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God_Of_Entirety
07/22/21 11:02:36 PM
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Like I don't expect anyone to be pro-level but you try to tell some people how to do shoryuken input and they can't even do that for the life of them like what the f888 is wrong with you we were doing that when we were like 6 years old LOL

Let alone the concept of "zoning" which casuals think is straight up cheating somehow.

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Naysaspace
07/22/21 11:03:59 PM
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i imagine the same ilk prefer strategy/turn-based/rpg games.

i know its hard to fathom, but guys like me can't do anything but button-mash in fighting games. Our timing just sucks.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/22/21 11:04:28 PM
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Ryu sucks in Smash, play a better character, you dont need the shoryu input. Smash is the most popular fighting game

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God_Of_Entirety
07/22/21 11:09:38 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
i imagine the same ilk prefer strategy/turn-based/rpg games.

i know its hard to fathom, but guys like me can't do anything but button-mash in fighting games. Our timing just sucks.

Then pock a grappler... Or pick a game that's slow paced lol. Button mashing is a matter of player not game
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GMAK2442
07/22/21 11:35:16 PM
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You need to find better competitors. There's class of skills. At least in big games such as Mortal Kombat. It's automatic matched in these game I think.

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berlyman101
07/22/21 11:36:00 PM
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just do down b up b and see what works

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God_Of_Entirety
07/22/21 11:50:24 PM
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BakonBitz
07/22/21 11:55:46 PM
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It might be because I haven't played any extensively except for Smash Bros., but I constantly mis-input and do shit I don't want to do. Not even trying to mash either, lol.

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God_Of_Entirety
07/22/21 11:59:08 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
It might be because I haven't played any extensively except for Smash Bros., but I constantly mis-input and do shit I don't want to do. Not even trying to mash either, lol.

We all did at first. Just keep practicing
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itachi15243
07/23/21 12:05:47 AM
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It might depend on the game.

In mortal combat and blaz blue I'm good imo but tekkan and a lot of anime fighters I am not very good with imo

I can beat Dmc5 on DMD and do great in a souls/souls like (usually)but I have had trouble getting used to certain fighters

A lot of other games use enemy patterns though to win, so that might be why so fighters seem so one sided.

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TerraSeeker
07/23/21 12:30:01 AM
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Not everyone is capable of the same things. It's one those things that piss me off when playing COD. People will act like they're so skilled and not acknowledge that they fundamentally have better reaction time and more precise motor control. There's only so much people can try to improve on successfully.

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God_Of_Entirety
07/23/21 11:02:01 AM
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TerraSeeker posted...
Not everyone is capable of the same things. It's one those things that piss me off when playing COD. People will act like they're so skilled and not acknowledge that they fundamentally have better reaction time and more precise motor control. There's only so much people can try to improve on successfully.

do you think those people were so good the very first time to play the game or did they get good just because they play the game a lot?

Trying to blame genetics for being bad at games is just...
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God_Of_Entirety
07/23/21 11:19:27 PM
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St0rmFury
07/23/21 11:27:02 PM
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I just can't, don't know what else to say. I bought skullgirls since reviews say it's quite noob friendly and I still suck.
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mooreandrew58
07/23/21 11:29:06 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
It might depend on the game.

In mortal combat and blaz blue I'm good imo but tekkan and a lot of anime fighters I am not very good with imo

I can beat Dmc5 on DMD and do great in a souls/souls like (usually)but I have had trouble getting used to certain fighters

A lot of other games use enemy patterns though to win, so that might be why so fighters seem so one sided.

Yeah im definitely worse with 3d fighters. And some inputs In 2d ones I struggle with like a half circle backwards plus punch to do a grapple move or way worse two half circles backwards. Just do full 360s please.

Also Idk why but input detection seems to be worse the older the game. I mess up sometimes in SF 2. Sf 1 forget about it I feel lucky if I pull off a special move

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mooreandrew58
07/23/21 11:39:25 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Most of them require you to have a lot of basic information the games dont tell you

Learning them without a person/people to help you arent really worth it.

In sf4 it took me like 5 days to be able to do Headbut into Ultra for Balrog. Because I was following the command list and doing the combo that way is basically impossible.

Oh yeah combing into moves is a whole different beast compared to doing a single special move. I hate I can get to wbere I can pull it off flawlessly in training but go against even a CPU opponent and suddenly my fingers dont wanna cooperate

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Cemith
07/23/21 11:39:57 PM
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Fighters are the shit and I think everyone could try it once.

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What_
07/23/21 11:41:03 PM
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I suck at fighters

i dont care to get gud either
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God_Of_Entirety
07/24/21 8:56:16 PM
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What_ posted...
I suck at fighters

i dont care to get gud either

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
07/24/21 9:06:01 PM
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Fighting games take actual skill and time to practice is essential
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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 9:10:20 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Fighting games take actual skill and time to practice is essential

And some of work too much to practice. But I take no joy in being curbstomped all the time so if I struggle online I stick to single player. I might stick around if most of my losses where close fights though cause that means just a little practice would help and the fights themselves is kind of practice.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/24/21 9:12:28 PM
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the Combos are always like 16-chain attacks with split second inputs otherwise you drop the combo. Look at skullgirls bread and butter combo, i couldnt even beat the tutorial. And thats the skill floor.

what that guy said about being more into RTS and shooters etc is true.
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God_Of_Entirety
07/24/21 9:26:18 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Fighting games take actual skill and time to practice is essential

you realize that fighting games come from arcade or there was no such thing as practice mode right..

This new gen is so sussed I swear
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Jabodie
07/24/21 9:30:34 PM
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I'm alright if there's auto combos. Actually not really since I don't have the patience for blocking

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yunalenne10
07/24/21 9:30:37 PM
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I absolutely LOVE fighting games, but I always play on the lowest difficulty and never play online. >_>

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KINDERFELD
07/24/21 9:33:42 PM
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My biggest problem with fighting games is input lag.

You just need more time to learn the input latency of a fighting game before you can go versus, and even then, if its online, input lag can occur on another level.

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OudeGeuze
07/24/21 9:52:18 PM
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smash isnt a fighting game
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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 9:53:51 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
I absolutely LOVE fighting games, but I always play on the lowest difficulty and never play online. >_>

Depends on the game for me. Sf 3 and 4 hardest mode only. 2 and 5 somewhere in the middle. Anything snk easiest.

My love of fighters comes from nostalgia of playing the hell out of 2 as a kid then the fact I drink a bit and I can't enjoy games with a story drunk as I'll forger details

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yunalenne10
07/24/21 10:07:40 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Depends on the game for me. Sf 3 and 4 hardest mode only. 2 and 5 somewhere in the middle. Anything snk easiest.

My love of fighters comes from nostalgia of playing the hell out of 2 as a kid then the fact I drink a bit and I can't enjoy games with a story drunk as I'll forger details

I've always enjoyed how they build the characters and really personalize them. I pretty much play fighting games for visuals and lore.

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rexcrk
07/24/21 10:09:12 PM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
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Intelligent and well thought out contribution

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TheRadiant
07/24/21 10:09:34 PM
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I'll have you know I'm bad at most games

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Jabodie
07/24/21 10:10:59 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
smash isnt a fighting game
You're right. It's what fighting games failed to be.

A masterpiece.

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BakonBitz
07/24/21 10:12:57 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
smash isnt a fighting game
That's nice, dear.

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Simp3
07/24/21 10:13:17 PM
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Tbf i play +r guilty gear and i get salty when losing to Sol Badguy all the damn time MASH DP you fuckers i hate you
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Simp3
07/24/21 10:14:05 PM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
you realize that fighting games come from arcade or there was no such thing as practice mode right..

This new gen is so sussed I swear
And those old gen players sucked. Hence why dsp was a top player back in the 2000s
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God_Of_Entirety
07/24/21 10:14:19 PM
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Wrong
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Simp3
07/24/21 10:15:32 PM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
Wrong

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God_Of_Entirety
07/24/21 10:15:58 PM
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No.
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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 10:17:33 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
I've always enjoyed how they build the characters and really personalize them. I pretty much play fighting games for visuals and lore.

I mean I like that too and ultimately why I like sf over mk. I like the characters more.

Hell drunk and in a slight pervy mood I bought dead or alive despite not being into 3d fighters not named soul calibur. Ended up actually liking some of the characters beyond their looks. Like hitomi (German Karate girl) became one of my favorite females and shes one of the least attractive imo (also one of the least sexualized). And Eliot. Brad grew on me especially with the scene of him and Eliot fighting over the last piece of food. Zack of course was good for his comic relief moments

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Simp3
07/24/21 10:17:49 PM
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Notice how Justin went from winning evo like 8 times when it was like garage tournaments but only once in the 2010s when tournaments got bigger? Infiltration and Sonicfox are consistent.

Tokido is too but he used to play like 40 games at the same time
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cadcrafter
07/24/21 10:21:10 PM
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Fighting games and most pvp games are something I don't really enjoy playing... they just make me nervous to play them.

Much rather get my fix of action through single player stuff like Celeste

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yunalenne10
07/24/21 10:21:55 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
I mean I like that too and ultimately why I like sf over mk. I like the characters more.

Hell drunk and in a slight pervy mood I bought dead or alive despite not being into 3d fighters not named soul calibur. Ended up actually liking some of the characters beyond their looks. Like hitomi (German Karate girl) became one of my favorite females and shes one of the least attractive imo (also one of the least sexualized). And Eliot. Brad grew on me especially with the scene of him and Eliot fighting over the last piece of food. Zack of course was good for his comic relief moments

Haha, I stumbled upon DOA2 because of a Dreamcast package deal. Ayane is still my favorite. Yeah, I like Elliot. His combo string is pretty fun to pull off.

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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 10:24:55 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Haha, I stumbled upon DOA2 because of a Dreamcast package deal. Ayane is still my favorite. Yeah, I like Elliot. His combo string is pretty fun to pull off.

I suck at combos in 3d fighters far more than I do in 2d fighters sadly. It's just some stupid fun while I drink. I do love the graphics in 5 and 6 though. Like the sweat looks really good even though I feel that somehow was supposed to be a sexualized thing does nothing for me in that regard just looks good even if I question how they get so sweaty so quick

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What_
07/24/21 10:25:39 PM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
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FL81
07/24/21 10:25:40 PM
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Just camp on the other edge of the screen and spam projectiles >_>

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Simp3
07/24/21 10:26:10 PM
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Lmao what? Doa has the easiest combos in fighting games.
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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 10:27:50 PM
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FL81 posted...
Just camp on the other edge of the screen and spam projectiles >_>

Need to have a good anti air too. They will learn to jump over them. But any really bad scrub in sf can be beat with hadokens and shryukens

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mooreandrew58
07/24/21 10:29:08 PM
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Simp3 posted...
Lmao what? Doa has the easiest combos in fighting games.

I suck at combos. I can do some in 2d fighters but not so much in 3d. If you mean basic ones like ppk or even pp down k. Yeah I can do those

I usually play more characters than I dont in a fighter so more complex strings become harder to remember

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