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refmon
01/22/22 10:49:39 PM
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https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/590838-house-committee-in-florida-passes-dont-say-gay-bill

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DarthAragorn
01/22/22 10:51:48 PM
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Fuck Republicans and anyone who supports them, this is fucking absurd

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Strider102
01/22/22 10:52:10 PM
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Fuck Florida

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ghettoraider81
01/22/22 10:54:14 PM
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This bill is about defending the most awesome responsibility a person can have: being a parent, Florida state Rep. Joe Harding (R), who first introduced the bill, said Thursday. That job can only be given to you by above.

Any fucking politician that say anything about God when discussing law should be barred.

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Heartomaton
01/22/22 10:54:18 PM
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Definitely terrible that some people who are objectively on the wrong side of history and actively hold back social evolution have so much power and authority.

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Jiek_Fafn
01/22/22 10:56:12 PM
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Republicans think if you say "gay" three times in a mirror, you'll summon them. Best to completely eliminate the possibility. /s

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SauI_Goodman
01/22/22 10:58:25 PM
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the way this bill is phrased i thought this was going to be some kind of good thing. welp. that's unfortunate.

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Mizznox
01/22/22 10:58:26 PM
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This and the "don't teach anything that might make white people uncomfortable" bill... how much more mask-off can it get?

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DarthAragorn
01/22/22 10:59:45 PM
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Mizznox posted...
This and the "don't teach anything that might make white people uncomfortable" bill... how much more mask-off can it get?
Much like the covid shit, they don't even wear masks

They're straight up bigoted assholes that should be barred from ever having any influence ever again

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FortuneCookie
01/22/22 11:06:18 PM
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I hate to see this.
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Zikten
01/22/22 11:07:02 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
Any fucking politician that say anything about God when discussing law should be barred.

1000% agreed

When they bring up God it's a red flag to me
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GrandConjuraton
01/22/22 11:08:43 PM
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Zikten posted...
1000% agreed

When they bring up God it's a red flag to me
As a Christian, I can agree wholeheartedly with this.

These people are clowns and should be treated as such, and it's unfortunate that that isn't the case.

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Frolex
01/22/22 11:21:48 PM
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you see the only problem with DADT was that it didn't apply to civilians too

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Spiritlittle
01/22/22 11:22:52 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Fuck Republicans and anyone who supports them, this is fucking absurd


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Medussa
01/22/22 11:24:47 PM
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every day that passes, i get more and more relieved that my job opportunity in florida fell through. now, if only my parents would stay there instead of just doing the snowbird thing.

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Looked gf
01/22/22 11:25:13 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
this is fucking absurd


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Kim_Seong-a
01/22/22 11:29:00 PM
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prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that require school district personnel to withhold from a parent specified information or encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information;

This reads to me like "if a gay kid confides to you in confidence, you're not allowed to hide it from their abusive parents"

Here are the bills in question, if anybody wants to bang their head against a wall

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/Filed/PDF

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1834/BillText/Filed/PDF


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Axiom
01/22/22 11:29:32 PM
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Texas and Florida are determined to prove the south is the best at being the worst
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Xethuminra
01/22/22 11:46:41 PM
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I haven't really been following this, so I don't know the details, but leaving the discussion entirely out of schools for children (elementary, maybe middle school) seems like it might be right. I'm also not entirely convinced that the discussion belongs in high schools, based on my personal experience at least. Social pressure tends to factor into development. Giving teachers & mentors to really young kids a platform to stand on & exude influence.... Is that a great idea, or should we just leave it between the kids, parents, and their peers?

What i see is a lot of high schoolers even totally failing to take advantage of the tools being afforded to them.... To date. I'm not sure stuff like prom is even appropriate. Okay, well, prom maybe, but the idea of freshman and middle schoolers looking for a date to a school dance is a little disturbing to me. Always has been. It's not just about LGBT rights. We need a system that encourages kids to develop into strong, smart people under minimimal pressure, and not jump the gun on their sexuality and prematurely establishing a sexual identity in public.

..... Tho I bet this "bill" doesn't address that
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greyfox747
01/22/22 11:48:53 PM
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Well, that was an exceptionally shitty post

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Kim_Seong-a
01/22/22 11:53:04 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
I'm also not entirely convinced that the discussion belongs in high schools,

From the article

A separate report from the Trevor Project found that LGBTQ+ youth who learned about LGBTQ+ people or issues in school had 23 percent lower odds of reporting a suicide attempt in the last year.

Among middle and high school LGBTQ+ students, 19 percent who reported never learning about LGBTQ+ issues or people in school attempted suicide in the last year compared to 16 percent of students who had received LGBTQ+-related lessons.

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Robot2600
01/22/22 11:53:13 PM
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in a normal world the supreme court would strike this down. a teacher should be able to say

  1. they are gay/bi/queer
  2. that there is nothing wrong with being gay/bi/queer, no matter what anyone says
  3. that lgbtq+ ppl exist
based on the federal mandate. this shit is just disgusting. republicans know of nothing but hate and ignorance.

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Xethuminra
01/22/22 11:58:25 PM
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Post 29 & 30 are interesting.

.... does this prevent teachers and administrators and school counselors from being able to do their job and address bullying?

And yeah, having this sort of thing in place for high school sounds..... complicated if not intolerant. One of the two. Both
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Ruvan22
01/23/22 12:00:35 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
I haven't really been following this, so I don't know the details, but leaving the discussion entirely out of schools for children (elementary, maybe middle school) seems like it might be right. I'm also not entirely convinced that the discussion belongs in high schools, based on my personal experience at least. Social pressure tends to factor into development. Giving teachers & mentors to really young kids a platform to stand on & exude influence.... Is that a great idea, or should we just leave it between the kids, parents, and their peers?

What i see is a lot of high schoolers even totally failing to take advantage of the tools being afforded to them.... To date. I'm not sure stuff like prom is even appropriate. Okay, well, prom maybe, but the idea of freshman and middle schoolers looking for a date to a school dance is a little disturbing to me. Always has been. It's not just about LGBT rights. We need a system that encourages kids to develop into strong, smart people under minimimal pressure, and not jump the gun on their sexuality and prematurely establishing a sexual identity in public.

..... Tho I bet this "bill" doesn't address that

By "discussion", are you saying that ANY acknowledgment of non heterosexuality should be scrubbed? So every instance of a couple a high schooler sees or reads about is a man and a woman?
If so, how is this different from excluding ANY depictions or acknowledgement of interacial/biracial couples? In that we shouldn't encourage kids to think of dating outside their race, but wait till they are mature enough to make "proper" decisions?

Also, as the article points out, areas with open discussions have lower rates of LGBQT teen suicides, so it seems students ARE taking advantage of the resources. Why do away with that?
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Mr_Karate_II
01/23/22 12:01:23 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
I haven't really been following this, so I don't know the details, but leaving the discussion entirely out of schools for children (elementary, maybe middle school) seems like it might be right. I'm also not entirely convinced that the discussion belongs in high schools, based on my personal experience at least. Social pressure tends to factor into development. Giving teachers & mentors to really young kids a platform to stand on & exude influence.... Is that a great idea, or should we just leave it between the kids, parents, and their peers?

What i see is a lot of high schoolers even totally failing to take advantage of the tools being afforded to them.... To date. I'm not sure stuff like prom is even appropriate. Okay, well, prom maybe, but the idea of freshman and middle schoolers looking for a date to a school dance is a little disturbing to me. Always has been. It's not just about LGBT rights. We need a system that encourages kids to develop into strong, smart people under minimimal pressure, and not jump the gun on their sexuality and prematurely establishing a sexual identity in public.

..... Tho I bet this "bill" doesn't address that
Can you not defend this shitty bill?

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Looked gf
01/23/22 12:03:06 AM
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Little Timmy's parents are gonna have to stop coming to school otherwise his classmates might be curious and start asking questions

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Xethuminra
01/23/22 12:03:13 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Agreed.

Mr_Karate_II posted...
Can you not defend this shitty bill?
I can ask questions.
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DarthAragorn
01/23/22 12:05:39 AM
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OVERGOATED posted...
Going to get people killed what the fuck florida
These politicians don't think LGBTQ+ people are people.

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Xethuminra
01/23/22 12:05:46 AM
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Compare with: Religion
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Heartomaton
01/23/22 12:05:52 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
in a normal world the supreme court would strike this down.

In the unlikely event that my presidential aspirations turn out well, I'll definitely come down on shit like this like the fist of an angry god. Or, failing that, I'll do my best to make life hell for the backwards-ass imbeciles who even try to pass this crap.

I admit that I'm not entirely sure what if any power I'd have to do the former, but there would be no real way to stop me from doing the latter.

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Guerrilla Soldier
01/23/22 12:08:04 AM
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I thought free speech was an important part of what makes America...America. Why are teachers being muzzled?

we're also the largest country in manufacturing and distributing muzzles

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Sir Will
01/23/22 12:14:11 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Fuck Republicans and anyone who supports them, this is fucking absurd


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Xethuminra
01/23/22 12:14:18 AM
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I wanna say that there should be different rules for high schools, but I'm just not sure.
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pegusus123456
01/23/22 12:17:29 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
I wanna say that there should be different rules for high schools, but I'm just not sure.
Shut the fuck up.

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Xethuminra
01/23/22 12:21:50 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...

Aight
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greyfox747
01/23/22 12:22:21 AM
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Youre still not shutting the fuck up

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Zikten
01/23/22 1:17:35 AM
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You can't make someone gay. You either are, or you aren't. Nobody gets talked into being gay. And gay people don't have some secret plan to make others gay
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