage for thefts. We just submit an online time sheet every week, we dont punch in or out at all.

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PowerOats
02/05/22 7:14:31 PM
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Uh couldn't you just stop <_<
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OliviaWildThing
02/05/22 7:21:08 PM
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Chicken posted...
so most days Ill show up 30 minutes late, and take twice as long on my breaks. They dont keep a close eye on me but if they get suspicious they can check camera footage. There was one guy who was stealing food every day and they went through the footage from all of his shifts I think theres a whole department dedicated to analyzing camera footage for thefts. We just submit an online time sheet every week, we dont punch in or out at all.

your best bet is to not get to the checking footage stage. that's very time consuming and a lot of effort, so they generally don't want to have to do that

how is your timesheet tracked? is it per project? are you missing deadlines?

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Yuuko-Chan
02/05/22 7:22:53 PM
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Tell them you were pooping

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Flauros
02/05/22 7:23:02 PM
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How about not doing that in the first place?

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Chicken
02/05/22 7:25:02 PM
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OliviaWildThing posted...
your best bet is to not get to the checking footage stage. that's very time consuming and a lot of effort, so they generally don't want to have to do that

how is your timesheet tracked? is it per project? are you missing deadlines?
Nah we just put in our hours, no extra details. The only way theyd catch on is if someone noticed I wasnt here but thats unlikely. Just wanna be prepared in case it happens.

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OliviaWildThing
02/05/22 7:26:41 PM
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Chicken posted...
Nah we just put in our hours, no extra details. The only way theyd catch on is if someone noticed I wasnt here but thats unlikely. Just wanna be prepared in case it happens.

oh so they aren't even suspicious? then you're fine. as long as you meet deadlines with good work, they'll just assume you're using your time wisely
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viewmaster_pi
02/05/22 7:28:15 PM
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dude who makes fun of the people who froze to death last year because they're texan also steals from his job. you're really impressing on all fronts around here

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CanuckCowboy
02/05/22 7:28:24 PM
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Its very dependent on where you work. Ive done all kinds of jobs and most I wouldn't have even had the opportunity, some I did but would get caught eventually, and some I could but didn't.

Then there was Walmart when I was jn my teens where I'd go clock in and work stats for extra pay cause I did it by accident once not realizing I wasn't scheduled and they didn't catch it and just paid me. So I'd go work 4 hours on a stats pretty often and it never came up.

I got away with a lot at that job. I'd spend a half hour each shift getting baked behind the dumpsters.

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Solid Snake07
02/05/22 7:28:27 PM
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Deny it. If they can prove it they're probably already gonna fire you. No reason to give them extra ammo for any potential legal action. If we're talking thousands of dollars you should probably go ahead and research a lawyer.

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OliviaWildThing
02/05/22 7:30:33 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Its very dependent on where you work. Ive done all kinds of jobs and most I wouldn't have even had the opportunity, some I did but would get caught eventually, and some I could but didn't.

Then there was Walmart when I was jn my teens where I'd go clock in and work stats for extra pay cause I did it by accident once not realizing I wasn't scheduled and they didn't catch it and just paid me. So I'd go work 4 hours on a stats pretty often and it never came up.

I got away with a lot at that job. I'd spend a half hour each shift getting baked behind the dumpsters.

wtf is stats

Solid Snake07 posted...
Deny it. If they can prove it they're probably already gonna fire you. No reason to give them extra ammo for any potential legal action. If we're talking thousands of dollars you should probably go ahead and research a lawyer.

yeah generally, make them prove it. Its really hard to do when its minor things like a few min late or extended breaks. If all work is completed, they generally wouldnt bother
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QueenCarly
02/05/22 7:30:45 PM
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Flauros posted...
How about not doing that in the first place?

Wage theft is the single biggest source of theft in the US. Stealing some back is not only fine, it is morally correct to do so.

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CanuckCowboy
02/05/22 7:31:27 PM
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Statutory holidays.

You get paid minimum time and a half or get a paid day off.

Edit-walmart never gave full hours or anything so I didn't get a paid day off. They only have to do it by law if you're working full-time or have more than x number of hours iirc.

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OudeGeuze
02/05/22 7:49:49 PM
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Remember that one time you were shitposting about my ex fiancee dying from lupus, I pointed that out to you, and you continued doing it anyways
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The_Creep_2020
02/05/22 7:51:51 PM
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Whos your employer?

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divot1338
02/05/22 7:51:54 PM
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Dont say shit.

Eventually theyll just tell you what to say or do to make it stop.

Although you do also need to stop doing it as they will watch you like a hawk for awhile.

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Tyranthraxus
02/05/22 7:58:17 PM
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https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

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divot1338
02/05/22 8:04:26 PM
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The thing is they have all kinds of stuff they know for sure and as soon as you say anything they start looking for provable lies.

Just sit there and wait em out.

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Chicken
02/05/22 9:58:21 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Remember that one time you were shitposting about my ex fiancee dying from lupus, I pointed that out to you, and you continued doing it anyways
What? Ive never talked to anyone about lupus, here or literally anywhere else in my whole life.

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Chicken
02/05/22 9:59:00 PM
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divot1338 posted...
The thing is they have all kinds of stuff they know for sure and as soon as you say anything they start looking for provable lies.

Just sit there and wait em out.
Thanks for this and other similar advice in this thread. My lips will be zipped.

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Mr_Karate_II
02/05/22 10:01:18 PM
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I hope you get caught

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