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PowerOats
01/21/22 9:06:08 PM
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But Pokemon games look like GameCube alpha tests?
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DarthAragorn
01/21/22 9:07:01 PM
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Gamefreak sucks ass is how

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bnui_ransder
01/21/22 9:17:21 PM
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"They will buy it regardless"

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Questionmarktarius
01/21/22 9:17:48 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Gamefreak sucks ass is how

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BakonBitz
01/21/22 9:20:07 PM
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It's because of Gamefreak. They've been cruising by using underpowered handheld tech so now with a console that is remotely HD they're struggling to have good visuals and make it run competently.

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refmon
01/21/22 9:41:01 PM
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bnui_ransder posted...
"They will buy it regardless"
This, doesn't make sense to put in effort when you know your fanbase will accept anything

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NoxObscuras
01/21/22 9:42:30 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Gamefreak sucks ass is how
This. Look at what kind of environments Xenoblade Chronicles was able to have on the Wii. The Switch is way more powerful than that console was. It's a developer issue.

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K181
01/21/22 9:59:44 PM
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Because different developers.

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FurryPhilosifer
01/21/22 10:02:53 PM
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Game Freak is a small studio (in terms of # of employees) that's never made anything but technically lacking games. There's a weird revisionist history where people act like games like Pokemon b/w or hg/ss were impressive at the time. Sprite scaling was not "woah!" on the Nintendo DS, let alone in fucking 2010. Not to say the sprite art did or didn't look good (although it got ripped apart at the time for looking terrible, but people forget that part too).

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spikethedevil
01/21/22 10:10:03 PM
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Sword and Shield look better than any GCN game bar 1 or 2 that I assume used black magic to look like PS3 era games.

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Awakened_Link
01/22/22 11:39:14 PM
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Idk, Legends looks pretty good to me.

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Irony
01/22/22 11:43:47 PM
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Define run flawlessly because Smash Ultimate has atrocious input lag

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Delirious_Beard
01/22/22 11:46:21 PM
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BoTW does not run flawlessly in fairness.

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InfinityMonster
01/22/22 11:46:23 PM
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I wouldn't say flawlessly, but there's obviously a difference in philosophy between GF and Nintendo, and both rely on being cheap.

Nintendo will take their sweet fucking time to release something. GF couldn't give 2 shits because they not only have an army of Nintendo fanboys, but also Pokemon being huge with casuals that don't care.

But they obviously knew Arceus was worse than their usual effort. Hence the January release.

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FelineCyborg
01/22/22 11:49:18 PM
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effort. imo odyssey is the only game nintendo has released on switch with effort. everything else was from wii u. they mustve blew their load hard on wii u era since they are recycling all of stuff on switch. wouldnt be suprised if odyssey started out as a wii u title.

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FurryPhilosifer
01/24/22 1:32:13 AM
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InfinityMonster posted...
GF couldn't give 2 s***s because they not only have an army of Nintendo fanboys, but also Pokemon being huge with casuals that don't care.
More like GF doesn't have a choice because they need to release games on a schedule with the anime and new merchandise. The Pokemon Company won't let the entire system just pause without new material for a few years while GF works on a game, especially when the games sell well regardless.

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Dakimakura
01/24/22 1:35:33 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
effort. imo odyssey is the only game nintendo has released on switch with effort. everything else was from wii u. they mustve blew their load hard on wii u era since they are recycling all of stuff on switch. wouldnt be suprised if odyssey started out as a wii u title.


It is because no one except the most devout Nintendo fanboys bought a Wii U, but the switch is incredibly popular so it is like these games are new to most of the audience.

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FurryPhilosifer
01/24/22 1:39:30 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
It is because no one except the most devout Nintendo fanboys bought a Wii U, but the switch is incredibly popular so it is like these games are new to most of the audience.
Ironically, as someone who was devoted enough to buy a Wii U, the Switch is probably the most disillusioned I've ever been with Nintendo.

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MICHALECOLE
01/24/22 1:40:37 AM
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You should see the cutscenes for nba 2k21

Jesus theyre so bad its crazy
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Glob
01/24/22 1:51:54 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
It is because no one except the most devout Nintendo fanboys bought a Wii U, but the switch is incredibly popular so it is like these games are new to most of the audience.

Exactly. It's all new on switch for me.
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InfinityMonster
01/24/22 1:58:18 AM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
More like GF doesn't have a choice because they need to release games on a schedule with the anime and new merchandise. The Pokemon Company won't let the entire system just pause without new material for a few years while GF works on a game, especially when the games sell well regardless.
There's no reason they had to release Arceus this early. Like, they literally followed their usual plan and a remake like BDSP is considered a 1-2 year "generation".

They had till next November to work on it at the very least or outsource Let's Go Johto or whatever for 2022 and then release it in 2023. The other stuff doesn't track because everything can easily be attributed to BDSP outside new forms since it's all from Gen 4.

Like, Nintendo knows the drill, and the only people aside from GF themselves they answer to is Nintendo. Nintendo is probably the first people to understand good shit takes time, especially if you're trying to be thrifty.

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GameofWheels
01/24/22 2:16:12 AM
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Nintendo needs to take Pokemon away from Gamefreak if they're just going to half ass it like this. I was looking forward to Arceus but it looks pathetic compared to every other Nintendo exclusive.

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viewmaster_pi
01/24/22 2:19:31 AM
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GameofWheels posted...
Nintendo needs to take Pokemon away from Gamefreak if they're just going to half ass it like this.
won't happen even if it should, because 99% of the people, complaining or not, buy every single nintendo game. bad buzz probably doesn't even reach anyone who could care. execs laugh and roll their eyes

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Kim_Seong-a
01/24/22 2:24:32 AM
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To be fair, the Switch also runs Skatebird

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/3/AAe6eNAAC14h.jpg

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GameofWheels
01/24/22 2:32:22 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
won't happen even if it should, because 99% of the people, complaining or not, buy every single nintendo game. bad buzz probably doesn't even reach anyone who could care. execs laugh and roll their eyes
People need to start voting with their wallets then cause I haven't bought a single Switch Pokemon on game. The last I bought was Ultra Sun/Moon.

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viewmaster_pi
01/24/22 2:34:49 AM
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GameofWheels posted...
People need to start voting with their wallets then cause I haven't bought a single Switch Pokemon on game. The last I bought was Ultra Sun/Moon.
same, and i never actually got to playing it lol

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Nukazie
01/24/22 2:35:26 AM
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bnui_ransder posted...
"They will buy it regardless"


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ColdOne666
01/24/22 3:01:21 AM
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TC has to be trolling, Botw does not run flawlessly.

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Slayer_22
01/24/22 3:20:26 AM
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PowerOats posted...
But Pokemon games look like GameCube alpha tests?

You know what's funny? I've seen a single image showing how apparently bad the game looks, but I've yet to see any gameplay videos of this same location.

It's almost as if someone got into the debug areas or managed to throw the game onto an emulator.

Notice in the screenshot there isn't even a tree. Plus, the lighting looks like the many times I've glitched out games(my favorite being the time I broke the sky box in Miles Morales on PS4 so it was pitch black all around the skyline and the lighting looked weirdly ominous)

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spikethedevil
01/24/22 5:57:27 AM
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It looks pretty damn good in the videos Ive seen and considering piracy is the only way to play it right now.

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legendarylemur
01/24/22 6:04:41 AM
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I don't think anybody thinks BW1/2 are technical marvels. It's honestly more the fact that there were clear effort involved, and they were honestly one of the best sprite workers in the industry. The biggest problem is almost none of that translated to their 3D efforts. There were so much outsourcing and general incompetence that was born from extremely late adoption. There was no guarantee that this company was gonna be good at 3D development, and lo and behold, they sucked ass since the 3DS days.

Also they initially got Genius Sorority to pick up the 3D slack, and Genius Sorority had a lot more talent in 3D back then than Gamefreak does now lmao. But it's unclear as to why they weren't allowed to create full on 3D campaigns ever since XD. Instead ever since then, they mostly ended up doing 2D puzzle games. Unclear as to whether or not GF took in some of the people but... it doesn't make sense they suck that much if they did, because Genius Sorority's Battle Revolution ended up looking more impressive than SwSh.

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Kisai
01/24/22 6:07:05 AM
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My only issue with Sword & Shield is the weird giant gimmick that shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.

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Irony
01/24/22 7:43:33 AM
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GameofWheels posted...
Nintendo needs to take Pokemon away from Gamefreak if they're just going to half ass it like this. I was looking forward to Arceus but it looks pathetic compared to every other Nintendo exclusive.
Nintendo doesn't have much a say concerning that because Pokemon is joint owned by 3 companies.

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FurryPhilosifer
01/24/22 5:38:28 PM
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Irony posted...
Nintendo doesn't have much a say concerning that because Pokemon is joint owned by 3 companies.
This. Game Freak is a third party developer who owns Pokemon along with Nintendo and Creatures. Nintendo isn't "in charge" of Pokemon anymore than Game Freak themselves are.

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Alpha218
01/24/22 5:47:58 PM
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Kisai posted...
My only issue with Sword & Shield is the weird giant gimmick that shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
You might as well accept that every generation going forward is going to have a gimmick. Mega Evolution, Z-moves, and now Dynamax. At least Dmax feeds into the wild area and VGC meta.

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Octans
01/24/22 6:01:02 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
same, and i never actually got to playing it lol

GameofWheels posted...
People need to start voting with their wallets then cause I haven't bought a single Switch Pokemon on game. The last I bought was Ultra Sun/Moon.
I know it sucks but they don't care. They realistically aren't trying to sell Pokemon to people for life. Your time is done; new little kids are turning 6yo every single day, ready for pokemon.

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