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GameGodOfAll
10/02/21 11:03:58 PM
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Looks like the third is gonna be cluttered garbage riddled with ties to shitty movies.

What a shame.

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Xethuminra
10/02/21 11:05:02 PM
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Awkward
but I am excited
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dave_is_slick
10/02/21 11:11:25 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Looks like the third is gonna be cluttered garbage
Based on...? Or is this one of those "I can't rely on myself so I'll make a stupid post to get engagement" topic?

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GameGodOfAll
10/02/21 11:17:40 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Based on...? Or is this one of those "I can't rely on myself so I'll make a stupid post to get engagement" topic?
Venom and No Way Home spoilers

Bringing Venom and the Rami Spidey characters into the MCU. I bet the writing and acting will be good as usual and Tom Holland will do a great job, but it's now going to be connected to garbage movies. I mean I like Alfred Molina's Doc Ock, but I'd have loved to see a totally different version of it closer to the comics. A classic Doc Ock like in the PS4 game or Spectacular Spider-Man. Toby's Spider-Man was terrible and I mean Spider-Man 3 is enough to want to stay far away from the Rami trilogy. Now the introduction to Venom is gonna be from these crappy Sony movies. Blah.

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BakonBitz
10/02/21 11:35:25 PM
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Eh, MCU has a pretty decent track record. I'd wait before jumping to hasty conclusions.

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Iodine
10/02/21 11:41:40 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Eh, MCU has a pretty decent track record. I'd wait before jumping to hasty conclusions.


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dave_is_slick
10/02/21 11:42:44 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Eh, MCU has a pretty decent track record. I'd wait before jumping to hasty conclusions.


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Flauros
10/02/21 11:43:02 PM
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GameGodOfAll
10/02/21 11:43:40 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Eh, MCU has a pretty decent track record. I'd wait before jumping to hasty conclusions.
No!

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Rharyx211
10/02/21 11:45:15 PM
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We only actually got 1 good Spidey MCU film.

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DespondentDeity
10/02/21 11:45:20 PM
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you watch wrestling

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GameGodOfAll
10/02/21 11:50:03 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
you watch wrestling
And you're on gamefaqs genius.

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Xerun
10/03/21 12:38:53 AM
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I feel like given the contract for Spiderman and the fact that No Way Home trailer implies everyone has forgotten Peter I feel like its more Spiderman is leaving the MCU rather than Sony verse being incorporated

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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 11:38:58 AM
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^it seems (venom 2 spoilers) venom got pulled into the mcu so this is probably the cost to keep spidey in mcu

Like others have said, MCU has had a good track record and has done well with ambitious event type movies. That said Spidey seems to be hurt by the fact that his rights are all over the place, like Hulk's. Now MCU spidey will be getting classic villains like doc oc, green goblin, venom ,etc but instead of being organically tied to him, they are multiverse variants that belong to other spider-men (or Tony stark....)
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unnamedsoldier
10/03/21 12:00:09 PM
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Raimi Spider Man 1 and 2 are the only good Spider Man movies
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Slayerblade11
10/03/21 12:07:40 PM
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Two solid Ironboy Jr films and zero good Spidey films
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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 12:10:08 PM
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unnamedsoldier posted...
Raimi Spider Man 1 and 2 are the only good Spider Man movies

Nostalgia, those movies, especially spiderman 1 have not aged well at all
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fan357
10/03/21 12:15:45 PM
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Xerun posted...
I feel like given the contract for Spiderman and the fact that No Way Home trailer implies everyone has forgotten Peter I feel like its more Spiderman is leaving the MCU rather than Sony verse being incorporated


Imagine believing this.

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unnamedsoldier
10/03/21 1:01:03 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...


this, Far From Home is not a good Spider-Man movie

Homecoming was trash too
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Rharyx211
10/03/21 1:03:14 PM
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Homecoming was good because of Vulture, and Peter actually had a character arc.

FFH was just Nick Fury telling Peter to do his job while Peter made terrible decisions and cried about Tony.

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assassinCrash
10/03/21 1:05:12 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Venom and No Way Home spoilers

Bringing Venom and the Rami Spidey characters into the MCU. I bet the writing and acting will be good as usual and Tom Holland will do a great job, but it's now going to be connected to garbage movies. I mean I like Alfred Molina's Doc Ock, but I'd have loved to see a totally different version of it closer to the comics. A classic Doc Ock like in the PS4 game or Spectacular Spider-Man. Toby's Spider-Man was terrible and I mean Spider-Man 3 is enough to want to stay far away from the Rami trilogy. Now the introduction to Venom is gonna be from these crappy Sony movies. Blah.

Nah Tobey is the best Spidey.

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refmon
10/03/21 1:07:05 PM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
Two solid Ironboy Jr films and zero good Spidey films


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CableZL
10/03/21 1:08:04 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Eh, MCU has a pretty decent track record. I'd wait before jumping to hasty conclusions.


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Funkydog
10/03/21 1:16:23 PM
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I'm sure the current writers can do them justice, whatever you thought of previous writers/directors handling them.

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Xethuminra
10/03/21 1:43:33 PM
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Spider-Man
10/10
the first one is basically a perfect movie. The whole thing looks like a painting, which worked well with the effects of the time. Their Green Goblin changed the way we saw that character too, not to mention Spider-Mans influence on other early comic book films. I think it was supposed to be the new Superman or something :)

Spider-Man 2
9/10
the second one is almost perfect, and gets bonus points for being a good sequel. Most sequels suck, eh? We were just talking about that earlier in the thread. The issue with 2 is that its silly & colorful & vapid & coy. You think you like that approach. Maybe you do. Its unfaithful. Its cheap. And it didnt work in 3. The problems with Spiderman begin with 2 and our lasting appreciation for it. IMO, Doc Ock is still dumb. Armor to Arm? Omg. Multiverse? Okayy. Well see what happens.

Remember. Spider-Man is supposed to make fun of guys like this? Ock is sort of a joke. Hes the worst. Did we forget? Anyway,

Spider-Man 3
6/10
lol its not a bad movie. The look of the symbiote without host was (and is;) awesome. Sandman works just all around very well all things considered. Hes weird. You wanna laugh at him, but hes pathetic, and scary, and it looks great. The practical effects in those films rocks. They did the dance thing scene. Venom was awful. Evil Peter was embarrassing. Just no. Nothing excuses that. They lose a point for disrespect that opened up the door for more disrespect like Iron Man 2, Fantastic 4 2, and other sequels that tried to drop the demographic by 30 years like that... while somehow still trying to use the same material with the same actors and the same look under a new light. Harry Goblin is the worst. 2 out of 3 villains in the ultimate superhero movie were actually Power Rangers quality lol. Ugh. Jet Jaguar was one thing. Why did we make him a snowboarder? What? No, like seriously. Why?

Amazing Spider-Man
7/10
yay! It didnt really work out. Lizard was not at his best. The last act was just so typical. Strong start. Falls flat. Too safe. Like Venom!

Amazing Spider-Man 2
7/10
yay! You did it! Electro is awesome! Great tone! Aaaand lets bring back Power Ranger Snowboarder Harry Goblin, but make him puny & annoying & fake! & hairy! Omg..

HC
9/10
alright! Why wasnt this a 10/10? Whatever. It isnt an origin story & Spiderman beats the shit out of oldman Bruce Wayne. Lots of tech. Amazing movie.

FFH
9/10
ok how am I missing one point? Is it because Im MCU? Gyllenhaal Mysterio! Come on! Seriously these movies are fantastic. And in all honestly... they get 9/10 because theyre too short. They could be longer....

.... but thats what NWH seems to be aiming for. Spidermans Big Adventure. Lets keep our fingers crossed.


Venom is a 6/10 that feels like an 8. They lack gravity towards the end, choosing instead to play it like Iron Man when we needed Dark Knight.

Venom 2 is a 4 or maybe a 5 that feels like a 7 at best, or a 6 if you dont care about Carnage. They choose to play it by the book at the end, opting for Dark Knight vibes when we needed Halloween. Sad.

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bknight
10/03/21 1:50:43 PM
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Yup, a Spider-Man without any Tony Stark or Iron-Man reference will fail, that's what you get for not paying RDJ 100million a movie.
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/03/21 1:51:48 PM
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Why would it be cluttered? Pretty much all of the characters we've already seen before.

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Xethuminra
10/03/21 1:59:53 PM
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Carnage

Jesse Eisenberg becomes Freddy Krueger

the twist? His pain tolerance is like zero lol

Hes smarter than venom, but nothing works out for him. Thats Carnage.
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Slayerblade11
10/03/21 2:00:17 PM
#30:


bknight posted...
Yup, a Spider-Man without any Tony Stark or Iron-Man reference will fail, that's what you get for not paying RDJ 100million a movie.


Yeah we all know Spider-man is a noname character that can't stand on his own two feet without Ironman
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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 2:01:18 PM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
Yeah we all know Spider-man is a noname character that can't stand on his own two feet without Ironman

Spiderman was at rock bottom after amazing spidey 2 and needed an extra hook to be brought back
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Slayerblade11
10/03/21 2:03:18 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Spiderman was at rock bottom after amazing spidey 2 and needed an extra hook to be brought back

That movie made a fuck load of money it only did bad critically. There has never been a Spider-man box office bomb.
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Xethuminra
10/03/21 2:04:18 PM
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The only real atrocities are Spider-Man 3 & Venom 2

..... why do we have problems with this character??
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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 2:06:55 PM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
That movie made a fuck load of money it only did bad critically. There has never been a Spider-man box office bomb.

it wasn't a bomb but elsewhere in the same year comic book movies (winter soldier and guardians) did better. Spiderman is marvel's biggest character. Captain america was B level and guardians D-level.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/03/21 2:07:49 PM
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bknight
10/03/21 2:07:59 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Spiderman was at rock bottom after amazing spidey 2 and needed an extra hook to be brought back
Yup, if Disney was smart, they'd have a RDJ cameo, because tons of still alive Ironmans in the multiverse and throw out these no name former Spider-Man cast member 'leak' as red herrings. They did a good job keeping Trevor hidden for Shang Chi.
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Xethuminra
10/03/21 2:10:20 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Wrong
Arent they bringing back Jamie Foxxs Electro? Check yourself.
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Feline_Heart
10/03/21 2:14:01 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
this, Far From Home is not a good Spider-Man movie
Its better than Homecoming

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Xethuminra
10/03/21 2:22:58 PM
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Electro was cookie-cutter.....

...... but it was from a molde we arguably hadnt seen in either a long time, or arguably ever (depending on the viewers background). The Riddler is a Joker clone. They made a Riddler clone without making a Joker clone. Evil scientist who isnt a real scientist turns into total mindless monster. It was cool. And they nailed the ending imo. Aside from Goblin.

............. how dare they even dream of putting a Venom/Harry monster in the movie.

I think at some point it just becomes clear they do this sort of stuff on purpose At least sometimes
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Rharyx211
10/03/21 2:54:35 PM
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bknight posted...
Yup, if Disney was smart, they'd have a RDJ cameo
If they were smart, they wouldn't do this. Let's have a Spider-Man movie without fucking Tony Stark.

Xethuminra posted...
Amazing Spider-Man 2
7/10
yay! You did it! Electro is awesome! Great tone! Aaaand lets bring back Power Ranger Snowboarder Harry Goblin, but make him puny & annoying & fake! & hairy! Omg..

FFH
9/10
ok how am I missing one point? Is it because Im MCU? Gyllenhaal Mysterio! Come on! Seriously these movies are fantastic. And in all honestly... they get 9/10 because theyre too short. They could be longer....
These are both actually pretty solid 6/10s. Far From Home does have a cool final fight, though.

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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 3:17:33 PM
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What Tom Holland Spidey needed was his own movie: No other MCU characters or at least no one that hijacks the villain/s, no other spidermen, no one else. Just Spidey and a villain that is home grown with Tom Holland spidey as the guy he hates
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Rharyx211
10/03/21 4:54:28 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
What Tom Holland Spidey needed was his own movie: No other MCU characters or at least no one that hijacks the villain/s, no other spidermen, no one else. Just Spidey and a villain that is home grown with Tom Holland spidey as the guy he hates
Seriously. You'd think that would be a no-brainer, but Disney Marvel...

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EngineerGamer
10/03/21 4:56:24 PM
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is toby in NWH yes/no
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I4NRulez
10/03/21 4:59:47 PM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
Yeah we all know Spider-man is a noname character that can't stand on his own two feet without Ironman

Peter and Tony were pretty close in comics iirc. Its not that far off for them to be close in the movies.

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Rharyx211
10/03/21 5:00:53 PM
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EngineerGamer posted...
is toby in NWH yes/no
We don't know yet.

Probably, though.

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Blue_Popo
10/03/21 5:34:50 PM
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Rharyx211 posted...
Seriously. You'd think that would be a no-brainer, but Disney Marvel...

There could still be some mcu presence for sure. Like have captain falcon be a minor plot line
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BlueBoy675
10/03/21 5:44:13 PM
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Spider-Man 2 is the best Spider-Man film. It perfectly captures the cheesiness of the original comics while still keeping a serious tone and it works very well. No other film has captured the dilemma of Peter Parker quite like this one.

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