Current Events > France gave French teens money to become cultured. They spent it all on manga.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/arts/france-culture-pass.html

When the French government launched a smartphone app that gives 300 euros to every 18-year-old in the country for cultural purchases like books and music, or exhibition and performance tickets, most young peoples impulse wasnt to buy Prousts greatest works or to line up and see Molire.

Instead, Frances teenagers flocked to manga.

Nol Corbin, a Culture Ministry official who oversees the project, said the pass gave Frances newly minted adults a way of looking up nearby cultural offerings the app has a geolocation feature and encouraged them to indulge their cultural passions.

But it also uses incentives to push teenagers toward new, more challenging art forms, he said, a type of curation to bring young people to discover the realms of possibility of cultural life.

Those include recommendation lists curated by Culture Pass staff members and by popular artists and celebrities, as well as access to V.I.P. events, like a live-streamed concert at the Soulages Museum in southern France and a behind-the-scenes look at the Avignon theater festival.

In a speech to launch the Culture Pass in May, President Emmanuel Macron, who had made the initiative one of his campaign promises, said that France would mark a formidable victory when young people stop saying, This work of literature, this movie is not for me.

Yet critics argue that letting 825,000 teenagers loose with free cash and expecting them to be nudged away from the nearest multiplex and into an art-house movie theater is a nave waste of taxpayer money.

ah, so it worked.

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Sounds like they did what was asked, but just had a different idea/appreciation than what older people considered art/culture/whatever.

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Based

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Always found it funny that France apparently has a huge amount of weebs.

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Working as intended.

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Fair, next. France has a selection of manga that American publishers wouldn't even consider touching.

French are more like Americans than they would like to admit

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MJOLNRVII posted...

Always found it funny that France apparently has a huge amount of weebs.

I'm shocked by how popular it is in prison. See mangas everywhere and dragon ball super on tv all the time. And some other anime dr stone or something.

But yeah don't give young people money no strings attached and expect them to spend it on what you hoped theyd spend it on. I got financial aid in college and got a 1000 dollar check for school supplies. I already had a computer and all else we needed was pens and paper. I asked the teacher if I had to pay it back. She said no. So began a epic month of parties

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Lol nice

Funkydog posted...

Sounds like they did what was asked, but just had a different idea/appreciation than what older people considered art/culture/whatever.

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RIP French youth.

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it was never about being cultured, it was just the older generation hoping that the new generation will grow up with the exact same interests
no different from the gamer parents who have to rush their kids into playing all their favorites

If real life were a game of Civilization, Japan would be approaching a culture victory and manga authors would be the new Great Writers.

Manga is a great use of French TaxPayer $

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g0ldie posted...

ah, so it worked.

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France: Gives teens money to spend on culture.
Teens: Spend it in culture.
France:


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"Go and chance it at a boring art exhibit or play in the middle of a pandemic."
The good music's already on Youtube and they can take the manga home. 10-0 matchup.

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Paragon21XX posted...

I came to post this

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I'm shocked by how popular it is in prison. See mangas everywhere and dragon ball super on tv all the time. And some other anime dr stone or something.

But yeah don't give young people money no strings attached and expect them to spend it on what you hoped theyd spend it on. I got financial aid in college and got a 1000 dollar check for school supplies. I already had a computer and all else we needed was pens and paper. I asked the teacher if I had to pay it back. She said no. So began a epic month of parties

Yup. Also sounds like you see the inside of prison normally? Are you a guard or inmate?

Shouldve given away free tickets to exhibits/performances or reimbursed purchases of certain works if they had a narrow idea of what they wanted the kiddies to do.

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Giving money away with no strings attached to minors is already a recipe for disaster, but in this case it's fine because manga is the most read medium for zoomer generation and younger.

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Yes, it seems like a waste to me. If they wanted to help teens, how about a free year of college when they graduate? This basically was a way to stimulate the economy.

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pikachupwnage posted...

Yup. Also sounds like you see the inside of prison normally? Are you a guard or inmate?

Shouldve given away free tickets to exhibits/performances or reimbursed purchases of certain works if they had a narrow idea of what they wanted the kiddies to do.

Guard. A lot prefer correctional officer and get pissy about prison guard. But a name is a name to me. In reality we should be called adult day care providers cause 90% of the time that's pretty much what it is

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Majority voting no.

...so they became cultured

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Thats great! The state should promote the arts, but it cannot and should not make value judgments about them.

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It was a resounding success. Sausage Ga.

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Illuminoius posted...

it was never about being cultured, it was just the older generation hoping that the new generation will grow up with the exact same interests
no different from the gamer parents who have to rush their kids into playing all their favorites

I always find it funny when I'm talking with older folks about stuff we both enjoy (I like a lot of older music, movies, tv, etc) it's always quite humorous when we veer off the subject of that and something newer. I do feel like older folks are more open to new things when they see you share some other common interests, instead of shooting those things down.
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Funkydog posted...

Sounds like they did what was asked, but just had a different idea/appreciation than what older people considered art/culture/whatever.

This is the only correct response logically

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They just spent it on entertainment instead. I dont blame them id prob have ended up buying some cheap electronics in their shoes

Also many types of "high art" imo cant be fully appreciated at that young of an age. More life experience is needed. Revisit them in a decade or two or three whatever it takes. I go through periods of arrested development and im sure many others do as well especially for my generation.

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toadfan64 posted...

I always find it funny when I'm talking with older folks about stuff we both enjoy (I like a lot of older music, movies, tv, etc) it's always quite humorous when we veer off the subject of that and something newer. I do feel like older folks are more open to new things when they see you share some other common interests, instead of shooting those things down.

At least from what Ive seen, after a person turns 35-40, their legitimate hobbies/interests are near set in stone in terms of what they might be into. That can 100% include newer media, but it has to exactly align with their general interests.

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Not a manga man myself but french peoole buying japanese stuff sems pretty cultured to me

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Who's to say the average manga doesnt have as much depth and creativity as Proust's works?

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masticatingman posted...

At least from what Ive seen, after a person turns 35-40, their legitimate hobbies/interests are near set in stone in terms of what they might be into. That can 100% include newer media, but it has to exactly align with their general interests.

Speaking of. Ive found it odd the older comic book fans I know tend to shit on manga. Like its basically graphic novels. And if stories of people with super powers are your thing well....only difference generally speaking is usually most everyones powers are similar like in DBZ

Most of them I bet aint even read one.


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masticatingman posted...

At least from what Ive seen, after a person turns 35-40, their legitimate hobbies/interests are near set in stone in terms of what they might be into. That can 100% include newer media, but it has to exactly align with their general interests.

Things are ever changing moreso these days so it's better off not giving a shit what others think of your interests

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Who gave Turbam all that money?

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Yes, but not because they spent it on manga.

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MJOLNRVII posted...

Always found it funny that France apparently has a huge amount of weebs.

Back in the 80s they imported Japanese shows like super sentai and animes like Saint Seiya, they would play that stuff on morning TV kid shows, it's really not too hard to imagine it built up a strong weeb culture.

ZannoL posted...

letting 825,000 teenagers loose with free cash and expecting them to be nudged away from the nearest multiplex and into an art-house movie theater is a nave waste of taxpayer money.

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Funkydog posted...

Sounds like they did what was asked, but just had a different idea/appreciation than what older people considered art/culture/whatever.

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*Shrug*

Manga is literature.

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So, they became cultured.

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As long as it's good manga like Prison School and Grand Blue

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Umbreon posted...

*Shrug*

Manga is literature.

And it's art too!

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Based manga saving France. Truly a country of culture.


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