Current Events > Biden needs to cancel student loan debt ASAP

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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...

The issue is really simple, it just shouldn't cost money to get an education.

If you take the market and the individual out of the decisions, there's a substantial risk of education becoming a command-economy.

"I'd like to study marine biology, to save the whales."
"No, you're going to welding school, because the Great Leader needs more tanks."

All this would do in a liberal democracy is create a two-tiered system where public funding shunts students into whatever the perceived "societal need" is, in grossly underfunded "free" colleges, while the elites and wealthy get to go fuck off and learn whatever anyway at some school with seventeen swimming pools.

No. Just federally fund universities.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

This is what we seem to actually want, though - each administration to immediately "undo" whatever bullshit the last one did, then ramrod its own bullshit agenda, with little regard for how it's accomplished.

#justdyingempirethings

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opopopza posted...

If we want to help people, we need to make college more affordable

That's putting a band-aid on the problem. The core problem is that employers have to deal with uncertainty when hiring a new employee. IQ is easily the greatest predictor of job success, but using tests that serve as strong proxies for one's level of intelligence can be a legal minefield. If the government changed the laws in that regard or employers collectively chose to deemphasize the college degree it would take power away from the gatekeepers at universities.

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Democrats are working around the clock to give billionaires a tax break

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/579682-democrats-considering-five-year-repeal-of-salt-cap-in-spending-bill

you really think they have time to help struggling poors? Lmao get real

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ButteryMales posted...

Porque no los dos?

We don't have infinite money. And before you start, I realize the government dumps a lot of money into much worse shit. I don't support that either so don't act like I do.

Government money needs to be better spent in general.

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John_Galt posted...

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/579682-democrats-considering-five-year-repeal-of-salt-cap-in-spending-bill

There shouldn't be a SALT deduction anyway.

John_Galt posted...

Democrats are working around the clock to give billionaires a tax break

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/579682-democrats-considering-five-year-repeal-of-salt-cap-in-spending-bill

you really think they have time to help struggling poors? Lmao get real

Do you really think the SALT cap is a meaningful amount of money for billionaires?

Its helping upper middle class coastal types
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Squall28 posted...

We don't have infinite money.

Money we lent out is digital just like the infinite digital money we give to banks. The only thing that's spent is the money used to run the schools which we're already running either way.

g980 posted...

Its helping upper middle class coastal types

It's still a subsidy for people who don't need it.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's still a subsidy for people who don't need it.

Agreed
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g980 posted...

I dont think he ever said he would forgive all student loans

That was just something AOC pushed to get her upper middle class twitter fans excited

Actually it was Elizabeth Warren and Schumer who spearheaded the 10k-50k EO proposal.

Secondly, Biden said he would. There is no misinterpretation or misquote. He literally said he would wipe out loan debt with Congress, and at least 10k/person without Congress via EO.

But here we are lmfao

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Jagr_68 posted...

Actually it was Elizabeth Warren and Schumer who spearheaded the 10k-50k EO proposal.

Gotcha

So still not Biden
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g980 posted...

Gotcha

So still not Biden

Updates my post.

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did these folks HAVE to go to college? I'm sure some will say well they need to just to get a job that pays "well enough" (however much you think that is), but then again, they're not exactly all becoming doctors and city engineers and such now are they...

Let's be real. America doesn't want to make college affordable or free because that would mean they'd lose bodies for their military industrial complex. The military is America's biggest jobs program and most people who join the military do it not because they want to protect the country but because it's their only mean of upward social mobility.

CommonStar posted...

America doesn't want to make college affordable or free because that would mean they'd lose bodies for their military industrial complex.

Did you suddenly forget that the GI Bill was one of the first education subsidy programs?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Did you suddenly forget that the GI Bill was one of the first education subsidy programs?

Tbf that supports his point

High costs makes more folks reliant on the GI bill

So more folks enlist in order to get educated
Wouldnt work if school were cheap
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Did you suddenly forget that the GI Bill was one of the first education subsidy programs?

Precisely what I'm talking about. They are trading their bodies for their only mean of upward social mobility. If they could get those things without enlisting in the military, do you think they'd still enlist and the military industrial complex be as big as it is?

CommonStar posted...

If they could get those things without enlisting in the military, do you think they'd still enlist and the military industrial complex be as big as it is?

Probably, because overt bribery for enlistments will have to be replaced with compulsory service like Israel and Switzerland do.

lmfao never gonna happen

Biden is literally the reason we are in this mess to begin with, why would he fix it

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VigorouslySwish posted...

Biden is literally the reason we are in this mess to begin with, why would he fix it

Otherwise, the orange boogeyman may return!