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ColdRainAndSnow
12/15/21 2:59:40 AM
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workers that are burden on company

https://twitter.com/cnbc/status/1470787675514978311?s=21

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Alakazamtrainer
12/15/21 3:39:22 PM
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Good if your not helping get penalized

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Machete
12/15/21 3:40:51 PM
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good. anti vaxxers need to punished in all facets of their lives

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FortuneCookie
12/15/21 3:40:57 PM
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I can understand taking away paid benefits for the unvaccinated, but there's still a chance that someone who is vaccinated could get it again. It's shitty to say they're on their own.
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Tappor
12/15/21 3:43:33 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I can understand taking away paid benefits for the unvaccinated, but there's still a chance that someone who is vaccinated could get it again. It's shitty to say they're on their own.
The article says that for those who manage to get a case while vaccinated, they'll still have paid leave.

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SparkClark
12/15/21 3:44:40 PM
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i hope all insurance companies charge more for people who willingly engage in risk prone behavior

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DarthAragorn
12/15/21 3:45:08 PM
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Tappor posted...
The article says that for those who manage to get a case while vaccinated, they'll still have paid leave.
so there's no downsides to this

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FortuneCookie
12/15/21 3:45:44 PM
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Tappor posted...
The article says that for those who manage to get a case while vaccinated, they'll still have paid leave.

Okay. Fair, next then.
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Very_Unreliable
12/15/21 3:45:50 PM
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Machete posted...
good. anti vaxxers need to punished in all facets of their lives
ye bruh, bible *hand emoji*

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Tyranthraxus
12/15/21 3:46:22 PM
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This. Legislators should start coding in exceptions for not being vaccinated against measles, COVID, etc into the ACA.

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Drpooplol
12/15/21 3:47:15 PM
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We should be allowed to sue those who don't get vaccinated

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PoundGarden
12/15/21 3:47:29 PM
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God I fucking love it

Taking a paycut to OWN DA LIBS!!!

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__aCEr__
12/15/21 3:49:33 PM
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If a company decides it doesn't want to force its employees to get vaccinated, this should 100% be the route they all take.

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PoundGarden
12/15/21 3:49:56 PM
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SparkClark posted...
i hope all insurance companies charge more for people who willingly engage in risk prone behavior

I know for a fact Medica will not pay for or cover Covid treatment for the unvaccinated.

Acquiring crushing debt and paying off medical bills for the next 20 years to OWN DA LIBS!!!

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V-E-G-Y-
12/15/21 3:50:35 PM
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Machete posted...
good. anti vaxxers need to punished in all facets of their lives

Dis

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Payzmaykr
12/15/21 3:53:16 PM
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Machete posted...
good. anti vaxxers need to punished in all facets of their lives


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Antifar
12/15/21 3:56:33 PM
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I, for one, believe that healthcare is a human right. I get the satisfaction of seeing the machinations of our current Healthcare system wielded against the unvaccinated, but at the end of the day it's bad for employers and insurers to have the power to raise healthcare costs based on someone's health status.

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TheGoldenEel
12/15/21 3:58:52 PM
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Whats the pattern between these things

oh right, just a way for execs to give themselves more money

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SSJPurple
12/15/21 4:03:24 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
If a company decides it doesn't want to force its employees to get vaccinated, this should 100% be the route they all take.

Agreed

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Compsognathus
12/15/21 4:06:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
I, for one, believe that healthcare is a human right. I get the satisfaction of seeing the machinations of our current Healthcare system wielded against the unvaccinated, but at the end of the day it's bad for employers and insurers to have the power to raise healthcare costs based on someone's health status.
This is what my brain is saying.

But the rest of me basically is going "serves them right".

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Drpooplol
12/15/21 4:08:10 PM
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Antifar posted...
I, for one, believe that healthcare is a human right. I get the satisfaction of seeing the machinations of our current Healthcare system wielded against the unvaccinated, but at the end of the day it's bad for employers and insurers to have the power to raise healthcare costs based on someone's health status.
I agree in that I think it should be a right, but what is wrong with providing incentives for healthy living? In a hypothetical world in which the US had Universal Healthcare, would you be against a $500 tax incentive to not use tobacco? Because the Kroger thing feels pretty similar to me.

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PoundGarden
12/15/21 4:12:18 PM
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Antifar posted...
I, for one, believe that healthcare is a human right. I get the satisfaction of seeing the machinations of our current Healthcare system wielded against the unvaccinated, but at the end of the day it's bad for employers and insurers to have the power to raise healthcare costs based on someone's health status.

If my idiot neighbor keeps having wild bonfires and catching my roof on fire, how long do you think his insurance company is going to keep paying to fix my house before they drop him as a client?

Regardless of if you feel healthcare is a right, the insured does still have responsibilities and obligations too. Or they fuck the entire system up for everyone else.

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MrToothHasYou
12/15/21 4:20:02 PM
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Bad move - they should just fire employees who refuse the vaccine. All this is going to lead to is more people coming into work sickand spreading it to more customersbecause they cant afford to take unpaid sick days.

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iPhone_7
12/15/21 4:31:34 PM
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Machete posted...
good. anti vaxxers need to punished in all facets of their lives
This. We cant be a strong nation if the unvaccinated are preventing us from experiencing our freedoms in safety.

Strength through Safety,
Safety through Security.

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LightHawKnight
12/15/21 4:35:38 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I can understand taking away paid benefits for the unvaccinated, but there's still a chance that someone who is vaccinated could get it again. It's shitty to say they're on their own.

I mean not sure why people keep harping on you can get covid after vaccination, did any professional actually say it was 100%?

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BeantownHero
12/15/21 4:39:07 PM
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Anti Vaxxers who want the world to just "move on" and accept covid as an everyday thing that cant be completely eradicated, this is the tradeoff.

You complained about mandates
You complained about proof of vaccination
You complained about being denied access to places as a result of your refusal

Now, you're just gonna be on the hook financially for your own ignorance.


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Will_VIIII
12/15/21 4:41:51 PM
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Excellent news

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Machete
12/15/21 4:42:35 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
ye bruh, bible *hand emoji*

huh?

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CanuckCowboy
12/15/21 5:02:20 PM
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Nickelback must be stopped.

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Antifar
12/15/21 5:09:48 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Bad move - they should just fire employees who refuse the vaccine. All this is going to lead to is more people coming into work sickand spreading it to more customersbecause they cant afford to take unpaid sick days.
This too

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Anteaterking
12/15/21 5:22:11 PM
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Drpooplol posted...
I agree in that I think it should be a right, but what is wrong with providing incentives for healthy living? In a hypothetical world in which the US had Universal Healthcare, would you be against a $500 tax incentive to not use tobacco? Because the Kroger thing feels pretty similar to me.

Even though they serve functionally similar purposes, adding surcharges seems more punitive than a deduction on your health insurance seems like a reward. The extreme version is "To use our health insurance you have to be healthy" not "If you're healthy your insurance is super cheap".

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hockeybub89
12/15/21 5:26:11 PM
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Good

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Heartomaton
12/15/21 5:29:31 PM
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Hmm. If only there were a simple, cost-free action that could be taken in order to avoid having your benefits taken away and your insurance go up.

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Were_Wyrm
12/15/21 5:33:23 PM
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It depends, you could argue that not getting vaccinated is "just cause" for termination because it's a health and safety concern. But a lot of states are passing legislation that would pay out unemployment to those fired for not getting vaccinated.

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