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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 2:39:19 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Megyn lost her job by calling out her boss's sexual harassment that's not even in the same fucking league as this

The show was cancelled in October 2018 after a segment discussing blackface, and she left the network in January 2019.

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What_
02/02/22 2:49:06 AM
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She has shitpile mentality
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ColonizedMind
02/02/22 3:08:54 AM
#53:


Based on her Cobert interview she seems to think of it as a conflict between two sets of white people. When in reality it wasnt a conflict at all, the Nazis were systematically murdering 6 million people for being Jewish.

Reframing it as anything other than that is sinister.
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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 3:39:25 AM
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What a meaningless damage control gesture. Either fire her or dont. Im not even saying she should be fired but putting a 60 year old lady on whats essentially a timeout is absurd.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 3:41:11 AM
#55:


Solid Snake07 posted...
on whats essentially a timeout is absurd.

But aren't you used to this treatment after posting similar conservative shit takes?
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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 3:44:49 AM
#56:


0x4B616E6A6F posted...
But aren't you used to this treatment after posting similar conservative shit takes?


oh look, another(probably banned or suspended) shit posters alt

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008Zulu
02/02/22 3:44:59 AM
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Hoodroar posted...
Whoopi isn't far-left, she hated Bernie's campaign.
Alt-Right Whoopi?
/s

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Glob
02/02/22 3:46:56 AM
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It seems to me that while her comments were ignorant and inappropriate, they don't seem to have come from an intent of malice.

It comes across as she was attempting to say something profound and it wasn't anywhere near as clever as she thought. She should definitely apologise, which I understand she has, but I don't see why anything more is needed.
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Kami_no_Kami
02/02/22 4:00:48 AM
#59:


Why was she on Colbert in 2022?

I feel like its been at least 2 decades since shes been relevant.
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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 4:01:34 AM
#60:


Solid Snake07 posted...
oh look, another(probably banned or suspended) shit posters alt

Progressives get banned, conservatives get timeouts.
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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 4:09:57 AM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
Progressives get banned, conservatives get timeouts.


no, dumbasses who cant help themselves and constantly break simple posting rules get banned.

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Monolith1676
02/02/22 4:17:35 AM
#62:


Remember this from 2011?

"My mother did not name me Whoopi, but Goldberg is my nameit's part of my family, part of my heritage, just like being black" "I just know I am Jewish. I practice nothing. I don't go to temple, but I do remember the holidays."

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Criminalt
02/02/22 4:23:28 AM
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She might be correct in the sense that the Nazi characterization of Jews as a "race" was an artificial construct. In drafting German anti-Jewish laws, it was important for Nazi jurists to define exactly who was and who was not a Jew; and in the end they were forced to fall back upon what was essentially a religious or ethnic definition: anyone whose parents, grandparents, or great-grandparents had been members of a synagogue or any other Jewish religious or community body.

But when the very core of your ideology -- your stratification of humanity into a hierarchy of races, and your division of society along those lines -- is underpinned by pseudo-scientific theories about "race" and biological determinism, it doesn't matter how artificial the construct is or what the facts of race actually are. Your whole mentality is undeniably, fundamentally racist.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 4:29:11 AM
#64:


Solid Snake07 posted...
no, dumbasses who cant help themselves and constantly break simple posting rules get banned.

You're right about people who can't help themselves. I can't help myself from not falling in line with the good ol boys club of a mod staff
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The Sock
02/02/22 4:30:49 AM
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I love Whoopi but goddamn she has said some really dumb shit over the years. I remember when she said that when Cosby raped women it didn't count as "real" rape or something like that. Great actress but also really dumb.

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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 4:34:00 AM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
You're right about people who can't help themselves. I can't help myself from not falling in line with the good ol boys club of a mod staff


or you do dumb shit like going around targeting users who have no idea who you are and trying to annoy them instead of actually even trying to have something to say about the topic youre posting in.

but sure, you being the victim of a mod conspiracy against you is much more plausible, lol. Do you even realize how crazy you sound right now?

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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 4:35:14 AM
#67:


The Sock posted...
I love Whoopi but goddamn she has said some really dumb shit over the years. I remember when she said that when Cosby raped women it didn't count as "real" rape or something like that. Great actress but also really dumb.


which is why shes perfect for the view. She just fucked up and said the wrong stupid thing this time.

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KainFourteh
02/02/22 4:48:50 AM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
You're right about people who can't help themselves. I can't help myself from not falling in line with the good ol boys club of a mod staff
Lol. You seem like a complete tool.

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ColonizedMind
02/02/22 5:00:08 AM
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Lol I never really thought about her last name. Why tf did she pick Goldberg? Why does she insist shes Jewish when she has no Jewish ancestry?

Weird at best, sinister at worst?
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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 5:01:35 AM
#70:


Solid Snake07 posted...
or you do dumb shit like going around targeting users who have no idea who you are and trying to annoy them instead of actually even trying to have something to say about the topic youre posting in.

but sure, you being the victim of a mod conspiracy against you is much more plausible, lol. Do you even realize how crazy you sound right now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000211-sports-and-racing-nfl/79879942

Please see testimonials posted in this thread by other victims of mod bias
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jon davis
02/02/22 5:06:53 AM
#71:


lilORANG posted...
Whoops!

Whoopsie Goldberg.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/02/22 5:50:30 AM
#72:


The Nazis literally referred to themselves as the master race wtf

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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 5:58:03 AM
#73:


0x4B616E6A6F posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000211-sports-and-racing-nfl/79879942

Please see testimonials posted in this thread by other victims of mod bias


so your defense is there are other people who have delusional notions of self importance and think theyre targeted by the mods, therefore youre not also delusional?

alright buddy. You should probably go ahead and make a new alt for the next ban. Shouldnt take very long.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 6:20:01 AM
#74:


Solid Snake07 posted...
so your defense is there are other people who have delusional notions of self importance and think theyre targeted by the mods, therefore youre not also delusional?

alright buddy. You should probably go ahead and make a new alt for the next ban. Shouldnt take very long.

He says while also probably believing Tails is getting picked on by the mods.
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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 6:40:13 AM
#75:


0x4B616E6A6F posted...
He says while also probably believing Tails is getting picked on by the mods.


When you just need to make up shit up cause you've been just getting absolutely verbally annihilated in a fight you picked.

I don't care about tails, rebel, or any other no life having dweeb with that can't take a hint after being banned multiple times.

And wasn't your original point that conservatives don't get banned? Good job proving yourself wrong. Maybe, just maybe you're all being "targeted" cause you have a long history of being terrible posters that they don't want posting here anymore.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 6:42:40 AM
#76:


And wasn't your original point that conservatives don't get banned? Good job proving yourself wrong

They don't. Tails wasn't banned for being a conservative. He was banned for threatening to sue GameFAQs and doxxing people.
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SydneySweenHero
02/02/22 6:43:50 AM
#77:


toreysback posted...
she'll probably just get purg

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I was hoping someone who make this joke lol

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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 6:44:40 AM
#78:


0x4B616E6A6F posted...
They don't. Tails wasn't banned for being a conservative. He was banned for threatening to sue GameFAQs and doxxing people.


Solid Snake07 posted...
Maybe, just maybe you're all being "targeted" cause you have a long history of being terrible posters that they don't want posting here anymore.


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0x4B616E6A6F
02/02/22 6:52:56 AM
#79:


Only you would put progressive takes on the same level as doxxing and filing fake lawsuits.
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Solid Snake07
02/02/22 6:54:42 AM
#80:


0x4B616E6A6F posted...
Only you would put progressive takes on the same level as doxxing and filing fake lawsuits.


I never said that, you did.

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1NfamousACE_2
02/02/22 6:57:09 AM
#81:


Are Jewish people the most protected people in the world?

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ZMythos
02/02/22 7:12:27 AM
#82:


ColdOne666 posted...
Another far left celebrity is exposed as a racist anti semite. I'm shocked i say!
Question: when you take a shit on your keyboard and click post, as is demonstrated in this quote, do your wash or clean it afterwards? Do you buy a new keyboard everytime?

How many shit covered keyboards do you go through in a day?

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The Sock
02/02/22 7:14:20 AM
#83:


I don't think Whoopi is an anti-semite. She's just not all that bright. I mean, she's smart book-wise but she has very little common sense.

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JuanCarlos1
02/02/22 7:48:23 AM
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Dont think it was an ill intended comment. Maybe ignorant, but nothing as bad like right wingers comparing the whole pandemic mandates with Nazi germany

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BlackMcCoy
02/02/22 7:54:48 AM
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*People* REALLY seem to understand racial offensiveness when it's committed by a black person

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Criminalt
02/02/22 7:56:03 AM
#86:


The Sock posted...
I don't think Whoopi is an anti-semite. She's just not all that bright. I mean, she's smart book-wise but she has very little common sense.
Yeah, I suspect she made a shot at sounding wise and profound, but instead fell short at the jump and plummeted into the depths of dumbassery.

She seems to have thought: "You can't tell Jews and non-Jewish Germans apart just by looking at them, so these racial differences weren't real". Yet she's struggled to grasp the simple, commonsense notion that even if Nazi "racial" beliefs were based on nonsense, on pseudo-science, on old prejudices dolled up in modern fancy dress, their "racial" ideology mattered profoundly and it motivated and underpinned a genocide.

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The Sock
02/02/22 7:57:09 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Dont think it was an ill intended comment. Maybe ignorant, but nothing as bad like right wingers comparing the whole pandemic mandates with Nazi germany

Yeah, her comment she made years ago when she said that when Cosby raped women it didn't count as "rape rape" was a lot worse, but for some reason the outcry for that wasn't nearly as bad as this. The media talked about it for like a couple of days and that was it and people quickly forgot about it. I bet that comment is going to be replayed a lot now though.

Criminalt posted...
Yeah, I suspect she made a shot at sounding wise and profound, but instead fell short at the jump and plummeted into the depths of dumbassery.

She seems to have thought: "You can't tell Jews and non-Jewish Germans apart just by looking at them, so these racial differences weren't real". Yet she's struggled to grasp the simple, commonsense notion that even if Nazi "racial" beliefs were based on nonsense, on pseudo-science, on old prejudices dolled up in modern fancy dress, their "racial" ideology mattered profoundly and it motivated and underpinned a genocide.

Yup.

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Nukazie
02/02/22 7:57:32 AM
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Whoopi in purgatory

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ColonizedMind
02/02/22 8:02:49 AM
#89:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Are Jewish people the most protected people in the world?

Not in the 1940s we werent.
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ThyCorndog
02/02/22 8:13:15 AM
#90:


Criminalt posted...
She seems to have thought: "You can't tell Jews and non-Jewish Germans apart just by looking at them, so these racial differences weren't real". Yet she's struggled to grasp the simple, commonsense notion that even if Nazi "racial" beliefs were based on nonsense, on pseudo-science, on old prejudices dolled up in modern fancy dress, their "racial" ideology mattered profoundly and it motivated and underpinned a genocide.
This basically is how race works in general. It's the perceived differences that underpin it all. It doesn't matter if it's based on nonsense or not. That's why it's called a social construct. To the nazis, the made-up "aryan race" was above all others

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Tyranthraxus
02/02/22 8:29:00 AM
#91:


ThyCorndog posted...
This basically is how race works in general. It's the perceived differences that underpin it all. It doesn't matter if it's based on nonsense or not. That's why it's called a social construct. To the nazis, the made-up "aryan race" was above all others

And to highlight just how nonsense it all is, the historical Aryans aren't white. They're Arabic/Indian.

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ThyCorndog
02/02/22 8:36:03 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
And to highlight just how nonsense it all is, the historical Aryans aren't white. They're Arabic/Indian.
Persian/Indian but yes
Iran is derived from the same root word as aryan

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Criminalt
02/02/22 8:42:59 AM
#93:


Tyranthraxus posted...
And to highlight just how nonsense it all is, the historical Aryans aren't white. They're Arabic/Indian.
I'll bet you someone asks, "Why did the Nazis glorify the Aryans, then?" without stopping to think that maybe the Nazis were more intrigued by pseudo-history and myth than actual history.

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1NfamousACE_2
02/02/22 8:44:03 AM
#94:


ColonizedMind posted...
Not in the 1940s we werent.

good thing Im talking about today

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ColonizedMind
02/02/22 8:59:10 AM
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Yeah they had people like you in the 1930s too.
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1NfamousACE_2
02/02/22 9:10:55 AM
#96:


ColonizedMind posted...
Yeah they had people like you in the 1930s too.

I know there were blacks in the 30s

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ColonizedMind
02/02/22 9:14:12 AM
#97:


You say that like it makes you immune from being ignorant.
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Sayoria
02/02/22 9:14:31 AM
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She probably thinks of Asians being white too. I mean, they have light skin.

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1NfamousACE_2
02/02/22 9:33:02 AM
#99:


ColonizedMind posted...
You say that like it makes you immune from being ignorant.

Its ignorant to ask a question?


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Criminalt
02/02/22 11:58:24 AM
#100:


Having read a little more about the comments during the interview and her apologies, I think she was just mind-numbingly inept at articulating what she wanted to convey.

What she seems to have wanted to convey is that people will invent any absurd fiction to justify monstrous behaviour towards other groups of people. For her, because it's self-evidently absurd that Jews constituted a separate race, it meant the Holocaust wasn't "really" about race after all -- because Nazi racial theories were built on lies. Maybe I'm being charitable, but that's the hint I'm getting from her words.

But again, the point: even if race might not be real, racism is. It's not necessary for something to be an objective biological fact in order for someone to believe wholeheartedly that it is, and to build policies and practices upon that belief -- and commit horrific crimes in its name.

Most atheists, for example, wouldn't be so stupid as to say that religious conflicts aren't really religious conflicts after all, on account of sectarian differences being artificial and meaningless because God does not, in fact exist.

I think the worst that she's guilty of so far is hairsplitting, nitpicking, and failing to see the wood for the trees. The suspension was maybe necessary but I don't think sacking is.


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