Current Events > Trump: "Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me-"

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DepreceV2 08/04/21 7:07:59 AM #1:	This shouldn't surprise anyone but it is quite frightening and is flying under the radar. I completely agree with the headline of this article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bombshell-quietly-dropped-last-102002627.html Weve become so inured to Donald Trumps proto-fascism that we barely blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020 election. Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their core. On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen, in which Trump told Rosen: Just say the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R congressmen. The notes were taken by Richard Donoghue, Rosens deputy, who was also on the call. The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was filled with more immediate things infrastructure! The Delta strain! Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trumps bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily irrelevant. Didnt we already know how desperate he was? In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important. Rosen obviously rejected Trumps request. But what if Rosen had obeyed Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt and then left the rest to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would Trumps and the Republicans next moves have been? And which Republican congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup dtat? Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup. Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr said the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have overturned the results. And a few days after Trumps call to Rosen on 2 January Trump told Brad Raffensperger, Georgias secretary of state, to find votes to change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more to overturn the election. Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the last weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to investigate totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud forwarding them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would be filed with the supreme court. Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should simply forget these sordid details. We must not. For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a president refused still refuses to concede, and continues to claim, with no basis in fact, that the election was stolen from him. For the first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup. It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his own pathetic stage a would-be dictator who accidentally became president and then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers after which he was swept into the dustbin of history. We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American presidential history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair an embarrassment to the country. But Trump was no accident and hes not in any dustbin. He has turned one of Americas two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the major political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since Jim Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him. Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in 2024. Donald Trumps proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to American democracy since the civil war. What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better. This final revelation Trumps 27 December call to the acting attorney general in which he pleads Just say the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which bars anyone from holding office who engaged in insurrection against the US. The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland, should issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take it to the supreme court, fine. --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:956762257] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>This shouldn't surprise anyone but it is quite frightening and is flying under the radar. I completely agree with the headline of this article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bombshell-quietly-dropped-last-102002627.html <quote>Weve become so inured to Donald Trumps proto-fascism that we barely blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020 election. Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their core. On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen, in which Trump told Rosen: Just say the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R congressmen. The notes were taken by Richard Donoghue, Rosens deputy, who was also on the call. The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was filled with more immediate things infrastructure! The Delta strain! Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trumps bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily irrelevant. Didnt we already know how desperate he was? In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important. Rosen obviously rejected Trumps request. But what if Rosen had obeyed Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt and then left the rest to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would Trumps and the Republicans next moves have been? And which Republican congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup dtat? Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup. Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr said the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have overturned the results. And a few days after Trumps call to Rosen on 2 January Trump told Brad Raffensperger, Georgias secretary of state, to find votes to change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more to overturn the election. Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the last weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to investigate totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud forwarding them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would be filed with the supreme court. Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should simply forget these sordid details. We must not. For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a president refused still refuses to concede, and continues to claim, with no basis in fact, that the election was stolen from him. For the first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup. It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his own pathetic stage a would-be dictator who accidentally became president and then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers after which he was swept into the dustbin of history. We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American presidential history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair an embarrassment to the country. But Trump was no accident and hes not in any dustbin. He has turned one of Americas two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the major political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since Jim Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him. Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in 2024. Donald Trumps proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to American democracy since the civil war. What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better. This final revelation Trumps 27 December call to the acting attorney general in which he pleads Just say the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which bars anyone from holding office who engaged in insurrection against the US. The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland, should issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take it to the supreme court, fine.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/04/21 7:10:42 AM #2:	And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:956762287] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/04/21 7:15:24 AM #3:	Solar_Crimson posted... And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless. This and the general population don't care Trumpers know he lost and know he tried a coup. The ring wing knows they just lie Sound familiar to alt righters who pretend i dont live where I live to promote anti vax nonsense? They just lie and say anything they want to promote their anti reality ideologies --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956762350] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless.</quote>This and the general population don't care Trumpers know he lost and know he tried a coup. The ring wing knows they just lie Sound familiar to alt righters who pretend i dont live where I live to promote anti vax nonsense? They just lie and say anything they want to promote their anti reality ideologies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 08/04/21 7:17:06 AM #4:	Who? --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:956762371] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Who? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 08/04/21 7:17:35 AM #5:	--- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:956762380] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jpenny2 08/04/21 7:25:18 AM #6:	Trump could have said those same words live on national TV and Republicans wouldn't have cared. --- Fren Code: 2767-3374-3343 \|\| IGN: Penny \|\| TSV: 3067 \|\| Sig NFT I hate sarcasm. I'm also not too fond of irony. \| Permanently banned <cite>jpenny2 posted [p:956762489] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Trump could have said those same words live on national TV and Republicans wouldn't have cared. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya Lee 08/04/21 7:41:38 AM #7:	Solar_Crimson posted... And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless. He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission? --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya Lee posted [p:956762691] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>And he's going to get away with it because the GOP is spineless and the Dems are powerless.</quote> He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/04/21 7:42:38 AM #8:	Takuya Lee posted... He didn't get away with it. He's not being executed for treason, so yeah, he got away with it. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956762705] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Takuya Lee posted... </cite> <quote> He didn't get away with it.</quote>He's not being executed for treason, so yeah, he got away with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/04/21 7:47:29 AM #9:	Takuya Lee posted... He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission? He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:956762767] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Takuya Lee posted... </cite> <quote>He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission?</quote>He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/04/21 7:48:46 AM #10:	The election itself is corrupt? Well hot damn --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:956762788] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>The election itself is corrupt? Well hot damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 08/04/21 7:51:24 AM #11:	Remember "STOP THE STEAL!" ? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:956762829] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Remember "STOP THE STEAL!" ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 08/04/21 8:01:05 AM #12:	Solar_Crimson posted... He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten. Apparently failing your crime and losing a social media account is a fitting punishment <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:956762975] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten.</quote> Apparently failing your crime and losing a social media account is a fitting punishment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 08/04/21 8:04:16 AM #13:	Takuya Lee posted... He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission? He is not currently in jail, and somehow still has power over republicans, he got away with it. The republicans will not allow the democrats to punish trump through the commission. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:956763021] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Takuya Lee posted... </cite> <quote>He didn't get away with it. He failed and he doesn't have his Twitter anymore. Also if Dems were so powerless, why are they running the 1/6 commission?</quote> He is not currently in jail, and somehow still has power over republicans, he got away with it. The republicans will not allow the democrats to punish trump through the commission. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/04/21 8:04:22 AM #14:	Solar_Crimson posted... He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten. And in doing so set a prescient that it's okay for presidents to break the law at the end of their term. That won't come back to bite us --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956763022] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>He was acquitted of the charges relating to him inciting the 1/6 insurrection, because the GOP pretty much all voted to do so. Losing his Twitter is far less than a slap on the wrist compared to what he should have gotten.</quote>And in doing so set a prescient that it's okay for presidents to break the law at the end of their term. That won't come back to bite us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jaded_Dragon 08/04/21 8:05:16 AM #15:	Nothing will happen. --- Buying a game at release these days is basically paying to be a beta tester. -Me <cite>Jaded_Dragon posted [p:956763031] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 08/04/21 8:09:18 AM #16:	This should be news but Trump is just so surrounded with terribleness that people have become numb to it. There is also an easy response, that it was a third party that could have written anything. People that support Trump will repeat that even though it isn't true. What is sad is that Trump takes advantage of the very people that support him the most. The blue collar workers of this country support a guy that does everything he can to screw that exact type of person over. Its pretty unreal to watch happen. --- ************************************************ https://imgur.com/iZdWIKJ <cite>whitelytning posted [p:956763092] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>This should be news but Trump is just so surrounded with terribleness that people have become numb to it. There is also an easy response, that it was a third party that could have written anything. People that support Trump will repeat that even though it isn't true. What is sad is that Trump takes advantage of the very people that support him the most. The blue collar workers of this country support a guy that does everything he can to screw that exact type of person over. Its pretty unreal to watch happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 08/04/21 8:12:03 AM #17:	Just 2 more weeks until he's president again --- https://imgur.com/L6MQGtI https://imgur.com/HAj1Ocp https://imgur.com/Op6gMTg https://imgur.com/hNkY6mv <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:956763122] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>Just 2 more weeks until he's president again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 08/04/21 8:15:26 AM #18:	whitelytning posted... This should be news but Trump is just so surrounded with terribleness that people have become numb to it. There is also an easy response, that it was a third party that could have written anything. People that support Trump will repeat that even though it isn't true. What is sad is that Trump takes advantage of the very people that support him the most. The blue collar workers of this country support a guy that does everything he can to screw that exact type of person over. Its pretty unreal to watch happen. It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?! --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:956763170] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite> <quote>This should be news but Trump is just so surrounded with terribleness that people have become numb to it. There is also an easy response, that it was a third party that could have written anything. People that support Trump will repeat that even though it isn't true. What is sad is that Trump takes advantage of the very people that support him the most. The blue collar workers of this country support a guy that does everything he can to screw that exact type of person over. Its pretty unreal to watch happen.</quote> It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 08/04/21 8:16:57 AM #19:	LightHawKnight posted... It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?! The news absolutely should cover it and people should care because he is still the most important factor in the GOP. Its people that don't care. Half the country will ignore it. --- ************************************************ https://imgur.com/iZdWIKJ <cite>whitelytning posted [p:956763190] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?!</quote> The news absolutely should cover it and people should care because he is still the most important factor in the GOP. Its people that don't care. Half the country will ignore it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/04/21 8:17:23 AM #20:	LightHawKnight posted... It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?! We even have dumbasses here--typically those who supported Trump themselves--deriding us for still talking about Trump as if he's completely gone and has no influence anymore, when that couldn't be any further from the truth. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:956763194] in Trump: &qu... [t:79597923]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>It is so common that idiots out there say stop reporting on Trump, its old news, hes out of power, etc. WHY should the news not report about the crimes the shit bag has done?!</quote>We even have dumbasses here--typically those who supported Trump themselves--deriding us for still talking about Trump as if he's completely gone and has no influence anymore, when that couldn't be any further from the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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