Current Events > A capitol rioter is trying the sovereign citizen defense in court.

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CableZL
07/16/21 10:41:52 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-riot-defendant-who-threatened-nancy-pelosi-rejects-lawyer-2021-7

A Pennsylvania pizzeria owner arrested and charged in connection to the January 6 Capitol attack demanded the removal of "any and all" defense attorneys on her behalf, arguing that she is a divine entity immune from the court's laws.
Prosecutors say Pauline Bauer was among the hundreds of pro-Trump protesters who broke into the US Capitol on January 6 in an attempt to halt the certification of Joe Biden's election victory. Court documents say Bauer attempted to organize mass transportation to bus people to Washington for the Trump rally that preceded the attack and, once inside the building, told the police she wanted to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
"Bring Nancy Pelosi out here right now," Bauer can be heard saying on body-camera footage from inside the Capitol Rotunda, according to prosecutors. "We want to hang that f---ing b----."

In a Zoom court appearance on June 11, Bauer told the judge she was attending "by special divine appearance," according to The Daily Beast.
"I do not stand under the law," Bauer said, according to the outlet. "Under Genesis 1, God gave man dominion over law."
Bauer was later removed from that video proceeding "due to her inability to show qualm and decency to the Court," records show. She was ordered to appear again in person later that month.

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In one filing, Bauer included a "Patent of Nativity," a document that she claimed was "proof" that her "living DNA existed on this land before there was a United States of America or Any STATE Thereof." The document includes a detailed genealogy of both her mother's and father's ancestry.

LOL

I guess it was bound to happen

I really hope there is video of this.

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berlyman101
07/16/21 10:42:55 PM
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MacDaMurderer
07/16/21 10:43:04 PM
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Sovereign citizen fighting for Trump to retain office.

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CADE FOSTER
07/16/21 10:44:13 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Sovereign citizen fighting for Trump to retain office.

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thronedfire2
07/16/21 10:44:44 PM
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So not only is she an insurrectionist shes a foreign enemy combatant. Treat her as such

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Akagami_Shanks
07/16/21 10:44:56 PM
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i wonder if people realize the sovereign citizen defense NEVER holds up in court. You're in the US, you abide by US laws. Sorry.

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Ilishe
07/16/21 10:45:07 PM
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They should accept her claims, then strip her of her social security number, remove her American nationality and seize all of her property and leave her at the closest border.

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LordFarquad1312
07/16/21 10:45:17 PM
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Judge her as a foreign terrorist then.

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Matelite
07/16/21 10:53:19 PM
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Ilishe posted...
They should accept her claims, then strip her of her social security number, remove her American nationality and seize all of her property and leave her at the closest border.
Is this what should happen to people in those CHAZ things that popped up?

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What_
07/16/21 10:57:23 PM
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for anybody who doesnt know where the sovereign citizen movement has been around for about 30 years or so I remember it creeping up online in the late 90s and early aughts and they used to talk about how like the United States is a corporation and then them as human beings citizens arent subject to its laws and they would talk about how like some gold gold design around the flag meant it like its the corporate United States and not the actual United States and they were talking about how like when youre tried in court your name is in all capital letters like a corporation because the government considers you a corporation and not an individual all this really weird stupid shit that basically was the precursor to Q anon and trump and his terrorists
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ScazarMeltex
07/16/21 10:58:52 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Judge her as a foreign terrorist then.
Gitmo it is then.

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What_
07/16/21 10:58:59 PM
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Matelite posted...
Is this what should happen to people in those CHAZ things that popped up?
NoPeople like you are fucking moderators?
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3PiesAndAFork
07/16/21 11:01:20 PM
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I came into this topic expecting to read she chose to represent herself and I wasn't disappointed.

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Matelite
07/16/21 11:01:43 PM
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What_ posted...
NoPeople like you are fucking moderators?
Well none of my partners are moderators so Im not fucking any moderators, no.

So groups that literally call themselves autonomous zones arent the sovereign citizens, huh? Interesting.

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What_
07/16/21 11:03:13 PM
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Matelite posted...
Well none of my partners are moderators so Im not fucking any moderators, no.

So groups that literally call themselves autonomous zones arent the sovereign citizens, huh? Interesting.


you can make up any strawman you want but sovereign citizens are a very specific group and their allied with right wing militias white nationalist and Nazi movement
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ScazarMeltex
07/16/21 11:11:28 PM
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Matelite posted...
Well none of my partners are moderators so Im not fucking any moderators, no.

So groups that literally call themselves autonomous zones arent the sovereign citizens, huh? Interesting.
The sovereign citizen movement has it's roots in various militia and Neo-Nazi movements, but I'd guess you already know that.

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Zeeak4444
07/16/21 11:58:31 PM
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Matelite posted...
Is this what should happen to people in those CHAZ things that popped up?


if they committed felony crimes and declined to stand trial in the same fashion then sure.

Matelite posted...
Well none of my partners are moderators so Im not fucking any moderators, no.

So groups that literally call themselves autonomous zones arent the sovereign citizens, huh? Interesting.

oh nevermind, I thought you were serious at first but now I see you just wanted to advertise your stupidity to the board.


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SSJCAT
07/17/21 12:01:40 AM
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literally not joking, when I was in middle school/high school someone from my family delivered pizzas for her place and I had eaten it several times

he was shocked to hear how far off the deep end she had gone when he found out, said she was always a nice boss (this was over 10 years ago btw)

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AldousIsDead
07/17/21 12:03:47 AM
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Matelite posted...
Well none of my partners are moderators so Im not fucking any moderators, no.

So groups that literally call themselves autonomous zones arent the sovereign citizens, huh? Interesting.
Holy shit takes, batman. Learn something and move on.

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Steelix500
07/17/21 12:04:32 AM
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What a fucking dweeb
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What_
07/17/21 12:06:53 AM
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Like how the fuck is that person a moderator? really says it really is a fucking mess on this site

@SBAllen

You seriously pick fucking people like that?
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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:07:11 AM
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Matelite posted...
Is this what should happen to people in those CHAZ things that popped up?

where were you in Jan 6th? Do you think the election was stolen? How do you feel about non-European immigration to the US?

just curious

@Matelite

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Zeeak4444
07/17/21 12:08:58 AM
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What_ posted...
Like how the fuck is that person a moderator? really says it really is a fucking mess on this site

My guess is the same as any other industry/field. Low ass standards and no accountability.


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What_
07/17/21 12:11:21 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
My guess is the same as any other industry/field. Low ass standards and no accountability.
Seriously.

Its probably even easier on this site he just poses a halfway decent person for however long it takes and then apply to be a moderator and then let your evil ugly racist side come out
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AldousIsDead
07/17/21 12:11:39 AM
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What_ posted...
Like how the fuck is that person a moderator? really says it really is a fucking mess on this site
There are definitely not any fascist mods though. I've learned my lesson and will definitely not call any of the mods that, even as a joke.

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OctoPop
07/17/21 12:11:51 AM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Sovereign citizen fighting for Trump to retain office.
Rofl

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teep_
07/17/21 12:12:20 AM
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I didn't realise The Admiral had returned and was a moderator again
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Stallion_Prime
07/17/21 12:16:20 AM
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What_ posted...
you can make up any strawman you want but sovereign citizens are a very specific group and their allied with right wing militias white nationalist and Nazi movement

Youre pathetic. Fuck you

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AldousIsDead
07/17/21 12:17:16 AM
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Stallion_Prime posted...
Youre pathetic. Fuck you
Touched a nerve, did he?

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Matelite
07/17/21 12:22:06 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Touched a nerve, did he?
Bruh have you SEEN the meltdown of posts from that guy? His response is literally No, its right wingers! And literally trying to tag Allen about me. Whos nerves got touched here?

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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:24:20 AM
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Matelite posted...
Bruh have you SEEN the meltdown of posts from that guy? His response is literally No, its right wingers! And literally trying to tag Allen about me. Whos nerves got touched here?

again @Matelite where were you in Jan 6th? Do you feel the election was stolen? How do you feel about non-European immigration to the US?

theyre easy questions. If you are afraid of answering the first one you can always change it to whether you are against the covid vaccine

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What_
07/17/21 12:24:39 AM
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Stallion_Prime posted...
Youre pathetic. Fuck you
Melt down crybaby

Matelite posted...
Bruh have you SEEN the meltdown of posts from that guy? His response is literally No, its right wingers! And literally trying to tag Allen about me. Whos nerves got touched here?

you posted stupid shit you deserve to be called on

stop jumping to your alt to defend yourself mod

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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:26:55 AM
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What_ posted...
Melt down crybaby

you posted stupid shit you deserve to be called on

stop jumping to your alt to defend yourself mod

be better

it is very telling he saw a topic making fun of the Jan 6th terrorists and he got so pissed off he had to post essentially whining about tHe lEfT. His dismissal of my questions is very telling too.
for all of the whining from certain people that gamefaqs has a leftist bias it sure seems the opposite is true.

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What_
07/17/21 12:28:25 AM
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limp-bizkit-89 posted...
it is very telling he saw a topic making fun of the Jan 6th terrorists and he got so pissed off he had to post essentially whining about tHe lEfT. His dismissal of my questions is very telling too.
for all of the whining from certain people that gamefaqs has a leftist bias it sure seems the opposite is true.


Its insanely pathetic he jumped on his alt obviously to insult me which I marked which ironically will probably be moderated by him . What a fucked up site
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AldousIsDead
07/17/21 12:29:21 AM
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Matelite posted...
Bruh have you SEEN the meltdown of posts from that guy? His response is literally No, its right wingers! And literally trying to tag Allen about me. Whos nerves got touched here?
Yours, quite obviously.

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VTBM
07/17/21 12:30:49 AM
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Matelite
07/17/21 12:30:54 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Yours, quite obviously.
Looks like were in different ballparks, then. Good day.

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What_
07/17/21 12:31:32 AM
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Matelite posted...
Looks like were in different ballparks, then. Good day.
fuck off
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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:31:57 AM
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What_ posted...
Its insanely p he jumped on his alt obviously to insult me which I marked which ironically will probably be moderated by him . What a f up site

he probably forgot he was using his mod account when he went full Q here lol

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What_
07/17/21 12:32:18 AM
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Again @SBAllen

this is what you consider acceptable?

jfc
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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:32:21 AM
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Matelite posted...
Looks like were in different ballparks, then. Good day.

still cant answer?

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Matelite
07/17/21 12:32:34 AM
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What_ posted...
fuck off
Clearly its my nerves that are touched.

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Matelite
07/17/21 12:33:47 AM
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limp-bizkit-89 posted...
still cant answer?
Sorry. Youre not entitled to my time or information about me, especially when its become clear youre not asking anything in good faith and are looking for a gotcha moment. Your mind was already made up about me before you asked anything. I answered nothing and that was enough for you to surmise quite a bit about me.

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What_
07/17/21 12:34:26 AM
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Matelite posted...
Clearly its my nerves that are touched.
Did you forget your back on your alt Or did you remember that youre on your mod account this time?
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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:37:30 AM
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Matelite posted...
Sorry. Youre not entitled to my time or information about me, especially when its become clear youre not asking anything in good faith and are looking for a gotcha moment. Your mind was already made up about me before you asked anything.

it seems your people think they are entitled to declaring an election unconstitutional if their guy loses or to deciding what skin colors get to be considered as American, so this is rich coming from you

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AldousIsDead
07/17/21 12:38:34 AM
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I mean I joke about the quality of the mods round here, but hot damn dude, you're really living up to the stereotype.

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Matelite
07/17/21 12:42:16 AM
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limp-bizkit-89 posted...
it seems your people think they are entitled to declaring an election unconstitutional if their guy loses or to deciding what skin colors get to be considered as American, so this is rich coming from you
My people, huh?

Youve come up with a lot based on me not volunteering information you wanted.

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What_
07/17/21 12:44:26 AM
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Matelite posted...
My people, huh?

Youve come up with a lot based on me not volunteer information you wanted.
Its funny how you did the exact same thing hypocrite
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limp-bizkit-89
07/17/21 12:44:50 AM
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Matelite posted...
My people, huh?

Youve come up with a lot based on me not volunteer information you wanted.

well its pretty easy stuff to deny. You couldnt. And your behavior here spoke for itself.

it would have been hella easy to say that you were at home, that you think the election wasnt stolen, and that Americans can come in all colors. Yet.you.could.not.

inb4 my account suddenly gets blasted with moderations.

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