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Blue_Inigo
10/05/21 12:33:33 AM
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*10 minutes later*

God: It was just a prank bro!

You sure got him, God

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Pepys Monster
10/05/21 12:38:09 AM
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Christians: Well, you see, that was the OLD testament God, who was completely different, even though God is perfect and never changes.

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Irony
10/05/21 12:39:48 AM
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New Testament is basically someone read the Old Testament and thought it was fucked.

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Xethuminra
10/05/21 12:43:12 AM
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God did the same thing to Himself through Christ, except he actually followed through with it that time. And he had the kid tortured. Then he just brought it him back to life. Interesting eh?

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Bass_X0
10/05/21 1:23:51 AM
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God to Job: I'll kill your family. Show you still love me.

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dj1200
10/05/21 1:26:54 AM
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God is good.

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Blue_Inigo
10/05/21 1:27:22 AM
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dj1200 posted...
God is good.
All the time brother

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armandro
10/05/21 1:43:37 AM
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Isaac means he laughs

makes you think

anyways crazy to think many many years later God sends his son to be sacrificed

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KnightofShikari
10/05/21 1:51:46 AM
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but if god is all knowing doesn't that mean he knows that abraham loves him anyways and the test is worthless? doesn't he also know the results of the test before he does anything?

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Prestoff
10/05/21 1:52:43 AM
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Remember when God fucked up Job's life just to prove a point to the Devil?

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MedeaLysistrata
10/05/21 1:53:40 AM
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Some idiots actually took that so seriously a philosopher from the 1800s had to tell them to chill

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gunplagirl
10/05/21 1:54:55 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
but if god is all knowing doesn't that mean he knows that abraham loves him anyways and the test is worthless? doesn't he also know the results of the test before he does anything?
Correct. It's part of why YHVH is a scourge that must needs be cleansed.

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SiO4
10/05/21 2:16:02 AM
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God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God says, "No, " Abe says, "What?"
God said, "You can do what you want Abe, but
Next time you see me comin', you better run"

Abe said, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61"


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Xavier_On_High
10/05/21 2:25:37 AM
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People should really drop the "omni" parts of God. It's the only way we can really make any sense of Him without resorting to "mysterious ways".

He knows almost everything, He can do almost anything, and His love is almost endless. I find that much more palatable.

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armandro
10/05/21 2:48:33 AM
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Kami_no_Kami
10/05/21 2:59:43 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
People should really drop the "omni" parts of God. It's the only way we can really make any sense of Him without resorting to "mysterious ways".

He knows almost everything, He can do almost anything, and His love is almost endless. I find that much more palatable.
The problem with going this route is he gets either ridiculously weak or evil. Like he cant or wont provide food for the hungry, or cure the sick, or stop natural disasters, or prevent wars, or solve climate change, etc. Whats the point in worshipping a being that either cant benefit the world in any significant manner or doesnt want to (or both)?
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Hornswoggled
10/05/21 3:03:42 AM
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Call me cynical and blackpilled, but with how rotten and awful life is a lot of the time, I can see how people can read that story and think it makes sense.
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Tom Clark
10/05/21 4:02:33 AM
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SiO4 posted...
God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God says, "No, " Abe says, "What?"
God said, "You can do what you want Abe, but
Next time you see me comin', you better run"

Abe said, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61"

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Came to post this, haha

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gunplagirl
10/05/21 4:55:10 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
The problem with going this route is he gets either ridiculously weak or evil. Like he cant or wont provide food for the hungry, or cure the sick, or stop natural disasters, or prevent wars, or solve climate change, etc. Whats the point in worshipping a being that either cant benefit the world in any significant manner or doesnt want to (or both)?
They want their reward in the afterlife because they grew so jaded with this life. Never mind the fact that so many of them are fine with holy wars fought in the name of their deity... A name most of them don't even know.

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jumi
10/05/21 5:36:26 AM
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armandro posted...

This is it. The worst meme ever.

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armandro
10/05/21 5:38:21 AM
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jumi posted...
This is it. The worst meme ever.
how so?

have you played Death Stranding or watched NGE?

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Southernfatman
10/05/21 5:39:54 AM
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Hey, you're not allowed to bring this stuff up or else you're a fedora tipping euphoric angsthiest!

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armandro
10/05/21 5:55:17 AM
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Serious Cat
10/05/21 6:04:42 AM
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I sort of like the Gnostic view that the Old Testament God was evil and that's who Christ redeemed us from. Not that I believe it, but it's an interesting view.

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Xethuminra
10/05/21 6:06:27 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
I sort of like the Gnostic view that the Old Testament God was evil and that's who Christ redeemed us from. Not that I believe it, but it's an interesting view.
peolle can beleive in the meaning or something, or see value in it, without putting any stock into its veracity
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armandro
10/05/21 6:06:57 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
I sort of like the Gnostic view that the Old Testament God was evil and that's who Christ redeemed us from. Not that I believe it, but it's an interesting view.

nah, what i like to believe is that God is so good that he is able to redeem the most evil people
and the old testament is just converting pagans no matter how long it takes.

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Xethuminra
10/05/21 6:12:12 AM
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Are we debating Christianity now? Whats the big deal with realizing that everything you know is a lie? In a way, thats a bit freeing. Scary, but free feels good. Doesnt it?

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AuroraUnit836
10/05/21 6:14:00 AM
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armandro posted...
lmfao

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Xethuminra
10/05/21 6:14:33 AM
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AuroraUnit836 posted...
lmfao
I know! Its so good!
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GGuirao13
10/08/21 4:38:00 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
But if God is all knowing doesn't that mean He knows that Abraham loves Him anyways and the test is worthless? Doesn't He also know the results of the test before He does anything?
This pretty much makes everything since the creation of humanity a setup. If God knew Adam and Eve would fall into temptation and plunge all humanity into sin, why is He blaming us for something He knew we would do?


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Xethuminra
10/08/21 4:49:22 AM
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GGuirao13 posted...
This pretty much makes everything since the creation of humanity a setup. If God knew Adam and Eve would fall into temptation and plunge all humanity into sin, why is He blaming us for something He knew we would do?
You made a rather strong statement just now and then questioned it immediately afterward, in the same paragraph

but anyway

Punishing someone is not necessarily the same as blaming them. I think if people werent flawed... we wouldnt be people. Some things we just have to do for ourselves. Life is cause & effect. Thats reality. If theres no reason to do it, we never will , so....

God doesnt solve all of our problems for us.
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Heliogabalus
10/08/21 4:52:47 AM
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We need more spicy Christian memes!

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Xethuminra
10/08/21 4:55:43 AM
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IMO, Life is not worth living without something worth living for. That is all.
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Aki_Sora
10/08/21 5:30:43 AM
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armandro posted...


armandro posted...


Lmao
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armandro
10/09/21 12:57:54 AM
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Heliogabalus posted...
We need more spicy Christian memes!


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SiO4
10/09/21 12:38:15 PM
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Welp may as well post it

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_HayleyWilliams
10/09/21 12:41:10 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
IMO, Life is not worth living without something worth living for. That is all.
So we should live for tangible reasons like family and easing suffering

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LordMarshal
10/09/21 12:43:58 PM
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We just literally make new, man made books, and claim theres a greater power.

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MedeaLysistrata
10/09/21 12:45:15 PM
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armandro posted...
God's not real dude. And Amazing Grace is riddled with plot holes

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Background_Guy
10/09/21 12:46:18 PM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
So we should live for tangible reasons like family and easing suffering
If religion is your only reason to live you should see a therapist
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pogo_rabid
10/09/21 12:50:44 PM
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Irony posted...
New Testament is basically someone read the Old Testament and thought it was fucked.
New testament is woke bible. Old testament is incel bible.

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Background_Guy
10/09/21 12:57:08 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
New testament is woke bible. Old testament is incel bible.
I just got done with those chapters of Genesis where that girl tricks her father-in-law into having sex with her to babytrap him, and then in the next chapter a woman falsely accuses Joseph of rape and gets him thrown in jail for refusing to sleep with her. Blackpilled as fuck.
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Jabodie
10/09/21 12:58:02 PM
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Haha now cut off your foreskin

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/09/21 1:08:33 PM
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How DARE those old women meet up in a pointy building on a Sunday morning

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rexcrk
10/09/21 1:11:01 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Christians: Well, you see, that was the OLD testament God, who was completely different, even though God is perfect and never changes.
Ey-oh

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BignutzisBack
10/09/21 1:15:23 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Well, you see, that was the OLD testament God, who was completely different

...they are though lol

Not sure what point you were trying to make


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Prestoff
10/09/21 1:18:50 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
...they are though lol

Not sure what point you were trying to make

Many Christians say that the God from the Old and New testament are the same when evidence point to the contrary. I just think when you have a son, you tend to mellow out.

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Lunar_Savage
10/09/21 1:22:36 PM
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I just want to point out that a basic concept between Abraham and God was the parallel they share.

God who exists outside of time and space as we currently know it knew that His only begotten son would also sacrifice Himself to save as many humans as possible. So it makes sense to draw the conclusion that God would then test to make sure there was at least one human alive somewhere that would do the same for Him out of the same extreme love (and by someone who had yet to know fully of His son's sacrifice). And Abraham was that dude. According to the canon Isaac was cool with it too, so you get a double parallel.

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armandro
10/09/21 2:43:22 PM
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jumi
10/10/21 1:45:01 AM
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Lunar_Savage posted...
I just want to point out that a basic concept between Abraham and God was the parallel they share.

God who exists outside of time and space as we currently know it knew that His only begotten son would also sacrifice Himself to save as many humans as possible. So it makes sense to draw the conclusion that God would then test to make sure there was at least one human alive somewhere that would do the same for Him out of the same extreme love (and by someone who had yet to know fully of His son's sacrifice). And Abraham was that dude. According to the canon Isaac was cool with it too, so you get a double parallel.

But why did he have to test it? If he knows everything, he already knew Abraham would do that.

Also why did he have to "sacrifice" Jesus at all? Why not just forgive people?

Also isn't he Jesus anyway?

Also Jesus knows he's going to be resurrected and is God and has super powers and will live in heaven forever, so it really wasn't much of a sacrifice.

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