Current Events > you need to work 4 min. wage jobs to afford rent in the San Francisco Bay Area

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MixedRaceBaby 07/15/21 11:11:59 AM #1:	https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/14/how-many-minimum-wage-jobs-does-it-take-to-pay-bay-area-rent/ The study found the housing crisis is far more difficult for the working poor in California, and particularly in the Bay Area. A typical Bay Area renter would have to make between $45 and $68 an hour to fit an apartment safely into her budget and still have enough left over for living expenses, according to the analysis. The study assumes a worker receives at least the $14 state minimum wage, and in some cases the higher local minimum wage, and a 40-hour work week. Fair market rents ranged from about $2,400 in Oakland to $3,050 in San Jose and $3,550 in San Francisco. Republicans: "So what? Go work 4 jobs. Is that hard or something? NO WELFARE, NO HANDOUTS. LETS KEEP CUTTING TAXES ON THE RICH" --- For the mixed race babies! <cite>MixedRaceBaby posted [p:956105881] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/14/how-many-minimum-wage-jobs-does-it-take-to-pay-bay-area-rent/ <quote>The study found the housing crisis is far more difficult for the working poor in California, and particularly in the Bay Area. A typical Bay Area renter would have to make between $45 and $68 an hour to fit an apartment safely into her budget and still have enough left over for living expenses, according to the analysis. The study assumes a worker receives at least the $14 state minimum wage, and in some cases the higher local minimum wage, and a 40-hour work week. Fair market rents ranged from about $2,400 in Oakland to $3,050 in San Jose and $3,550 in San Francisco.</quote> Republicans: "So what? Go work 4 jobs. Is that hard or something? NO WELFARE, NO HANDOUTS. LETS KEEP CUTTING TAXES ON THE RICH" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/15/21 11:12:38 AM #2:	Or have 3 roommates <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956105901] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Or have 3 roommates </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 07/15/21 11:13:31 AM #3:	Or get out of the Bay Area --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:956105932] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Or get out of the Bay Area </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MixedRaceBaby 07/15/21 11:14:50 AM #4:	sauceje posted... Or get out of the Bay Area you know, i thought that when covid hit and all the rich tech folks left and started working from home, housing prices would go back down. but nope, now these rich tech fucks just own 2 houses and are raising the prices of homes in both neighborhoods they live in. --- For the mixed race babies! <cite>MixedRaceBaby posted [p:956105968] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>sauceje posted... </cite> <quote>Or get out of the Bay Area</quote>you know, i thought that when covid hit and all the rich tech folks left and started working from home, housing prices would go back down. but nope, now these rich tech fucks just own 2 houses and are raising the prices of homes in both neighborhoods they live in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/15/21 11:19:59 AM #5:	Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956106107] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 07/15/21 11:21:51 AM #6:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing. The people who own property would scream and cry about their property values. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:956106161] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing.</quote>The people who own property would scream and cry about their property values. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 07/15/21 11:26:12 AM #7:	I dont feel like clicking Are they using the 2 bedroom on 30% of one income benchmark? --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:956106276] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>I dont feel like clicking Are they using the 2 bedroom on 30% of one income benchmark?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/21 11:37:28 AM #8:	sauceje posted... Or get out of the Bay Area This. Rather than try to fit an infinite number of people into one, extremely in-demand area, you should encourage expansion out into other areas where cost of living is significantly lower. There's no solution to Bay Area cost of living that will actually fix the problem because anything you'd do to increase supply or decrease cost is just going to further balloon demand and you'll end up right back where you started. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:956106578] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>sauceje posted... </cite> <quote>Or get out of the Bay Area</quote> This. Rather than try to fit an infinite number of people into one, extremely in-demand area, you should encourage expansion out into other areas where cost of living is significantly lower. There's no solution to Bay Area cost of living that will actually fix the problem because anything you'd do to increase supply or decrease cost is just going to further balloon demand and you'll end up right back where you started. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 07/15/21 11:38:44 AM #11:	sauceje posted... Or get out of the Bay Area Don't all those rich people like coffee and eating at restaurants though? Like what the fuck do the hospitality people do to survive there? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:956106606] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>sauceje posted... </cite> <quote>Or get out of the Bay Area</quote> Don't all those rich people like coffee and eating at restaurants though? Like what the fuck do the hospitality people do to survive there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 07/15/21 11:43:57 AM #12:	We are all headed in one direction. The middle class wont exist and your either poor or rich. Some areas are accelerating to that end faster than others. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:956106752] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>We are all headed in one direction. The middle class wont exist and your either poor or rich. Some areas are accelerating to that end faster than others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 07/15/21 11:45:30 AM #13:	Thats a lot of bootstrap pulling --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:956106796] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Thats a lot of bootstrap pulling </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/15/21 11:47:35 AM #14:	apocalyptic_4 posted... The middle class wont exist and your either poor or rich. Some areas are accelerating to that end faster than others. In urban cores, yes. De-industrialization just does that. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956106850] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite> <quote>The middle class wont exist and your either poor or rich. Some areas are accelerating to that end faster than others.</quote>In urban cores, yes. De-industrialization just does that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 07/15/21 11:47:51 AM #15:	Full House was big in the early 90s and Im sure things have only gotten worse in SF since. Everyone knows you dont get your own place in SF. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:956106857] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Full House was big in the early 90s and Im sure things have only gotten worse in SF since. Everyone knows you dont get your own place in SF. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/15/21 11:50:54 AM #16:	EndOfDiscOne posted... Full House was big in the early 90s and Im sure things have only gotten worse in SF since. There was two families and a weird uncle living in the house, tho. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956106938] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite> <quote>Full House was big in the early 90s and Im sure things have only gotten worse in SF since.</quote>There was two families and a weird uncle living in the house, tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 07/15/21 11:51:15 AM #17:	There are people working 2 jobs and are homeless. People don't wanna see what they don't wanna see. Every one likes to complain and do nothing but shit on activists who try to change it. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:956106945] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>There are people working 2 jobs and are homeless. People don't wanna see what they don't wanna see. Every one likes to complain and do nothing but shit on activists who try to change it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 07/15/21 11:52:48 AM #18:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing. It's not about building more houses, we have the houses, it's just bought up and owned by renters creating artificial scarcity. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:956106986] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing is really stopping California from building fucktons of public housing.</quote>It's not about building more houses, we have the houses, it's just bought up and owned by renters creating artificial scarcity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 07/15/21 11:53:49 AM #19:	To be fair, it's plenty of people pulling 6 figures in Cali --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:956107017] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, it's plenty of people pulling 6 figures in Cali </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/15/21 11:53:50 AM #20:	Live in a church <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956107018] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Live in a church </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 07/15/21 12:08:34 PM #22:	Lol Cali --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:956107440] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Lol Cali</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 07/15/21 12:09:40 PM #23:	Eh... The needing 4 jobs thing is definitely hyperbole, but yeah, it's pretty bad how much someone making minimum wage will struggle trying to live on their own in California. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:956107470] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Eh... The needing 4 jobs thing is definitely hyperbole, but yeah, it's pretty bad how much someone making minimum wage will struggle trying to live on their own in California. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 07/15/21 12:10:00 PM #24:	Damn, thats even worse than apartments in NYC --- I'm the fly in the ointment, the spanner in the works. I'm unpredictable. I'm the X-Factor. - Jamie Madrox <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:956107475] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Damn, thats even worse than apartments in NYC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 07/15/21 12:12:31 PM #25:	I wonder how many are actually paid minimum wage though. My understanding is that SF companies pay more than typical due to the higher cost of living. Also most dont live in the city but commute to it. Though its a shitty commute for sure. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:956107553] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how many are actually paid minimum wage though. My understanding is that SF companies pay more than typical due to the higher cost of living. Also most dont live in the city but commute to it. Though its a shitty commute for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 07/15/21 6:04:12 PM #26:	I know a lot of adults here in the Bay Area who are still living with their parents, even with the grandchildren. Minimum wage sucks --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:956119828] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>I know a lot of adults here in the Bay Area who are still living with their parents, even with the grandchildren. Minimum wage sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/15/21 6:08:11 PM #27:	How people view this as a wage issue and not a housing shortage issue is beyond me. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956119976] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>How people view this as a wage issue and not a housing shortage issue is beyond me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MixedRaceBaby 07/15/21 7:04:42 PM #28:	Broseph_Stalin posted... How people view this as a wage issue and not a housing shortage issue is beyond me. i mean its both. unless you wanna pay me 45 dollars an hour to work at mcdonalds --- For the mixed race babies! <cite>MixedRaceBaby posted [p:956121874] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>How people view this as a wage issue and not a housing shortage issue is beyond me.</quote>i mean its both. unless you wanna pay me 45 dollars an hour to work at mcdonalds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 07/15/21 7:16:51 PM #29:	Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:956122256] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/15/21 7:19:37 PM #30:	Prismsblade posted... Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them. so what about all the jobs in the city that need to be done that only pay minimum wage? Do you think people are gonna commute into SF for $15 an hour? And just imagine how much traffic there would be if that actually happened --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:956122351] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them.</quote> so what about all the jobs in the city that need to be done that only pay minimum wage? Do you think people are gonna commute into SF for $15 an hour? And just imagine how much traffic there would be if that actually happened </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 07/15/21 7:24:31 PM #31:	thronedfire2 posted... so what about all the jobs in the city that need to be done that only pay minimum wage? Do you think people are gonna commute into SF for $15 an hour? And just imagine how much traffic there would be if that actually happened That's for the city and it's citizens to figure out if they don't even want to relax it's building codes. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:956122506] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite> <quote>so what about all the jobs in the city that need to be done that only pay minimum wage? Do you think people are gonna commute into SF for $15 an hour? And just imagine how much traffic there would be if that actually happened</quote>That's for the city and it's citizens to figure out if they don't even want to relax it's building codes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 07/15/21 10:53:07 PM #32:	pinky0926 posted... Don't all those rich people like coffee and eating at restaurants though? Like what the fuck do the hospitality people do to survive there? Commute for an hour+ MixedRaceBaby posted... you know, i thought that when covid hit and all the rich tech folks left and started working from home, housing prices would go back down. but nope, now these rich tech fucks just own 2 houses and are raising the prices of homes in both neighborhoods they live in. That's how it is on this bitch of an Earth --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:956128776] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>Don't all those rich people like coffee and eating at restaurants though? Like what the fuck do the hospitality people do to survive there?</quote>Commute for an hour+ MixedRaceBaby posted... </cite> <quote>you know, i thought that when covid hit and all the rich tech folks left and started working from home, housing prices would go back down. but nope, now these rich tech fucks just own 2 houses and are raising the prices of homes in both neighborhoods they live in.</quote>That's how it is on this bitch of an Earth </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/15/21 10:55:10 PM #33:	Prismsblade posted... Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them. According to NPR, the places you can afford a not-shithole place on minimum wage are essentially nowhere. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/14/1016230724/rents-are-out-of-reach-for-most-americans-earning-minimum-wage-a-study-says Also shitholes have been zoned and coded out of existence. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956128824] in you need t... [t:79565657]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>Why do articles such as these continue cherry picking the same high cost citys in regards to housing prices? If entitled morons want to try and live there on minimum wage then that's on them.</quote>According to NPR, the places you can afford a not-shithole place on minimum wage are essentially nowhere. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/14/1016230724/rents-are-out-of-reach-for-most-americans-earning-minimum-wage-a-study-says Also shitholes have been zoned and coded out of existence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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