Current Events > Do you look down on tradeswomen/tradesmen?

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I was kinda curious on how people in the 21st century look at others without some university accreditation of some sort - having worked some trades myself I cant say that at the end of the day having a degree means everything in the world

They also held some of the most unique perspectives in the world, I guess education really IS what you make out of it

yes, no clue why anyone would want to live their life like that
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No? wtf lol. Why would I look down on someone who provides a useful service that I might need one day

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no.

they provide essential services, and can get paid really well.

but even if neither of those things were true, I try not to look down on people's livelihoods...as long as they don't hurt anyone else.

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? No, knowing a trade is useful as fuck

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No_U_L7 posted...

yes, no clue why anyone would want to live their life like that

Yeah they should pretend to be a pickup artist on a dying message board instead

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So trades like builders, carpenters, plumbers etc?

All the people that are incredibly essential to give everyone else housing, warmth, light, heat and stuff like that?

Nah, I don't look down on them for being tradespeople.

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no. taking it even further beyond trades, I think it says a lot about a person if they look down on the janitor

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can someone explain to me what a tradesman is?

ive never heard the expression before, i assumed it was someone homeless or survives via bartering
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I'm an electrician so no. Although, sometimes I want to look down on some of these sheet rockers and plumbers out there. >:(

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TheRadiant posted...

Yeah they should pretend to be a pickup artist on a dying message board instead

Savage

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No_U_L7 posted...

yes, no clue why anyone would want to live their life like that

You make me sick dude.

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No, I am not a horse's ass.

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I don't tend to look down on people unless they're assholes.

No_U_L7 posted...

can someone explain to me what a tradesman is?

ive never heard the expression before, i assumed it was someone homeless or survives via bartering

Blue collar professionals. People like carpenters, electricians, and plumbers.

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Southernfatman posted...

I'm an electrician so no. Although, sometimes I want to look down on some of these sheet rockers and plumbers out there. >:(

Lmfao I can relate, the amount of times Ive had wires buried and even un-stapled and then buried is stupidly annoying

nevermind a fucking nail through 14/2 on a job requiring AFCI breakers -_-

or PVC right through the center of a vanity mirror

No. As long as they do their job well, I respect them. Not everyone can have a highly compensated job, and we need trade workers.

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https://www.ontario.ca/page/explore-trades-ontario

Here's a list of what my province considers a trade.

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PMarth2002 posted...

I don't tend to look down on people unless they're assholes.

Blue collar professionals. People like carpenters, electricians, and plumbers.

since when has that ever been called tradesmen lmao

what a dumb name
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Only insecure dumbasses desperately needing a way to feel superior to others look down on anyone in the trades.

Actually that applies to any job. But especially a job that tons of people couldn't do if their lives depended on it.

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No_U_L7 posted...

since when has that ever been called tradesmen lmao

what a dumb name

Literally for hundreds of years among speakers of this language

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No_U_L7 posted...

since when has that ever been called tradesmen lmao

what a dumb name

Since forever.

You have a trade. You work in that trade. You're in the trades... you see how this works vegy?

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nah, though anecdotally blue collar workers do seem more dissatisfied with their lives than white collar people

GGuirao13 posted...

No. As long as they do their job well, I respect them. Not everyone can have a highly compensated job, and we need trade workers.

Bruh.

You can easily make 6 figures in carpentry, welding, iron working, boiler making and a bunch of other trades as long as you're willing to work out of town jobs with that sweet sweet pay boost, live out allowance, and ot.

My buddy clears 250k some years as a foreman up north doing big projects on mines and shit.

Hell I made 13k a month for a good while just building mills. Being in the trades doesn't mean you can't make damn good money.

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Kaiganeer posted...

nah, though anecdotally blue collar workers do seem more dissatisfied with their lives than white collar people

I dont even believe youve experienced any anecdotes that would lead you to that belief.

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Union plumber here

I look down on the electricians

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Very_Unreliable posted...

I dont even believe youve experienced any anecdotes that would lead you to that belief.

If he knows any roofers i buy it. Roofers definitely seem pretty miserable in my experience. Not all, but most.

Otherwise I think its just an idea he came up with cause it made sense in his own mind.

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JimiHendrix posted...

Lmfao I can relate, the amount of times Ive had wires buried and even un-stapled and then buried is stupidly annoying

nevermind a fucking nail through 14/2 on a job requiring AFCI breakers -_-

or PVC right through the center of a vanity mirror

I know the pain. Thankfully the past few ones of each my company have worked with haven't been jerks like that.

At one job, the box covering got so bad my foreman just started kicking the wall to find them. Good for the rockers that he was pretty good at finding most of them.

Kobe Bryant posted...

Union plumber here

I look down on the electricians

>:o

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Kobe Bryant posted...

Union plumber here

I look down on the electricians

Lol.

Its a toss up. As a carpenter I have hated a lot of electricians, but only the ones who want you to come and do every tiny thing for them. They can fuck off.

I've worked with too many electricians who will stop what they're doing and find a carpenter to screw a little chunk of 2x4 onto a stud for them.

You have a drill, there's plenty of scrap wood around... why in the fuck are you bothering me for this?

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Yeah, you've got to be pretty fucking smart, quick, physically and mentally strong to be in the main building trades. You'll be reading blueprints,, operating heavy machinery, rigging shit 100s of feet up in the air all while trying not to kill people in a fast paced, high stress environment.Many apprentices don't last a week.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Lol.

Its a toss up. As a carpenter I have hated a lot of electricians, but only the ones who want you to come and do every tiny thing for them. They can fuck off.

I've worked with too many electricians who will stop what they're doing and find a carpenter to screw a little chunk of 2x4 onto a stud for them.

You have a drill, there's plenty of scrap wood around... why in the fuck are you bothering me for this?

Screw those electricians, no pun intended. That's super lazy. Hell, I feel bad just asking carpenters if I can use a scrap piece of their wood they'll just toss anyway.

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I am mindful not to look down on anyone solely based on profession unless it's some fucked up illegal shit.

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I never went to college i have a dd214 from the navy, better than any college degree imo

CanuckCowboy posted...
Lol.

Its a toss up. As a carpenter I have hated a lot of electricians, but only the ones who want you to come and do every tiny thing for them. They can f*** off.

I've worked with too many electricians who will stop what they're doing and find a carpenter to screw a little chunk of 2x4 onto a stud for them.

You have a drill, there's plenty of scrap wood around... why in the f*** are you bothering me for this?

Lol same.

The only tool electricians know how to use are conduit benders and for the rest of the day just walk around

lol

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Southernfatman posted...

Screw those electricians, no pun intended. That's super lazy. Hell, I feel bad just asking carpenters if I can use a scrap piece of their wood they'll just toss anyway.

I dont get it. Its literally part of the culture at some companies around here. Even those places have some really good dudes who just do what needs to be done to complete their job... but it happens a lot.

If its a big thing or you're waiting on framing or something sure grab a carpenter... if you need a little 6 inch box made or something just do it you goober. Lol.

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Not in the least. I've been thinking about becoming a diesel mechanic or general contractor.

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No, not at all. I'm actually in awe of most tradespeople and what they can do.

My dad dropped out of high school and learned welding in the military. He did a ton of other jobs over the years (tree work, general contractor, grading) but always did welding and pipe fitting. He got into the QC side of welding and was making 5k+ a week on some jobs. There are many white collar jobs that don't pay that much...

I'm a maintenance director at a nursing home, and so I have to know a little about everything. Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, etc. It's a ton of fun and I've learned a lot of skills as I've figured everything out.

Plus, in another moment of bragging on my dad, he built his current house from the ground up. Dug out the basement, did all of the foundation, the framing, literally everything. Wired and plumbed everything. All of the sheet rock and interior, floors, bathrooms, etc.. Just amazing that he has so many talents and knowledge. He even did all of the required drawings to get permits. Between him, my mom, my brother and me we got the thing built. How anyone could look down on someone that works with their hands is beyond me...

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Enderknight17 posted...

No, not at all. I'm actually in awe of most tradespeople and what they can do.

My dad dropped out of high school and learned welding in the military. He did a ton of other jobs over the years (tree work, general contractor, grading) but always did welding and pipe fitting. He got into the QC side of welding and was making 5k+ a week on some jobs. There are many white collar jobs that don't pay that much...

I'm a maintenance director at a nursing home, and so I have to know a little about everything. Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, etc. It's a ton of fun and I've learned a lot of skills as I've figured everything out.

Plus, in another moment of bragging on my dad, he built his current house from the ground up. Dug out the basement, did all of the foundation, the framing, literally everything. Wired and plumbed everything. All of the sheet rock and interior, floors, bathrooms, etc.. Just amazing that he has so many talents and knowledge. He even did all of the required drawings to get permits. Between him, my mom, my brother and me we got the thing built. How anyone could look down on someone that works with their hands is beyond me...

Wow ur dad sounds badass

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Enderknight17 posted...

No, not at all. I'm actually in awe of most tradespeople and what they can do.

My dad dropped out of high school and learned welding in the military. He did a ton of other jobs over the years (tree work, general contractor, grading) but always did welding and pipe fitting. He got into the QC side of welding and was making 5k+ a week on some jobs. There are many white collar jobs that don't pay that much...

I'm a maintenance director at a nursing home, and so I have to know a little about everything. Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, etc. It's a ton of fun and I've learned a lot of skills as I've figured everything out.

Plus, in another moment of bragging on my dad, he built his current house from the ground up. Dug out the basement, did all of the foundation, the framing, literally everything. Wired and plumbed everything. All of the sheet rock and interior, floors, bathrooms, etc.. Just amazing that he has so many talents and knowledge. He even did all of the required drawings to get permits. Between him, my mom, my brother and me we got the thing built. How anyone could look down on someone that works with their hands is beyond me...

Damn, thats some next level shit thats basically what Id like to aspire to and spend most of my time doing. Just learning how to do a little of this and that and really got to a point where now I do know a little of this and a little of that.

I cant imagine the amount of work it took to get there honestly

JimiHendrix posted...

Damn, thats some next level shit thats basically what Id like to aspire to and spend most of my time doing. Just learning how to do a little of this and that and really got to a point where now I do know a little of this and a little of that.

I cant imagine the amount of work it took to get there honestly

There's that saying jack of all trades, master of none, but that guy's dad sounds next level for sure

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can't think of a reason why you would, society as we know it needs tradespeople.

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Lmao, flopic.

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Pest Control Tech here. Love working a trade job. I do actually have a BA in political science and music, but if I could do it all over, I'd skip college and not have all the debt.

The 5 knuckleheads who voted 'Yes', fight me IRL.

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I don't see being an electrician and solving electrical problem is less technical than being something like a dentist.

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Kobe Bryant posted...

There's that saying jack of all trades, master of none, but that guy's dad sounds next level for sure

It really is remarkable. I asked him how he learned all that he knew once. He laughed and said he wasn't born with a hammer or any other tools in his hands. He said he just took the time to figure out how stuff works. And he said it helped being poor for a lot of his life, because he couldn't afford to buy new or pay someone to repair whatever.

He always invested everything extra into more tools or equipment. He has a New Holland skid steer. Caterpillar bulldozer. Chainsaws, log splitter, stump grinder, etc. He even had a saw mill running for a few years. He took a lot of the trees from his tree business and made lumber out of them. Nothing fancy and all rough, but he built a hell of a shop out of some of it. It helps that he has a fair amount of land, too.

I know, CE could probably care less. But guy's like my dad are a dying breed. I've learned a ton from him. I wish I would have shown more interest growing up. Again, tradespeople are awesome. Nothing can run without them.


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My dad was a laborer and his body was destroyed in his 50s. His retirement was rough until he died.

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In terms of earnings potential? Hell no.

In terms of their probable breadth of knowledge and extent of their critical thinking skills? Just a little.

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The smartest people I know work the trades

The dumbest ones as well, but it's not by much. Colleges will be happy to give anyone a peice of paper in exchange for 100,000 smaller ones

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Colleges will be happy to give anyone a peice of paper in exchange for 100,000 smaller ones

Depends on the degree, really.

I work in a field where you cant fake it until you make it. I regularly wonder how the hell I managed to do it. I know I didnt, but still, humbled every day by the people Im surrounded by.

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