Current Events > Great Green New Deal. Senate passes $1.2 trillion infrastructure spending bill

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https://twitter.com/potus/status/1425125314150141966?s=21

Congress will pass it to President Biden for him to sign into law. Were getting our country back on track soon

ImAMarvel posted...

Isn't this incredibly watered down from what was originally proposed?

The major shit has been booted off the bill so democrats can ram it through with reconciliation.

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ImAMarvel posted...

Isn't this incredibly watered down from what was originally proposed?

Yeah, and only half of it is new spending: the rest is just re-allocating money from other purposes.
Weak ass bill, and the House shouldnt touch it until the Senate passes the $3.5 trillion reconciliation proposal.
I mean, the two combined are still far less than necessary, but

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ImAMarvel posted...

Is this even likely?

Only need 50 votes to pass with reconciliation and can't be filibustered

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That's weird, all the people who've been saying Biden is nave and would never get a bill passed with bipartisan support are suddenly very quiet.

ImAMarvel posted...

Is this even likely?

The likelihood of even getting the bill past reconciliation is well in the negatives so long as Manchin/Sinema are the deciding votes.

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This bill on its own is hardly green anything.

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I don't know what this does. Anyone wanna give a quick rundown?
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BLAKUboy posted...

The likelihood of even getting the bill past reconciliation is well in the negatives so long as Manchin/Sinema are the deciding votes.

Then their precious bipartisan trash pile can go to hell.

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If it's bipartisan I assume it's mostly going to corporations and shit

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DarthAragorn posted...

If it's bipartisan I assume it's mostly going to corporations and shit

oh fuck oh fuck democrats are doing something good everyone in damage control mode!

Boy am I looking forward to the results of the study to examine Pete Buttigieg's per mile driving tax that they don't call a tax.

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Shit is trash.

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What does it do exactly?

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Mistere Man posted...

What does it do exactly?

Fund a bunch of public works.

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1.2 trillion and we don't even know what it does?

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Wow so if they can get reconciliation to pass now without reoubs then we good. Wow this is a big deal.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

1.2 trillion and we don't even know what it does?

If only you had internet access or something.

Mistere Man posted...

What does it do exactly?

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026081880/senate-passes-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill
Lawmakers set aside the largest share of the money, $110 billion, for roads and bridges.

The infrastructure bill also includes roughly:

$73 billion for electric grid and power infrastructure
$66 billion for passenger and freight rail
$65 billion for broadband investments
$55 billion for water systems and infrastructure
$50 billion for Western water storage
$39 billion for public transit
$25 billion for airports
$21 billion for environmental remediation projects
$17 billion for ports and waterways
$15 billion for electric vehicles
$11 billion for road safety

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s0nicfan posted...

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026081880/senate-passes-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill
Lawmakers set aside the largest share of the money, $110 billion, for roads and bridges.

The infrastructure bill also includes roughly:

$73 billion for electric grid and power infrastructure
$66 billion for passenger and freight rail
$65 billion for broadband investments
$55 billion for water systems and infrastructure
$50 billion for Western water storage
$39 billion for public transit
$25 billion for airports
$21 billion for environmental remediation projects
$17 billion for ports and waterways
$15 billion for electric vehicles
$11 billion for road safety

Cool! And thank you very much!

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ConfessPlease posted...

Wow so if they can get reconciliation to pass now without reoubs then we good. Wow this is a big deal.

The dipshit republicans that voted for this stated that they were doing so to make it harder for Manchin and Sinema to support the big one, so if they voted for this trash without assurances from those two that they'd block the other, they are even dumber than imagined.

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s0nicfan posted...

$50 billion for Western water storage

Seems like doubling down on desalination would be more effective against the droughts out west.

shockthemonkey posted...

you mad that this passed?

I'm not looking forward to being taxed by the mile to pay for it so

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shockthemonkey posted...

lmfao cultists are so weird

Not sure why I expected a response with literally any substance to it from you.

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Mistere Man posted...

What does it do exactly?

https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1425143316962754562

Quite a bit, actually. It's not the metric shitton that Biden initially wanted, but they can always come back whenever they have 2 additional Dem Senators or they can get Manchin and Sinema's heads out of each others' asses, whichever comes first.

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ThePrinceFish posted...

I'm not looking forward to being taxed by the mile to pay for it so

Technically this bill only establishes a pilot program to allow some states to pay people to opt in to the program to figure out whether it will work or not. They still haven't even figured out how exactly they're going to measure how far somebody has gone, so it's really not likely that the end result of this bill will actually be a per mile tax. Especially since it completely goes against their current push to advance new green initiatives, since eliminating the gas tax in exchange for a distance tax would be heavily biased towards gas guzzlers over fuel economic cars.

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ThePrinceFish posted...

I'm not looking forward to being taxed by the mile to pay for it so

That's a perfectly reasonable "usage fee" tho.

s0nicfan posted...

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026081880/senate-passes-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill
Lawmakers set aside the largest share of the money, $110 billion, for roads and bridges.

The infrastructure bill also includes roughly:

$73 billion for electric grid and power infrastructure
$66 billion for passenger and freight rail
$65 billion for broadband investments
$55 billion for water systems and infrastructure
$50 billion for Western water storage
$39 billion for public transit
$25 billion for airports
$21 billion for environmental remediation projects
$17 billion for ports and waterways
$15 billion for electric vehicles
$11 billion for road safety

Electric grid and power structure is going to be huge if a good percentage goes to renewable energies

BLAKUboy posted...

https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1425143316962754562

Quite a bit, actually. It's not the metric shitton that Biden initially wanted, but they can always come back whenever they have 2 additional Dem Senators or they can get Manchin and Sinema's heads out of each others' asses, whichever comes first.

Thank you as well!

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s0nicfan posted...

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026081880/senate-passes-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill
Lawmakers set aside the largest share of the money, $110 billion, for roads and bridges.

The infrastructure bill also includes roughly:

$73 billion for electric grid and power infrastructure
$66 billion for passenger and freight rail
$65 billion for broadband investments
$55 billion for water systems and infrastructure
$50 billion for Western water storage
$39 billion for public transit
$25 billion for airports
$21 billion for environmental remediation projects
$17 billion for ports and waterways
$15 billion for electric vehicles
$11 billion for road safety

That actually seems good. What's the catch?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

That's a perfectly reasonable "usage fee" tho.

I was under the impression I was already paying the highest gas tax in the nation. Is that not the "usage fee"?

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Slayer_22 posted...

That actually seems good. What's the catch?

There isn't one. The whole purpose of this bipartisan bill is they stripped the three trillion package down to just infrastructure funding and removed anything that was even remotely controversial so that Congress could actually get credit for passing a law.

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shockthemonkey posted...

you mad that this passed?

ThePrinceFish is a hardcore Trump slurper, so anything good for America from the opposite side is bad in his eyes

ThePrinceFish posted...

I was under the impression I was already paying the highest gas tax in the nation. Is that not the "usage fee"?

That was before $1,200,000,000,000 in "infrastructure" spending, that surprisingly is actually largely going to actual infrastructure.

s0nicfan posted...

There isn't one. The whole purpose of this bipartisan bill is they stripped the three trillion package down to just infrastructure funding and removed anything that was even remotely controversial so that Congress could actually get credit for passing a law.

Wow. Uhh...damn. This is exactly what should be happening? I'm not sure how to feel.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Wow. Uhh...damn. This is exactly what should be happening? I'm not sure how to feel.

Don't worry. If you're looking for the monkey's paw twist, it's that the house has been showing signs that they're not even going to take a serious look at this because they want the Senate to pass the three trillion bill instead, so what's likely to happen is the two Chambers will bicker over it until we hit the debt ceiling later this year and the government shuts down over it.

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s0nicfan posted...

Don't worry. If you're looking for the monkey's paw twist, it's that the house has been showing signs that they're not even going to take a serious look at this because they want the Senate to pass the three trillion bill instead, so what's likely to happen is the two Chambers will bicker over it until we hit the debt ceiling later this year and the government shuts down over it.

That would be some terrible politicking.

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s0nicfan posted...

$65 billion for broadband investments

I know the roads, bridges and electrical are the most important investments, but this right here is what caught my eye the most. Having lived for years in an area where AT&T refused to budge on running their cables a couple extra miles to our neighborhood, this is (hopefully) a big step forward towards catching up with the rest of the modern world in terms of broadband coverage.

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Yeah, I'm definitely happy to see money for broadband investments. Cable and DSL internet need to go the way of the dinosaur. Fiber can be run all over the country and can reach much further than coax and phone lines can for data transfers.

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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...

That would be some terrible politicking.

What, are you new here?

This is to update USA thats amazing to see

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Yes, its watered down, but at least its something. We just keep fighting for the rest. You know damn well already Republicans won't let us do good things all at once. we gotta break it into chunks to get this stuff down. This is a start at least.

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s0nicfan posted...

Technically this bill only establishes a pilot program to allow some states to pay people to opt in to the program to figure out whether it will work or not. They still haven't even figured out how exactly they're going to measure how far somebody has gone, so it's really not likely that the end result of this bill will actually be a per mile tax. Especially since it completely goes against their current push to advance new green initiatives, since eliminating the gas tax in exchange for a distance tax would be heavily biased towards gas guzzlers over fuel economic cars.

The electric cars can take care of recording mileage and auto-report every time you charge the car at a station.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

The electric cars can take care of recording mileage and auto-report every time you charge the car at a station.

Yeah, but this has to be a universal solution, and one that can be retrofitted into older cars. That's what's going to make it complicated.

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