Current Events > Ben Shapiro gets TRIGGERED about CRT on Real Time with Bill Maher.

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CyricZ
08/07/21 3:34:31 PM
#101:


Proto_Spark posted...
Bill didn't help by basically saying "If CRT is the conservative boogeyman they're pretending it is, I don't agree with it" because, well duh. But him even pretending there's a debate about what CRT means is being dishonest, because the conservatives literally made that definition up. Bill acting like there's a debate there just gives it legitimacy.
Which brings this back to my question posted in #25, of course.

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Proto_Spark
08/07/21 3:37:29 PM
#102:


CyricZ posted...
Which brings this back to my question posted in #25, of course.

Well because Bill Maher cares more about looking smart than any sort of political opinions he has.

... maybe if its about marijuana.
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sutree
08/07/21 3:44:14 PM
#103:


Proto_Spark posted...
It doesn't matter if Nance looked good in the clip or not. Shapiro gave a textbook definition and Nance tried to continue the actual debate, and Shap completely folded under the slightest push.
I don't understand. He continued the "actual debate" by forwarding a position that nobody at the table really disagreed with (we should teach racial history)?

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Machete
08/07/21 3:49:18 PM
#104:


sutree posted...
without engaging with what Ben said


The takeaway here is that malcolm nance had heard of ben shapiro before
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Proto_Spark
08/07/21 3:53:13 PM
#105:


sutree posted...
I don't understand. He continued the "actual debate" by forwarding a position that nobody at the table really disagreed with (we should teach racial history)?

Clearly Ben did, since that's how he got triggered over. Ben gave a textbook definition, Nance made a statement about how it relates to the real world, and Ben lost his ****
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AloneIBreak
08/07/21 3:54:07 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
This really reads like someone who doesnt know what theyre talking about trying to sound like the smartest guy in the room by refusing to actually discuss anything even when theyre the ones who brought it up. People met your critique with facts and explanations and all youve added is youre probably not an expert, without being able to so much as expand beyond the initial post you made hours ago. You put the effort in to postings about this subject but without putting in any of the effort to actually discuss it.
I dont think youre being honest here. The most anyone did was post a paragraph summarizing what CRT is. The platitudes and off base insults with which people responded hardly met anything. Im 100% open to the idea that Im wrong and would readily change my mind if presented with a convincing argument, but no one is trying any harder than I am. At one point someone said theyre in grad school. Thats it. Didnt even bother to mention studying what. Im just supposed to be convinced by the fact that theyre in graduate school. Im probably not the smartest guy in the room or even close to it, but youre kidding yourself at this point. Post 80 was pretty reasonable, I thought.

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sutree
08/07/21 4:03:33 PM
#108:


Proto_Spark posted...
Clearly Ben did, since that's how he got triggered over. Ben gave a textbook definition, Nance made a statement about how it relates to the real world, and Ben lost his ****
No, that's not what happened.
After Nance speaks, Ben says "That's not true that people don't talk about these things, we all did learn thats-"
Nance: "You don't want them talked about"
Ben: "No, that's not true either"
Nance: "You want to cancel them"
Ben: "That's lying. I've personally talked about many of the things you just mentioned. I define critical race theory by citing that actual authors of critical race theory"

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Machete
08/07/21 4:23:40 PM
#109:


shockthemonkey posted...

Youre continuing to post without engaging with anything regarding CRT. Just like you have all topic.


He is being very selective about what he even responds to as well
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lolife67
08/07/21 4:44:58 PM
#110:


AloneIBreak posted...
I dont think youre being honest here. The most anyone did was post a paragraph summarizing what CRT is. The platitudes and off base insults with which people responded hardly met anything. Im 100% open to the idea that Im wrong and would readily change my mind if presented with a convincing argument, but no one is trying any harder than I am. At one point someone said theyre in grad school. Thats it. Didnt even bother to mention studying what. Im just supposed to be convinced by the fact that theyre in graduate school. Im probably not the smartest guy in the room or even close to it, but youre kidding yourself at this point. Post 80 was pretty reasonable, I thought.
How can anyone present a convincing argument against something you still haven't stated? I and others have asked you a few times to specify what exactly you find wrong with CRT but you haven't really done so. You've been very vague and deflecting.
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Machete
08/07/21 4:47:55 PM
#111:


lolife67 posted...

How can anyone present a convincing argument against something you still haven't stated? I and others have asked you a few times to specify what exactly you find wrong with CRT but you haven't really done so. You've been very vague and deflecting.


Yeah, he listed like 2-3 vague things he doesn't like about it and ignored requests for examples of that. Like, how is anyone supposed to even know if they agree or disagree when he doesn't even explain what he's talking about?
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Gwynevere
08/07/21 4:55:03 PM
#112:


Isn't CRT only taught at the college level anyway

Conservatives are great at working people up over literally nothing

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Machete
08/07/21 5:02:07 PM
#113:


Gwynevere posted...
Isn't CRT only taught at the college level anyway

Conservatives are great at working people up over literally nothing


I think that's what happened here. Maybe AlonelBreak just got exposed to some right wing talking points and formed an opinion based on that but when questioned here, was unable to explain or even describe any of it and got flustered as a result. That scenario would fit the profile.
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Proto_Spark
08/07/21 5:05:44 PM
#114:


sutree posted...
No, that's not what happened.
After Nance speaks, Ben says "That's not true that people don't talk about these things, we all did learn thats-"
Nance: "You don't want them talked about"
Ben: "No, that's not true either"
Nance: "You want to cancel them"
Ben: "That's lying. I've personally talked about many of the things you just mentioned. I define critical race theory by citing that actual authors of critical race theory"

The part where Ben says "That's not true that people don't talk about these things" is the line there, because all Nance did was elaborate the point and give some wider context to the statement Ben gave and then Ben went "NO NO NO"

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iPhone_7
08/07/21 8:32:59 PM
#115:


Gwynevere posted...
Isn't CRT only taught at the college level anyway

What happens in colleges doesnt stay isolated to colleges, it bleeds over (like LatinX). Theres a few random examples/incidents that conservatives point to but most are overblown because they lack critical thinking and take them at face value.

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Shezarr
08/07/21 9:00:05 PM
#116:


Shut the fuck up Pinchekria

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iPhone_7
08/07/21 9:04:20 PM
#117:


hmph! *topic list*

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Shezarr
08/07/21 9:50:39 PM
#119:


Shut the fuck up Hypno

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ThyCorndog
08/07/21 9:52:56 PM
#120:


DD Divine posted...
Ben Shapiro sounds like my podcasts at 1.5 speed.
Lmao yeah

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R1masher
08/07/21 11:46:09 PM
#121:


What a shit show of a topic

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sktgamer_13dude
08/08/21 12:04:52 AM
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au_gold
08/08/21 11:42:41 PM
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YoungMan
08/08/21 11:47:44 PM
#124:


Cathode ray tube?

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Solid Snake07
08/08/21 11:48:37 PM
#125:


Honestly, I barely trust the public school system to teach kids how spell and write complete structured sentences. Much less the nuance of race relations in this country as it relates to social and structural power.

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au_gold
08/10/21 6:34:13 AM
#126:


Bump.

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UnfairRepresent
08/10/21 6:37:38 AM
#127:


Solid Snake07 posted...
Honestly, I barely trust the public school system to teach kids how spell and write complete structured sentences. Much less the nuance of race relations in this country as it relates to social and structural power.
This Is such a lazy criticism

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Xethuminra
08/10/21 6:45:47 AM
#129:


David1988 posted...
I would watch a Shapiro-AOC romcom, it would give the people hope.

Nah

Honestly, I think we need to get rid of these dead-eyed political frontmen on the news altogether. It gives people the wrong impression. Decisions cant be made on the fly unless in the most dire of circumstances. America needs
a Battle Plan.... with transparency.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/10/21 6:46:11 AM
#130:


Lol, looks like Ben's stans from his channel invaded the comments section. ctrl+f "NPC" just for shits and giggles and see how many hits there are

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