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Zodd3224 01/25/22 8:52:34 AM #51:	Vegeta is what makes the show interesting. If he died at the end of the Saiyan Saga he wouldn't have been very interesting and the show would have suffered immensely. His long term change from villain to uneasy alliance to jealous rival to hero was over such a long stretch it felt earned. --- https://imgur.com/a/X14Jka4 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:962059171] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Vegeta is what makes the show interesting. If he died at the end of the Saiyan Saga he wouldn't have been very interesting and the show would have suffered immensely. His long term change from villain to uneasy alliance to jealous rival to hero was over such a long stretch it felt earned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 01/26/22 10:14:51 PM #52:	yusiko posted... i know a guy who insists goku was a good father just because he loved his family all the examples of him being a bad father dont count because he loves his family he also thinks chichi is a bad mom because she made gohan study when he didnt want to this is the opinion of a grown ass man O_o He probably also hates skyler for trying to stop walt from cooking meth and hates rita for distracting dexter from killing people, etc. Just sounds like he's one of those people. <cite>Noumas posted [p:962109914] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>yusiko posted... </cite> <quote>i know a guy who insists goku was a good father just because he loved his family all the examples of him being a bad father dont count because he loves his family he also thinks chichi is a bad mom because she made gohan study when he didnt want to this is the opinion of a grown ass man O_o</quote>He probably also hates skyler for trying to stop walt from cooking meth and hates rita for distracting dexter from killing people, etc. Just sounds like he's one of those people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 01/26/22 10:17:43 PM #53:	My bad Superman still stronger than Goku, family irrelevant --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:962109989] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>My bad Superman still stronger than Goku, family irrelevant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 01/28/22 11:34:31 PM #54:	Zodd3224 posted... Vegeta is what makes the show interesting. If he died at the end of the Saiyan Saga he wouldn't have been very interesting and the show would have suffered immensely. His long term change from villain to uneasy alliance to jealous rival to hero was over such a long stretch it felt earned. The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962169712] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>Vegeta is what makes the show interesting. If he died at the end of the Saiyan Saga he wouldn't have been very interesting and the show would have suffered immensely. His long term change from villain to uneasy alliance to jealous rival to hero was over such a long stretch it felt earned.</quote>The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 01/28/22 11:46:27 PM #55:	Noumas posted... The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? I think holding off Majin buu so goku could charge the spirit bomb was pretty good to pay off his debt. Also final explosion even though it failed it was still self sacrifice. Also didn't he save goku from android 19? Can't remember --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:962169953] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed?</quote> I think holding off Majin buu so goku could charge the spirit bomb was pretty good to pay off his debt. Also final explosion even though it failed it was still self sacrifice. Also didn't he save goku from android 19? Can't remember </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nasty_Nitro 01/28/22 11:50:15 PM #56:	LinkDaLunatic posted... none of that shit ever made sense. it was pure conjecture on their part. what were they even basing it on? welp, goku became super saiyan and he's nice, so i guess only nice saiyans can become super saiyans a-hyuck! it was never part of the original legend they'd heard about on namek. I think part of the theme of Dragon Ball Z/Super is that legends can always be defied if you train hard enough. --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:962169999] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite> <quote>none of that shit ever made sense. it was pure conjecture on their part. what were they even basing it on? welp, goku became super saiyan and he's nice, so i guess only nice saiyans can become super saiyans a-hyuck! it was never part of the original legend they'd heard about on namek.</quote> I think part of the theme of Dragon Ball Z/Super is that legends can always be defied if you train hard enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GS4Life 01/29/22 12:04:39 AM #57:	NatsuSama posted... Goku is a shitty husband and father. In fact he's a shitty all around individual. Him being a shitty individual was stated by Toriyama to be intentional. Super was his way of correcting what the anime team falsely branded Goku into. Which Toriyama wanted him to NOT be a hero. In my opinion, even before Super and despite the animes attempted branding he's always not been a hero. As a kid I never questioned it, but in retrospect his actions in DragonBall Z are as selfish and non hero like as shit IMO. Goku happily and knowingly did the same shit he does in Super. If it meant he could have fun, he really didn't care about the consequences to everyone else. why can he ride the Nimbus again? --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Get Well Soon Bayley, Buena Fortuna! <cite>GS4Life posted [p:962170253] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>NatsuSama posted... </cite> <quote>Goku is a shitty husband and father. In fact he's a shitty all around individual. Him being a shitty individual was stated by Toriyama to be intentional. Super was his way of correcting what the anime team falsely branded Goku into. Which Toriyama wanted him to NOT be a hero. In my opinion, even before Super and despite the animes attempted branding he's always not been a hero. As a kid I never questioned it, but in retrospect his actions in DragonBall Z are as selfish and non hero like as shit IMO. Goku happily and knowingly did the same shit he does in Super. If it meant he could have fun, he really didn't care about the consequences to everyone else.</quote>why can he ride the Nimbus again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 01/29/22 12:05:06 AM #58:	vegeta might be 'normal' in the head unlike goku --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. https://imgur.com/a/LEjr0RZ waifu courtesy of bnui_ransder <cite>Nukazie posted [p:962170260] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>vegeta might be 'normal' in the head unlike goku </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 01/29/22 12:12:00 AM #59:	The domestic scenes/banter are by far the best part about Super. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:962170379] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>The domestic scenes/banter are by far the best part about Super. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 01/29/22 12:25:51 AM #60:	Goku: "Go home and be a family man!" --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:962170603] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Goku: "Go home and be a family man!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChildOfHades 01/29/22 12:28:57 AM #61:	Noumas posted... The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? It was mentioned earlier, but he fought against Moro to protect the Namekians, and specifically said it was to make up for what he did to them in the past. Anyway, Vegeta's character development is the very few consistently good things about Super. <cite>ChildOfHades posted [p:962170663] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted...</cite> <quote> The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? </quote> It was mentioned earlier, but he fought against Moro to protect the Namekians, and specifically said it was to make up for what he did to them in the past. Anyway, Vegeta's character development is the very few consistently good things about Super.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 01/29/22 12:34:11 AM #62:	Vegeta has been a better character than Goku since the Frieza saga. He scratched and clawed to try and maintain his evil ways, but ultimately he relented to being a good guy. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:962170761] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Vegeta has been a better character than Goku since the Frieza saga. He scratched and clawed to try and maintain his evil ways, but ultimately he relented to being a good guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 01/29/22 12:57:53 AM #63:	Kain Highwind posted... has Gohan been redeemed in Super yet? Gohan died during the Buu saga and was replaced with a nerd --- http://i.imgur.com/QfpP05s.png http://i.imgur.com/vdnZ1o6.png http://i.imgur.com/zTgf822.png <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:962171171] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Kain Highwind posted... </cite> <quote>has Gohan been redeemed in Super yet?</quote>Gohan died during the Buu saga and was replaced with a nerd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 01/31/22 6:07:12 AM #64:	Why would Gohan need to be redeemed though? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962234061] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Why would Gohan need to be redeemed though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 01/31/22 7:38:48 AM #65:	I kind of feel that Gohans character was better in GT than in Super. Yeah, he was a nerd, but it made sense as there were less reasons to fight; and he was always a nerd in the show, even when he was a child he wanted to become an Orthopedist. Sadly, Gokus character got much worse in Super. Again, I liked him better in GT. GT, yeah he was more playful, but he wasn't an outright moron. Yeah, some parts of the show were worse than Super, but other parts were far better. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:962234983] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>I kind of feel that Gohans character was better in GT than in Super. Yeah, he was a nerd, but it made sense as there were less reasons to fight; and he was always a nerd in the show, even when he was a child he wanted to become an Orthopedist. Sadly, Gokus character got much worse in Super. Again, I liked him better in GT. GT, yeah he was more playful, but he wasn't an outright moron. Yeah, some parts of the show were worse than Super, but other parts were far better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sparky2658 01/31/22 8:25:20 AM #66:	GS4Life posted... why can he ride the Nimbus again? Not for the reasons you think..... Pure heart =/= not selfish or great person. Pure heart just speaks more to being an open book to one's motives. Gokus actions literally are not those of a hero. The Young Justice series actually put a spin on the "pure hearted" misconception as well with a twist of one of its villains. Even pretending to fall on thinking it meant he has values of a good person, his actions speak far louder. His actions show he values his own fun over the innocent lives of people, universes, and his own family and friends. He is willing to happily get them killed so long as he can have fun fighting. The importance of their well being is an afterthought to his fun. Intentions may be pure in the sense he's not hiding his motives, however its definitely not actions of a good person who isn't selfish. <cite>sparky2658 posted [p:962235605] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>GS4Life posted... </cite> <quote>why can he ride the Nimbus again?</quote>Not for the reasons you think..... Pure heart =/= not selfish or great person. Pure heart just speaks more to being an open book to one's motives. Gokus actions literally are not those of a hero. The Young Justice series actually put a spin on the "pure hearted" misconception as well with a twist of one of its villains. Even pretending to fall on thinking it meant he has values of a good person, his actions speak far louder. His actions show he values his own fun over the innocent lives of people, universes, and his own family and friends. He is willing to happily get them killed so long as he can have fun fighting. The importance of their well being is an afterthought to his fun. Intentions may be pure in the sense he's not hiding his motives, however its definitely not actions of a good person who isn't selfish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 01/31/22 8:28:19 AM #67:	GS4Life posted... why can he ride the Nimbus again? Bad writing. Krillin in the original DB couldn't ride nimbus (except in a filler scene). Honestly Goku and Krillin's ability to ride it should be switched. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:962235637] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>GS4Life posted... </cite> <quote>why can he ride the Nimbus again?</quote>Bad writing. Krillin in the original DB couldn't ride nimbus (except in a filler scene). Honestly Goku and Krillin's ability to ride it should be switched. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/31/22 10:26:27 AM #68:	Noumas posted... The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed? He showed quite a bit of remorse for his crimes against the Namekians during the Moro arc in the manga. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:962237727] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, has he ever even apologized or paid his debt to society for the crimes and atrocities he's committed?</quote>He showed quite a bit of remorse for his crimes against the Namekians during the Moro arc in the manga. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/01/22 11:48:02 PM #69:	Solar_Crimson posted... He showed quite a bit of remorse for his crimes against the Namekians during the Moro arc in the manga. They should put that in the show too <cite>Noumas posted [p:962290080] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>He showed quite a bit of remorse for his crimes against the Namekians during the Moro arc in the manga.</quote>They should put that in the show too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Indoril 02/01/22 11:52:52 PM #70:	yusiko posted... i know a guy who insists goku was a good father just because he loved his family all the examples of him being a bad father dont count because he loves his family he also thinks chichi is a bad mom because she made gohan study when he didnt want to this is the opinion of a grown ass man O_o I mean, youre a grown ass man who thinks Gavi wasnt a terrible person just because you found him good looking --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Indoril posted [p:962290174] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>yusiko posted... </cite> <quote>i know a guy who insists goku was a good father just because he loved his family all the examples of him being a bad father dont count because he loves his family he also thinks chichi is a bad mom because she made gohan study when he didnt want to this is the opinion of a grown ass man O_o</quote>I mean, youre a grown ass man who thinks Gavi wasnt a terrible person just because you found him good looking </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/03/22 1:08:20 PM #71:	Noumas posted... They should put that in the show too The Dragon Ball Super anime has to come back first. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:962333073] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>They should put that in the show too</quote>The Dragon Ball Super anime has to come back first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 02/03/22 2:44:28 PM #72:	Noumas posted... Ok, then has he ever repaid his debt to society for all the people he killed and the city he destroyed? I would imagine that saving the world multiple times would count. Also, isn't Vegeta the one who wished everyone back that Buu killed? --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:962335738] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>Ok, then has he ever repaid his debt to society for all the people he killed and the city he destroyed?</quote>I would imagine that saving the world multiple times would count. Also, isn't Vegeta the one who wished everyone back that Buu killed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/04/22 11:51:01 PM #73:	Solar_Crimson posted... The Dragon Ball Super anime has to come back first. Is it not ongoing though? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962378214] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>The Dragon Ball Super anime has to come back first.</quote>Is it not ongoing though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 02/05/22 12:09:28 AM #74:	ChildOfHades posted... Anyway, Vegeta's character development is the very few consistently good things about Super. Except for the ~~Ultra Ego~~ part, I cringed hard. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:962378575] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>ChildOfHades posted... </cite> <quote>Anyway, Vegeta's character development is the very few consistently good things about Super.</quote>Except for the Ultra Ego part, I cringed hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 02/05/22 12:10:54 AM #75:	Was he doing it right the whole time? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:962378600] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Was he doing it right the whole time? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/06/22 11:24:12 PM #76:	https://youtu.be/3g2udCCTG Its still just so weird to me. A vegeta who doesn't want to threaten people? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962427743] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/3g2udCCTG Its still just so weird to me. A vegeta who doesn't want to threaten people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/09/22 2:19:39 AM #77:	https://youtu.be/saajmTpDLc0 And tsudenre too? You can't have a grown man be a tsundere <cite>Noumas posted [p:962486681] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/saajmTpDLc0 And tsudenre too? You can't have a grown man be a tsundere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 02/09/22 2:39:07 AM #78:	How do you watch Super these days (Dubbed is preferable) do you need to sub to some site, i don't watch anime so have no idea. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:962486878] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>How do you watch Super these days (Dubbed is preferable) do you need to sub to some site, i don't watch anime so have no idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/10/22 4:31:45 PM #79:	Noumas posted... Is it not ongoing though? Nope. It ended with the Tournament of Power's conclusion. After that, we had the new Broly movie, the manga continuing on on with two arcs, and the new "Super Hero" movie coming out in April in Japan. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:962538546] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>Is it not ongoing though?</quote>Nope. It ended with the Tournament of Power's conclusion. After that, we had the new Broly movie, the manga continuing on on with two arcs, and the new "Super Hero" movie coming out in April in Japan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/12/22 6:50:08 AM #80:	St0rmFury posted... Except for the ~~Ultra Ego~~ part, I cringed hard. Explain? Any video also? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962583221] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>Except for the Ultra Ego part, I cringed hard.</quote>Explain? Any video also? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/13/22 6:01:39 PM #81:	Noumas posted... Explain? Any video also? It's only in the manga right now. It's basically Vegeta's version of Ultra Instinct, but based more on power than defense/agility. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/8/AANZVmAAC7Aa.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AANZVmAAC7Ab.jpg --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:962621401] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>Explain? Any video also?</quote>It's only in the manga right now. It's basically Vegeta's version of Ultra Instinct, but based more on power than defense/agility. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/8/AANZVmAAC7Aa.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AANZVmAAC7Ab.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/15/22 9:29:05 PM #82:	Solar_Crimson posted... It's only in the manga right now. It's basically Vegeta's version of Ultra Instinct, but based more on power than defense/agility. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/8/AANZVmAAC7Aa.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AANZVmAAC7Ab.jpg Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out <cite>Noumas posted [p:962685095] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>It's only in the manga right now. It's basically Vegeta's version of Ultra Instinct, but based more on power than defense/agility. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/8/AANZVmAAC7Aa.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AANZVmAAC7Ab.jpg</quote>Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Popo 02/15/22 9:38:21 PM #83:	Noumas posted... Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out It has some interesting potential. The transformation (spoiler for what it does) gives a huge power boost, but additional, taking damage in this form also increases its power. So it has a weird double edged sword effect, as taking damage makes Vegeta even more powerful, but it also takes him closer to defeat. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The Popo posted [p:962685378] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out</quote> It has some interesting potential. The transformation (spoiler for what it does) gives a huge power boost, but additional, taking damage in this form also increases its power. So it has a weird double edged sword effect, as taking damage makes Vegeta even more powerful, but it also takes him closer to defeat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/15/22 9:39:27 PM #84:	Noumas posted... Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out not really. ultra ego wasn't gimping his speed like ascended saiyan. it was simpy ultra instinct's counterpart, but from the opposite concept. if ultra instinct was about defensive reflex, then ultra ego is about offensive agility. calm vs bloodlust. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:962685410] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>Kinda sounds like ascended saiyan from the cell arc, and we all know how that turned out</quote> not really. ultra ego wasn't gimping his speed like ascended saiyan. it was simpy ultra instinct's counterpart, but from the opposite concept. if ultra instinct was about defensive reflex, then ultra ego is about offensive agility. calm vs bloodlust. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/15/22 9:44:43 PM #85:	The Popo posted... It has some interesting potential. The transformation (spoiler for what it does) gives a huge power boost, but additional, taking damage in this form also increases its power. So it has a weird double edged sword effect, as taking damage makes Vegeta even more powerful, but it also takes him closer to defeat. So almost inspired by or bringing back the zenkai boost effect of "taking more hits makes you more powerful" up to a point? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962685562] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>The Popo posted... </cite> <quote>It has some interesting potential. The transformation (spoiler for what it does) gives a huge power boost, but additional, taking damage in this form also increases its power. So it has a weird double edged sword effect, as taking damage makes Vegeta even more powerful, but it also takes him closer to defeat.</quote>So almost inspired by or bringing back the zenkai boost effect of "taking more hits makes you more powerful" up to a point? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Popo 02/15/22 10:01:36 PM #86:	Noumas posted... So almost inspired by or bringing back the zenkai boost effect of "taking more hits makes you more powerful" up to a point? More a matter of tapping into the Saiyans instinctual bloodlust in battle. The more he gets hurt, the more he wants to fight, and the harder it is to beat him. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The Popo posted [p:962685951] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>So almost inspired by or bringing back the zenkai boost effect of "taking more hits makes you more powerful" up to a point?</quote> More a matter of tapping into the Saiyans instinctual bloodlust in battle. The more he gets hurt, the more he wants to fight, and the harder it is to beat him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 02/16/22 8:07:41 AM #87:	Ricemills posted... not really. ultra ego wasn't gimping his speed like ascended saiyan. it was simpy ultra instinct's counterpart, but from the opposite concept. if ultra instinct was about defensive reflex, then ultra ego is about offensive agility. calm vs bloodlust. That's actually really interesting, the goku ultra being defensive and the vegeta one being offensive. Is that reflective of their characters and/or fighting styles? <cite>Noumas posted [p:962694195] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite> <quote>not really. ultra ego wasn't gimping his speed like ascended saiyan. it was simpy ultra instinct's counterpart, but from the opposite concept. if ultra instinct was about defensive reflex, then ultra ego is about offensive agility. calm vs bloodlust.</quote>That's actually really interesting, the goku ultra being defensive and the vegeta one being offensive. Is that reflective of their characters and/or fighting styles? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 02/16/22 8:17:15 AM #88:	Noumas posted... That's actually really interesting, the goku ultra being defensive and the vegeta one being offensive. Is that reflective of their characters and/or fighting styles? Personalities maybe. Goku is a protector and he wants to see an opponents full fighting ability. Being defensive allows that latter point. Vegeta don't give a fuck he just wants to wreck an opponent and prove he's better --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:962694350] in This whole... [t:79858094]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite> <quote>That's actually really interesting, the goku ultra being defensive and the vegeta one being offensive. Is that reflective of their characters and/or fighting styles?</quote> Personalities maybe. Goku is a protector and he wants to see an opponents full fighting ability. Being defensive allows that latter point. Vegeta don't give a fuck he just wants to wreck an opponent and prove he's better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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