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Zero_Destroyer
11/02/21 11:57:31 PM
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(R) at 50.02% and (D) at 49.20%. with 75% of the vote in. An upset here is plausible, in what would be a massive upset that dwarfs the VA race in terms of voting shifts.

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ThisWaterIsDry
11/02/21 11:58:34 PM
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How can it even be so close when that state was so happy to flip away from Trump?

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RamboCell29
11/03/21 12:00:57 AM
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I was cautiously optimistic for Virginia, but New Jersey?!?

What the heck is going on there? Wasn't Murphy up by 4+ points in every poll?

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hockeybub89
11/03/21 12:02:06 AM
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Enjoy your last few years, everyone. The fall will be quicker than Rome's.

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ThisWaterIsDry
11/03/21 12:02:39 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Enjoy your last few years, everyone. The fall will be quicker than Rome's.

: (

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Blue_Inigo
11/03/21 12:02:53 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Enjoy your last few years, everyone. The fall will be quicker than Rome's.
Both candidates are pretty shit for this race unfortunately

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hockeybub89
11/03/21 12:03:33 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Both candidates are pretty shit for this race unfortunately
It's still symbolic.

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PiOverlord
11/03/21 12:15:30 AM
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From what I understand, this is just similar to 2020. It only looks close because absentee votes are still needing to be counted. I'm pretty sure Murphy is going to end up crushing.

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Alpha218
11/03/21 7:46:03 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Both candidates are pretty shit for this race unfortunately
I think Murphy has done a pretty good job personally

I just dont get why he said that if you dont like taxes, move somewhere else line, that was fucking stupid as hell

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Doom_Art
11/03/21 7:49:19 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Enjoy your last few years, everyone. The fall will be quicker than Rome's.
I think you should probably take a break from anything political for a while lol

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ScazarMeltex
11/03/21 7:51:41 AM
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How any person of any level of conscious can vote for the GOP at this point is insane. One of the most corrupt presidential admins in the history of the country staged a literal fucking coup and the party has essentially backed it to the hilt. I get why GOP voters vote for them, their only real desire is to fuck over people their politicians tell them to hate. But anyone else? It's sheer insanity.

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Intro2Logic
11/03/21 7:53:00 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
How any person of any level of conscious can vote for the GOP at this point is insane. One of the most corrupt presidential admins in the history of the country staged a literal fucking coup and the party has essentially backed it to the hilt. I get why GOP voters vote for them, their only real desire is to fuck over people their politicians tell them to hate. But anyone else? It's sheer insanity.
Moderate Democrats love having "reasonable Republicans" in power over their states.

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Alpha218
11/03/21 8:00:48 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
How any person of any level of conscious can vote for the GOP at this point is insane. One of the most corrupt presidential admins in the history of the country staged a literal fucking coup and the party has essentially backed it to the hilt. I get why GOP voters vote for them, their only real desire is to fuck over people their politicians tell them to hate. But anyone else? It's sheer insanity.
Property taxes are a legitimate problem here. Problem is the GOP does jack-all about them though as well; they just love using taxes as a bludgeoning hammer against the Dems

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Duwstai
11/03/21 8:03:25 AM
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State is just way too expensive to live in. I think people will continue to flip flop back and forth hoping one side will solve it.

Neither will, of course.

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Doom_Art
11/03/21 8:03:50 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
How any person of any level of conscious can vote for the GOP at this point is insane. One of the most corrupt presidential admins in the history of the country staged a literal fucking coup and the party has essentially backed it to the hilt. I get why GOP voters vote for them, their only real desire is to fuck over people their politicians tell them to hate. But anyone else? It's sheer insanity.
All politics is local. In most voters eyes they're not voting for Donald Trump or the people who tried to pull off 1/6, but they're voting for the relatively moderate country club Republican candidate for governor.

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ChopinList
11/03/21 8:13:57 AM
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Do Governer's really matter as much as Senate Races. They dont effect what happens country wide. Like what Joe Machin is able to do in the Senate.

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coolboy11
11/03/21 8:21:00 AM
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ChopinList posted...
Do Governer's really matter as much as Senate Races. They dont effect what happens country wide. Like what Joe Machin is able to do in the Senate.
yes the American constitution grants a ton of power to the states so who runs your legislature and state executive is quite important (

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LightHawKnight
11/03/21 8:22:21 AM
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ChopinList posted...
Do Governer's really matter as much as Senate Races. They dont effect what happens country wide. Like what Joe Machin is able to do in the Senate.

I mean look at deathsantis and crapbot.

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MaxEffingBemis
11/03/21 8:23:09 AM
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Governors are the people that most directly impact your life on the local level

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pikachupwnage
11/03/21 8:37:54 AM
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ThisWaterIsDry posted...
How can it even be so close when that state was so happy to flip away from Trump?

Guess Virginia is stupid as fuck.

Can't believe just keeping Trump at arms length is enough to make independents turn to the fascist death cult again.

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Kaiganeer
11/03/21 8:50:03 AM
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Demon1050
11/03/21 9:32:51 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...


Guess Virginia is stupid as fuck.

Can't believe just keeping Trump at arms length is enough to make independents turn to the fascist death cult again.


dude please don't be so biased just because someone has a particular letter by their name. Watch some videos of the guy and listen to the guy he's going to make our state better not worse.

I can't fathom how you can call it a death cult. Trump is gone. It's not trump 2.0. We have a fresh start here, let's give him a chance and see if he does what he says. His opponent was a demented dude with a thug-like attitude as bad as the dude from new york, no way in hel did we want him.
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pikachupwnage
11/03/21 10:17:07 AM
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Demon1050 posted...
dude please don't be so biased just because someone has a particular letter by their name. Watch some videos of the guy and listen to the guy he's going to make our state better not worse.

I can't fathom how you can call it a death cult. Trump is gone. It's not trump 2.0. We have a fresh start here, let's give him a chance and see if he does what he says. His opponent was a demented dude with a thug-like attitude as bad as the dude from new york, no way in hel did we want him.

Youngkin Ran on dogwhistling the issue of Election Integrity(The election was extremely secure and the only threat to that right now are Republicans threatening the right right to vote and Chinese/Russian misinformation).

By being vague about it he gives credence to the throughly disproven lie that there was am significant cheating or insecurity in the 2020 election. He is entirely aware of this and is willing to damage voters trust in elections and increase the risk of violence so Trump's reputation doesn't drag him down with moderates/independents.

He belongs in prison.

He also supports qualified immunity, wants more abortion restrictions, does not support gay marriage rights, his focus on CRT just enables people to suppress anything about race or the less savory aspects of American history. He opposes climate change action and refuses refuses even properly answer if he thinks climate change is influenced by humans at all.

He's a piece of shit.

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Kolibri X
11/03/21 10:23:42 AM
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Biden is so shit he's dragging the entire Democratic party down (and that's a good thing.)

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PatrickMahomes
11/03/21 10:28:21 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Biden is so shit he's dragging the entire Democratic party down (and that's a good thing.)
Won't matter unless the party leaders actually learn something

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Lorkh
11/03/21 10:29:55 AM
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Demon1050 posted...
dude please don't be so biased just because someone has a particular letter by their name. Watch some videos of the guy and listen to the guy he's going to make our state better not worse.

I can't fathom how you can call it a death cult. Trump is gone. It's not trump 2.0. We have a fresh start here, let's give him a chance and see if he does what he says. His opponent was a demented dude with a thug-like attitude as bad as the dude from new york, no way in hel did we want him.
Shut

the fuck

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Blbmbr666
11/03/21 10:31:28 AM
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Democrats haven't given anyone any reason to vote for them except 'hey we aren't Republicans' for fucking decades. It would be so comically easy for them to establish a nearly unbeatable party for 20+ years but that would require actually following through on their talking points.

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Alpha218
11/03/21 10:31:37 AM
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https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455903514748760075?s=20

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Gwynevere
11/03/21 10:35:54 AM
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Demon1050 posted...
dude please don't be so biased just because someone has a particular letter by their name. Watch some videos of the guy and listen to the guy he's going to make our state better not worse.
"Our state" huh


That's from the Virginia governor topic, so which is it?

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Doom_Art
11/03/21 10:37:07 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455903514748760075?s=20
"I've seen enough"

Like music to my ears Dave

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Rathinor
11/03/21 10:51:44 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
"Our state" huh


That's from the Virginia governor topic, so which is it?
Lol @Demon1050
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Esrac
11/03/21 11:19:19 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
"Our state" huh


That's from the Virginia governor topic, so which is it?

I'm not sure i see what you're getting at. The post you quoted seems to be in response to someone saying something about the Virginia election.
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HotLap
11/03/21 11:19:54 AM
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Youd think VA and NJ would be a fucking wake up call for Democrats, but it wont be.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/03/21 11:21:19 AM
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Esrac posted...
Gwynevere posted...
"Our state" huh


That's from the Virginia governor topic, so which is it?

I'm not sure i see what you're getting at. The post you quoted seems to be in response to someone saying something about the Virginia election.

Dude is claiming he lives in both Virginia and New Jersey because he got lazy and didn't double check what he was posting
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Esrac
11/03/21 11:23:58 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Dude is claiming he lives in both Virginia and New Jersey because he got lazy and didn't double check what he was posting

Where did he claim he lives in New Jersey? Because unless I'm misreading the quoted post, he's talking about what he thinks Youngkin will do for Virginia.
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Balnazarr
11/03/21 11:25:19 AM
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ChopinList posted...
Do Governer's really matter as much as Senate Races. They dont effect what happens country wide. Like what Joe Machin is able to do in the Senate.

Yes. I mean Texas Gov Greg Abbot is turning us into a shithole. Look at that.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/03/21 11:26:29 AM
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Okay, never mind, he was talking about Virginia in the post.
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PiOverlord
11/03/21 12:57:45 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1455933089629233154

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20 21/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html

Ugh, GameFAQs and its annoying link limits. Just delete the space.

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Esrac
11/03/21 1:48:40 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20 21/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html

Ugh, GameFAQs and its annoying link limits. Just delete the space.

Now that's a close race.
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Tyranthraxus
11/03/21 1:55:18 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20 21/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html

Ugh, GameFAQs and its annoying link limits. Just delete the space.

???

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html

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WeeWeiWiiWie
11/03/21 1:58:10 PM
#42:


HotLap posted...
Youd think VA and NJ would be a fucking wake up call for Democrats, but it wont be.

"Okay boys, looks like we gotta get rid of this whole CRT thing. Where is it?"
*silence*

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chrono625
11/03/21 2:00:52 PM
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NJ property taxes and the state economy are a real issue and it isn't your typical Im gonna lower taxes! that politicians say.

my yearly property tax is over 14k for a .23 acre lot with a 2300sqft home. We have the highest property tax rate in the country by a fair margin.

The taxes make it impossible for the elderly to live here.


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PiOverlord
11/03/21 2:00:56 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
???

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html
What in tarnation. I swear it said I hit the word length cap, lmao. Thanks

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Tyranthraxus
11/03/21 2:02:32 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
What in tarnation. I swear it said I hit the word length cap, lmao. Thanks

GameFAQs has a stupid thing where if you paste a link immediately after a quote it thinks the quote is part of the link.

You have to put some junk between a quote and the url.

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PiOverlord
11/03/21 2:07:49 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
GameFAQs has a stupid thing where if you paste a link immediately after a quote it thinks the quote is part of the link.

You have to put some junk between a quote and the url.
Ah, I see. Well, that's good to know for the future!

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PatrickMahomes
11/03/21 3:02:12 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/03/21 3:22:24 PM
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Did Ciattarelli even have a big budget for his campaign? Pretty sure the RNC wrote this election off as a guaranteed loss and gave like no money toward it. Nothing like the Virginia race. Cant believe it is this close.

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Holy_Cloud105
11/03/21 3:29:58 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
I think Murphy has done a pretty good job personally

I just dont get why he said that if you dont like taxes, move somewhere else line, that was fucking stupid as hell
I live in NYC so I get that ad on the radio. I have no idea about NJ's politics but from the ad this whole time I thought Murphy was the Republican lol.

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