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Crescente
11/21/21 11:45:22 AM
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Imagine if humans procreated to the point where we have trillions or quadrillions of people. Where do all these souls come from? Is there even a capacity of souls in the universe?
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Heartomaton
11/21/21 11:48:51 AM
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Souls aren't real, at least not beyond them being a metaphysical idea created by us humans to conveniently explain away all the traits that separate us from the rest of the animals.

So there are technically infinite souls.

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MedeaLysistrata
11/21/21 11:49:55 AM
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Soul is also another word for mind historically

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brotrrwinner
11/21/21 11:53:03 AM
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They're procedurally generated

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KainWind
11/21/21 11:53:45 AM
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You Seminar

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uwnim
11/21/21 11:53:48 AM
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brotrrwinner posted...
They're procedurally generated
This.

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Crescente
11/21/21 11:55:08 AM
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Let's say that souls don't exist and that consciousness is just our brains making it possible. If that is the case, then that means it is possible to create an artificial consciousness that is able to think and feel for it self. AI with a consciousness could be possible in the future.
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Mearcstapa
11/21/21 11:58:18 AM
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Crescente posted...
Let's say that souls don't exist and that consciousness is just our brains making it possible. If that is the case, then that means it is possible to create an artificial consciousness that is able to think and feel for it self. AI with a consciousness could be possible in the future.
Pretty much.

Ultimately, what we call consciousness is just a property of matter; matter interacting with itself in a specific complex way.

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Ar0ge
11/21/21 11:59:55 AM
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Crescente posted...
Let's say that souls don't exist and that consciousness is just our brains making it possible. If that is the case, then that means it is possible to create an artificial consciousness that is able to think and feel for it self. AI with a consciousness could be possible in the future.

It IS just our brains
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Crescente
11/21/21 12:06:27 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
It IS just our brains

We don't know that for sure. There could be some unseen, unknown matter or energy coalescing with our brains to make it possible for us to be conscious. Although I can say for certain that without the brain, it'd be very hard to be conscious. Then there's animals. Their brains probably just aren't developed enough to be conscious.
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ButteryMales
11/21/21 12:12:36 PM
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Vaginas.
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Criminalt
11/21/21 12:14:02 PM
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Crescente posted...
Their brains probably just aren't developed enough to be conscious.
The moment when a cow suddenly becomes sentient: "What the ... this is grass. I'm standing here eating fucking grass!!!!"

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Crescente
11/21/21 12:21:16 PM
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dolomedes posted...
we are animals

Yes we are. I'm saying that animals, like us, just need more time to evolve.

I digress, let me go back to the souls thought. Isn't it interesting that once you become conscious, it's the only thing that you know exists? Like what makes my consciousness different than yours? There must be more than just consciousness. Did we choose to become conscious once we are a fetus and then a baby? Like...why did I become the person in this body? How was that chosen? What if we're all just software and everything that we do and think, isn't free will. It's just a "program" designated by our dna and brains? What I'm thinking right now is nothing more than my brain operating as "normal"?
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Crescente
11/21/21 12:28:12 PM
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Okay, you guys do have a point about animal consciousness. They probably are conscious, they're just not intelligent enough to be aware of it. So that brings the question: What is intelligence? And how far can intelligence go? Because if you make AI intelligent enough, can it be conscious? Can it feel and live like us? If so, could we be gods ourselves?
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Criminalt
11/21/21 12:33:39 PM
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See, this is where the whole concept of reincarnation falls down. Unless global birth rates and global death rates match, you've either got a huge bottleneck where all these souls are waiting in line to be reborn and grumbling about how much longer is it gonna take (deaths outstripping births), or you've got babies being born without a soul because there aren't enough to fill all the bodies being produced (births outstripping deaths). That all sounds like bad admin.

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ButteryMales
11/21/21 12:42:56 PM
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Criminalt posted...
See, this is where the whole concept of reincarnation falls down. Unless global birth rates and global death rates match, you've either got a huge bottleneck where all these souls are waiting in line to be reborn and grumbling about how much longer is it gonna take (deaths outstripping births), or you've got babies being born without a soul because there aren't enough to fill all the bodies being produced (births outstripping deaths). That all sounds like bad admin.
Reincarnation is also tied to the concept of Karma. A good decent mouse, whatever that is, can reincarnate as a rat and so on until they're a poor human being. Then maybe back down to an animal if they're an evil human being.
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Crescente
11/21/21 12:43:12 PM
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Criminalt posted...
See, this is where the whole concept of reincarnation falls down. Unless global birth rates and global death rates match, you've either got a huge bottleneck where all these souls are waiting in line to be reborn and grumbling about how much longer is it gonna take (deaths outstripping births), or you've got babies being born without a soul because there aren't enough to fill all the bodies being produced (births outstripping deaths). That all sounds like bad admin.

haha, imagine being those souls in the Soul Station waiting millions of years because there isn't enough room on Earth. But if you think about it, there is plenty of space in the universe. I'm sure there is enough aliens out there for those souls to fill.

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Crescente
11/21/21 12:46:42 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
intelligence is a very loaded, anthropocentric term. humans invented the concept of intelligence to serve as a way to categorize themselves above other life. we are intelligent because we are humans. animals are not intelligent because they are not humans. if you really think about, it's a functionally useless concept.

But where does human intelligence come from? Evolution! Millions of years of evolution. Although there was definitely some luck involved. Regardless, the topic is about souls, intelligence, and consciousness. If you're human, an animal, or an alien, the question is: What makes these things conscious? What makes them be aware that they're alive?
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DeadBankerDream
11/21/21 12:48:05 PM
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There is no such thing as a soul.

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Billyionaire
11/21/21 12:49:25 PM
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I hate it when you have like 50,000+ souls then die and then die again before you get them back.

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Xavier_On_High
11/21/21 12:52:30 PM
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They come from the great crystal, and they return there to be purified and reused upon death.

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nuclearratchet
11/21/21 1:00:51 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
There is no such thing as a soul.
I think there is
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skermac
11/21/21 1:01:54 PM
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From God

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DeadBankerDream
11/21/21 1:06:15 PM
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nuclearratchet posted...
I think there is
A lot of people think dumb things.

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Fluttershy
11/21/21 1:08:34 PM
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We don't know that for sure. There could be some unseen, unknown matter or energy coalescing with our brains to make it possible for us to be conscious.

if you actually care about how any of this works why waste so much time guessing at magic?

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TerrifyingRei
11/21/21 1:09:14 PM
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Something to do with a pygmy and a dark soul that he shattered into infinite pieces and gave one to every human

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Crescente
11/21/21 1:12:10 PM
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Fluttershy posted...
We don't know that for sure. There could be some unseen, unknown matter or energy coalescing with our brains to make it possible for us to be conscious.

if you actually care about how any of this works why waste so much time guessing at magic?

Well, for one thing, I'm not a scientist. However, I do like to talk about these kinds of things as it interests me. Also, I've never said anything about magic. It could be dark matter that affects our brains. Dark matter encompasses 30% of everything in the universe. 69% dark energy. 1% regular matter like the Earth and humans.
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3PiesAndAFork
11/21/21 1:22:14 PM
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Bad souls go to HIFL, good souls go to King Kai.

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nuclearratchet
11/21/21 1:24:16 PM
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dolomedes posted...
just because you think something doesn't mean that's the reality.

like when you're driving and make a turn and the car behind you makes the same turn - and the previous couple turns, too. you might think that person is following you.
I know but that's just what I think. You don't have to agree with me. Same with thinking there's no soul. It's just what you think.
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Crescente
11/21/21 1:27:42 PM
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skermac posted...
From God

Even if there is a God, we live in a universe that has clear cut rules and physics. Everything abides by these physical fundamental constants. This brings me back to the soul. If a soul does exist, it must be connected to the brain, as without the brain, you don't really exist. So really, there's so much we don't know unless we can figure out more about the brain. The brain is so mysterious. Honestly, the brain could be key to figuring out the universe.
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1337toothbrush
11/21/21 1:27:50 PM
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nuclearratchet
11/21/21 1:30:52 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
A lot of people think dumb things.

For me it is quite obvious. It is not blasted everywhere in the movies, music etc for no reason. There's way more going on than we know. Try DMT and then tell me were not infinite beings having a human experience. There's more reasons I could list but yeah..

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DeadBankerDream
11/21/21 1:32:43 PM
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Had to check how much karma that account had after post 42. Will stop responding due to my findings.

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nuclearratchet
11/21/21 1:35:12 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Had to check how much karma that account had after post 42. Will stop responding due to my findings.
Damn I'm sorry I have better things to do then logging in everday.
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AlphaCuck
11/21/21 2:08:09 PM
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god

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Crescente
11/21/21 2:16:49 PM
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AlphaCuck posted...
god

How and why?
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AlphaCuck
11/21/21 2:22:42 PM
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Crescente posted...
How and why?
when i look at the poetic beauty of nature i do not see just random chemicals. i sense a creator above and feel a soul within me

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FL81
11/21/21 2:24:37 PM
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recycled from the soul bin

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