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UnfairRepresent 01/14/22 9:52:02 AM #1: |
Odds of severe psychological distress were reduced by 222 per cent for those who began taking hormones in early adolescence Transgender people who start their hormones as teenagers have far better mental health than if they wait until adulthood, new research says. Experts have found that transgender people who begin hormone treatment in adolescence had fewer suicidal thoughts, were less likely to experience major mental health disorders and had fewer problems with substance abuse than those who started hormones later in life. The study, which was led by the Stanford University School of Medicine, gathered data from the largest-ever survey of US transgender adults where 27,715 people responded in 2015. Researchers found that, as well as fewer mental health concerns when taking the drugs as teenagers, those who took the drugs at any age had better mental health than those who wanted them but had never received them. Of the people surveyed, 21,598 reported they had received the hormones they wanted. Of these people, 119 began hormones at age 14 or 15; 362 at age 16 and 17 and 12,157 following their 18th birthday. Some 8,860 people surveyed said they wanted but never received hormone therapy and acted as the control group for the study. Odds of severe psychological distress were reduced by 222 per cent, 153 per cent and 81 per cent for those who began hormones in early adolescence, late adolescence and adulthood, respectively. Odds of feeling suicidal in the previous year were 135 per cent lower in those who began hormones in early adolescence, 62 per cent lower in those who began in late adolescence and 21 per cent lower in those who began as adults, compared with the control group Dr Jack Turban, lead author on the study and expert in paediatric and adolescent psychiatry at Stanford Medicine, said: This study is particularly relevant now because many state legislatures are introducing bills that would outlaw this kind of care for transgender youth. We are adding to the evidence base that shows why gender-affirming care is beneficial from a mental health perspective. In the UK, hormone drugs can only be given to people from the age of 16 who have been on puberty blockers for at least 12 months. Last September, the UK Court of Appeal overturned a judgment that children under the age of 16 considering gender reassignment were unlikely to be mature enough to give informed consent to be prescribed puberty-blocking drugs. Full Article: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/transgender-hormones-teenager-mental-health-b1991724.html https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/0/AAZiH8AABCX0.jpg In America at least. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 01/14/22 9:53:04 AM #2: |
It's good to have more evidence to point to, but sadly a lot of folks on the other side of this argument are not swayed by evidence. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 01/14/22 9:53:31 AM #3: |
Anyone with a brain knows this. --- Swansong, I can feel you fade. https://i.imgur.com/WT6Eugc.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Horrorbooksguy 01/14/22 9:53:52 AM #4: |
More evidence it should be protected and parents shouldn't have a say. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/14/22 9:54:36 AM #5: |
GrandConjuraton posted... Anyone with a brain knows this.Always good to have data Face validity is weak and often harmful --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 01/14/22 9:55:12 AM #6: |
Makes sense. All that stuff about people regretting transitioning is made-up crap by fascists. Its something super low like 2% of people who transition that end up regretting it and even then its nearly always because their parents/others in their environment are shitty to them about being trans. --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/14/22 9:57:44 AM #7: |
Shablagoo posted... Makes sense.How can you say its made up and 2% of cases? Less than 2% of the population is transgender, by your logic this means they don't exist don't dismiss people because its inconvenient dude. People who transitioned and regret it still matter You're being very disrespectful --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Horrorbooksguy 01/14/22 9:57:51 AM #8: |
Shablagoo posted... Makes sense.I also wonder how many of that already tiny percentage agree with their regret fueling anti transition movements. My guess is almost none. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 01/14/22 10:27:36 AM #9: |
Horrorbooksguy posted... I also wonder how many of that already tiny percentage agree with their regret fueling anti transition movements. My guess is almost none. For sure, thanks for adding that. --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/15/22 8:17:39 AM #10: |
Intro2Logic posted... It's good to have more evidence to point to, but sadly a lot of folks on the other side of this argument are not swayed by evidence.I dunno if this is a "both sides" thing. With the one exception of transgenders in sports, in which the activists can be fucking loopy. I haven't really heard any of the LGBT people be opposed to evidence, since it historically has, currently does, and looks like in the future will continue to completely help and support their cause. The denial of evidence is near entirely from the religious and the right wing. Which has a huge overlap. They don't like being challenged and facts/data are secondary to their personal beliefs. Guys who could stand in the rain and claim it's dry because God told them it was dry --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 01/15/22 8:20:37 AM #11: |
Teenagers are already a host of imbalanced hormones and anxiety without throwing gender dysphoria into the mix. I'm not surprised by these results. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 01/15/22 8:22:21 AM #12: |
I wonder how many regret it or reverse course if any But I'm happy to see bnn the subject evolving --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 01/15/22 8:27:31 AM #13: |
Intro2Logic posted... It's good to have more evidence to point to, but sadly a lot of folks on the other side of this argument are not swayed by evidence.It's because they don't think of trans people as people. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Woodger 01/15/22 11:48:14 AM #14: |
Just to nitpick the unusual statistics, you can't really get a 222% reduction in odds. The study has the the adjusted odds ratio for severe psychological distress for past month for adolescents in the 14-15 age group at 0.3, but doesn't detail the adjustments. The equivalent relative risk reduction would likely be around a 55% decrease compared to those in the group that never had hormone therapy (it would be that the no hormone therapy group have a 222% increase in odds ratio instead, or around a 120% increase in relative risk). Still though, 55% is a significant drop, that's good news. The actual research article is here, if interested - https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0261039 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/15/22 1:34:18 PM #16: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That was my point Shablagoo was arguing that they don't exist/matter since it's a minority and inconveient to acklowedge them for his personal beliefs. Which to me is despicable and not that different from bigots dismissing Transgenders because they are small in number. Don't dehumanize people just because
That's a horrible path to go down and I want to challenge it right off the bat. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 01/15/22 1:35:11 PM #17: |
Shocker! --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 01/16/22 9:31:43 AM #19: |
222% reduction would be -122% which makes no sense. I think they meant that people without hormones were 222% more likely to experience severe distress. Everyone knows this stuff already, if they are honest about trans issues. --- I missed the part where that's my problem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarSpangled 01/19/22 8:05:58 PM #21: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Last September, the UK Court of Appeal overturned a judgment that children under the age of 16 considering gender reassignment were unlikely to be mature enough to give informed consent to be prescribed puberty-blocking drugs.Oh I haven't heard about that. Good to know. --- Make love, not war- too many people have forgotten this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/20/22 3:52:51 AM #23: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The study, which was led by the Stanford University School of Medicine, gathered data from the largest-ever survey of US transgender adults where 27,715 people responded in 2015. Researchers found that, as well as fewer mental health concerns when taking the drugs as teenagers, those who took the drugs at any age had better mental health than those who wanted them but had never received them. Of the people surveyed, 21,598 reported they had received the hormones they wanted. Of these people, 119 began hormones at age 14 or 15; 362 at age 16 and 17 and 12,157 following their 18th birthday. Some 8,860 people surveyed said they wanted but never received hormone therapy and acted as the control group for the study. Odds of severe psychological distress were reduced by 222 per cent, 153 per cent and 81 per cent for those who began hormones in early adolescence, late adolescence and adulthood, respectively. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 01/20/22 4:51:30 AM #24: |
As one who transitioned after puberty, 10000000%. Going through the equivalent of hundreds and even thousands of hours of electrolysis, having your bones grow the wrong way, and dealing with a terrible voice box absolutely fucking sucks. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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