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soulunison2
07/27/21 3:10:41 PM
#103:




look at my fit guys
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Despised
07/27/21 3:38:53 PM
#104:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
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What gengar items is everyone using?

Full tank slowbro is fucking pog tbh

Seems like Float Stone is a must for every Pokemon, and I've been using that and the Muscle Band for extra attack speed / movement speed. Pretty ridiculous they put this stuff behind P2W mechanics when any other MOBA would have a store, but it is what it is.


I mean you can buy them from the store
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Despised
07/27/21 4:12:40 PM
#105:


SW-1550-4254-3728

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 4:23:42 PM
#106:


Tyranthraxus posted...
people saying token are wrong
Nope. Buying in game gold is literally pay to win. How could you even think otherwise? The fuck?
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Kaldrenthebold
07/27/21 4:29:45 PM
#107:


Despised posted...
I mean you can buy them from the store

What is your point?

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Despised
07/27/21 4:48:04 PM
#108:


Literally dm me to run unrated rn
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 5:05:28 PM
#109:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Nope. Buying in game gold is literally pay to win. How could you even think otherwise? The fuck?
You're not buying in game gold. You're selling a token to another player.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 5:37:53 PM
#110:


Tyranthraxus posted...
You're not buying in game gold. You're selling a token to another player.
youre trolling right. What do you think the token is being sold for both originally buying it and then the player who buys it from the other player
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 5:40:23 PM
#111:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
youre trolling right. What do you think the token is being sold for both originally buying it and then the player who buys it from the other player

Who is buying the token from the auction house and where did they get the money to buy the token?

Spoilers: the answer is a dude playing the game and by playing the game.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 5:43:12 PM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Who is buying the token from the auction house and where did they get the money to buy the token?

Spoilers: the answer is a dude playing the game and by playing the game.
So youre trolling. Player 1 buys the token for real life money. Player 1 sells the token to player 2 for in game gold. Player 1 has effectively bought in game gold for real life money. Thats an obvious case of p2w. Theres no room for debate here
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 5:55:17 PM
#113:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
So youre trolling. Player 1 buys the token for real life money. Player 1 sells the token to player 2 for in game gold. Player 1 has effectively bought in game gold for real life money. Thats an obvious case of p2w. Theres no room for debate here

Incorrect. The only way to afford the token is by money earned through playing the game. The guy selling token is dependent upon non paying players for his shit to be worth anything.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 6:07:21 PM
#114:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Incorrect. The only way to afford the token is by money earned through playing the game. The guy selling token is dependent upon non paying players for his shit to be worth anything.
That doesnt make it any less p2w for the person selling the token
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Despised
07/27/21 6:22:54 PM
#115:


Sooooooo, snorlax with scope, float, and the attack speed one is busted
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 6:25:47 PM
#116:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
That doesnt make it any less p2w for the person selling the token

It's very much not P2W because as we've already settled up thread there's no advantage. Even after selling the token he's still going to have less money than the people buying the token.

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Despised
07/27/21 6:27:48 PM
#117:


Bro can we just talk about pokemon
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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 6:43:48 PM
#118:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's very much not P2W because as we've already settled up thread there's no advantage. Even after selling the token he's still going to have less money than the people buying the token.
you cant seriously be saying theres no in game advantage to buying in game gold with real life money its already been settled above that its equally as p2w as any other p2w out there
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 6:57:32 PM
#119:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
you cant seriously be saying theres no in game advantage to buying in game gold with real life money its already been settled above that its equally as p2w as any other p2w out there

The difference between token and buying gold is that you're not buying gold. I don't know how more clear I can make this. When I log into, for example, GTAO, and buy shark cards, that is the whole transaction.

When I sell token, the money comes from exclusively in game sources. It does not come from the till at Activision Blizzard. It's not created out of nothing. Someone had to take in game actions to get that money so they could buy the token.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 7:25:59 PM
#120:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The difference between token and buying gold is that you're not buying gold. I don't know how more clear I can make this. When I log into, for example, GTAO, and buy shark cards, that is the whole transaction.

When I sell token, the money comes from exclusively in game sources. It does not come from the till at Activision Blizzard. It's not created out of nothing. Someone had to take in game actions to get that money so they could buy the token.
Youre missing the point. The only reason people buy tokens from blizzard is to sell them ingame for gold. Theres no other reason. It doesnt matter that the gold technically comes from someone else instead of directly from blizzard. They paid real life money for an in game advantage and thats p2w.
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 7:31:39 PM
#121:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Youre missing the point. The only reason people buy tokens from blizzard is to sell them ingame for gold. Theres no other reason.

Correct but it's still intrinsically bound by the economy of playing the game. It's not an external force which allows a player to claim an advantage over a non paying player. You're not paying to win you're paying to pick up the scraps of another player who already won and you still won't be as good as they are. The players buying the token off the AH are the ones at the top of the food chain.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 8:03:07 PM
#122:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Correct but it's still intrinsically bound by the economy of playing the game.
That doesnt matter. You can say for that reason its slightly different than other p2w. But its not really because at its heart its still p2w because at its heart it only happens because one person wants to spend real life money for an ingame advantage. Thats all p2w is. The person selling the token bought it with real money and they are selling it for in game money. Thats literally paying to win. I dont understand why this is so difficult for you
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soulunison2
07/27/21 8:08:55 PM
#123:


everyone ignored my fit :(
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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 8:11:44 PM
#124:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
That doesnt matter. You can say for that reason its slightly different than other p2w. But its not really because at its heart its still p2w because at its heart it only happens because one person wants to spend real life money for an ingame advantage. Thats all p2w is. The person selling the token bought it with real money and they are selling it for in game money. Thats literally paying to win. I dont understand why this is so difficult for you

The fundamental core of pay 2 win is rooted in mechanics that benefit exclusively paying players to the detriment of non paying players. Token is a symbiotic relationship that benefits both and provides no one with a disadvantage. And the non paying players are still getting the better end of the deal of token's existence.

If I throw down crates of cash for gold ammo on WoT it benefits exclusively me and harms exclusively people I'm aiming at. That is the difference between P2W and player driven economies with a one way conversion to real world money.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 8:14:59 PM
#125:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The fundamental core of pay 2 win is rooted in mechanics that benefit exclusively paying players to the detriment of non paying players
Yes. A person selling tokens has an advantage over someone that doesnt sell tokens.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Token is a symbiotic relationship that benefits both and provides no one with a disadvantage.
It disadvantages whoever doesnt sell tokens, since they dont get the same in game gold advantage that token sellers get
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Despised
07/28/21 4:33:56 AM
#126:


Yikes I'm actually addicted
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Kaldrenthebold
07/28/21 10:09:38 AM
#127:


Oh my they added my favorite, Gardevoir? My oh my.

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Scarecrow17
07/28/21 10:23:58 AM
#128:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Oh my they added my favorite, Gardevoir? My oh my.

I've been using her this morning. Moonblast for the stun followed by Psyshock is a good set up.

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spikethedevil
07/28/21 10:25:12 AM
#129:


Scarecrow17 posted...
I've been using her this morning. Moonblast for the stun followed by Psyshock is a good set up.

Is the one you get always female?

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Scarecrow17
07/28/21 10:35:15 AM
#130:


I forgot to mention this but Gardevoir is a hyper carry late game. If you decide to take Future Sight instead of Psyshock, it can hit for insane amounts of damage.

spikethedevil posted...
Is the one you get always female?

Yeah, even her costume is more suitable for a female Gardevoir.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/28/21 10:51:31 AM
#131:


I have like 13k coins so mayhaps I'll pick her up later. I need something else to use other than Eldegoss.

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soulunison2
07/28/21 12:51:54 PM
#132:


gardys dope, but she needs snorlax or another tank with her to go off early in the game, shes more like a support character who turns into an attacker
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C_Pain
07/28/21 12:52:55 PM
#133:


I love Unite. Also, you guys saw the reddit post about you getting auto put into matches with bots if you lose? I had a match in ranked against bots last night. So weird.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/28/21 12:52:55 PM
#134:


I need to try and get MVP so I can get the final day's challenges for Crustle. I heard he's also really good.

So far there's only a few Pokemon that are kinda shit. Venasaur comes to mind. But all of them seem to have their own niche or style of play that can work out.

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soulunison2
07/28/21 12:58:43 PM
#135:


C_Pain posted...
I love Unite. Also, you guys saw the reddit post about you getting auto put into matches with bots if you lose? I had a match in ranked against bots last night. So weird.

wha really
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Alpha218
07/28/21 1:00:06 PM
#136:


Ngl, the game looked boring af so I never tried it

Besides, years of LoL has made me hate mobas now

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/21 1:28:04 PM
#137:


soulunison2 posted...
wha really

It's common in mobile games to have ranked matches vs bots at very low ranks. It's a psychological trick to make players feel like they're better than they actually are and why to try to climb the PvP ladder.

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C_Pain
07/28/21 1:45:23 PM
#138:


soulunison2 posted...
wha really
/r/PokemonUnite/comments/oqvtbn/how_to_tell_if_you_are_fighting_bots/

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soulunison2
07/28/21 2:08:36 PM
#139:


Damn thats crazy
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