Current Events > My local Denny's still can't find staff after Ohio killed bonus UI 3 weeks ago

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I went for breakfast yesterday. They had one line cook and just the manager on-duty waiting tables. Manager was going back and forth from tables to kitchen to help the cook. I asked her why so shorthanded?. She said she scheduled 6 interviews and none of them showed up. Said they were down to 4 servers and 5 line cooks on their roster. They pay cooks 10.50/hr and servers 4.50/hr plus tips. She said she's been working 80 hour weeks for months. I wished her well.

My own job is still having problems finding staff too. It took us a month to fill a position and they quit after 2 days of training.

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It's almost like wages that low aren't worth the misery. Especially if you're already miserable, why add miserable and exhausted to your plate.


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Companies that consider tips a part of their payment are fucking garbage

Iirc, Sonic does the same thing. They pay you well below minimum, but allow you tips to compensate. I think stuff like that should be illegal


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DuranOfForcena posted...

lmao at those pathetic wages, no fucking wonder no one wants to work there

This.

If I was that manager I'd be looking for a way out. Working 80 hour weeks and making less than I do working 40.

Fuck that.

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Restaurants are stupid.

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I still cant believe that these companies still cant get it through their thick heads:

If you want people to work for you, you have to give them a reason to want to work there.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

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DuranOfForcena posted...

lmao at those pathetic wages, no fucking wonder no one wants to work there

I make 11:50 AND tips at my place. No wonder Danny's can't hire(Granted my place has staffing issues too but not litwrwlly 2 employees counting management on bad.)

I feel like understaffed kinda self perputating too. New people more likely to quit because the fuckery of being understaffed.

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Yeah, the 4 dollar an hour because you get tips is such bullshit

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rexcrk posted...

I still cant believe that these companies still cant get it through their thick heads:

If you want people to work for you, you have to give them a reason to want to work there.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

They're holding out in hopes of the status quo rettuning and these people having to return to work for the same shit wages and benefits


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and this is why you KNOW conservatives aren't being genuine when they say "IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING OUR JOBS"...bull shit. you wouldn't work that fuckin job for low pay like they do. Fuck outta here.

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rexcrk posted...

I still cant believe that these companies still cant get it through their thick heads:

If you want people to work for you, you have to give them a reason to want to work there.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

And affect the shareholders bottom line? Madness

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ExtremeLuchador posted...

They pay cooks 10.50/hr and servers 4.50/hr plus tips.

Gee I wonder why they're struggling.

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M_Live posted...

You're supposed to tip at Sonic? Fuck me I had no idea, I doubt anybody does

Huh. About a decade ago I asked a worker that and she said they get paid regular wages, which is why they dont ask for tips

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With those wages I can see why nobody wants to work there.

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ExtremeLuchador posted...

They pay cooks 10.50/hr and servers 4.50/hr plus tips.

you can't even afford Dennys on that kind of pay does Denny realize this

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Null_Gain posted...

Huh. About a decade ago I asked a worker that and she said they get paid regular wages, which is why they dont ask for tips

Maybe it's store-dependent? I've been to some Sonics where they specifically ask you if you want change (several dollars worth) and I'm like...yes, I do.

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BakonBitz posted...

Maybe it's franchise-dependent? I've been to some Sonics where they specifically ask you if you want change (several dollars worth) and I'm like...yes, I do.

Possibly. Or maybe she didn't know any better and assumed it was the norm?

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Maybe companies have to work harder to get people to work for them.

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Guarantee I make more money pushing carts than that manager does.

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Slapped by the invisible hand.

10.50 isn't even enough to eat at Dennys.

That manager should quit too, thats ridiculous

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But think about CEO who needs to afford another nesting doll yacht

Samurontai posted...

, Sonic does the same thing. They pay you well below minimum, but allow you tips to compensate

Really? I never tip at sonic. They just walk the food out to me. No different than a drive thru at McDonald's

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M_Live posted...

You're supposed to tip at Sonic? Fuck me I had no idea, I doubt anybody does

This is one of the worst parts of tipping culture for me where I will sometimes have no clue who the fuck im supposed to tip. And then I find out later I was supposed to tip someone I didn't and feel like crap about it. Like there was this one dude in a parking garage I apparently was supposed to. And this one outside bag check spot at the airport. Then later I mention to someone I did the thing and they're like "oh did you tip them?? You're supposed to"

WELL HOW THE FUCK AM I MEANT TO KNOW THAT THEN

We've reached peak greed.

The iron law of wages is that people will pay the minimum amount it takes to keep people from starving. Yet, we actually live in a generation where employers want to pay less than what it realistically takes to keep someone alive.

People are supposed to pack into apartments like rats, split meals, and use food stamps to supplement. It's mortifying.

FortuneCookie posted...

The iron law of wages is that people will pay the minimum amount it takes to keep people from starving.

No. The de fact minimum wage is the lowest pay where someone actually shows up.

Minimum salary(overtime exempt) is only $684 per week per federal gov't. So 70-80 hours per week would get you like $8.50 per hour.

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creativerealms posted...

Maybe companies have to work harder to get people to work for them.

Workers are part of the marketplace after all.

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The story is the same across the country. American workers aren't lazy, they're getting smarter.

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Yeah
I'm attempting to hire seasonal employees (August-May) $15/hr to do some pretty easy data entry stuff. Half of the people haven't shown up to the interview. The people that have are overall better quality than I've found in the past though which is nice.

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rexcrk posted...

I still cant believe that these companies still cant get it through their thick heads:

If you want people to work for you, you have to give them a reason to want to work there.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

Most of these employers have this entitled attitude like they're gods, and honestly think we should be groveling just for the privilege to work and have a job.

Grueling work for little pay?

I wonder why no one is lining up...

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Rexdragon125 posted...

But think about CEO who needs to afford another nesting doll yacht

B-b-but actually the CEO has little liquid money! They're basically middle class!

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PesticideDream posted...

Most of these employers have this entitled attitude like they're gods, and honestly think we should be groveling just for the privilege to work and have a job.

And there are politicians and voters who think we need to force workers no choice but to accept, rather than actually improve the jobs.

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PesticideDream posted...

Most of these employers have this entitled attitude like they're gods, and honestly think we should be groveling just for the privilege to work and have a job.

Yeah, that's a really weird thing. Those jobs don't pay shit, but they essentially guilt trip people into thinking the job is critical for your life and your career moving forward.

TJ Maxx tried to do that shit to me. They were paying me $7.75/hour. I told them that I needed 35 - 40 hours/week. It's a lot for a retail place to just give a new guy 35 - 40 hours, but they wouldn't give me any more than 20. I was overdrafting on my bank account just trying to pay for gas to make it to work some weeks. Then they were spreading those 20 hours out over 5 days and I was closing every day.

Then they cut me down to 15 hours per week. I quit with no notice. I didn't give a shit. I got another job where I could work 40 hours consistently, so TJ Maxx didn't matter to me any more. The store manager tried to guilt trip me and say that quitting with no notice would be bad for my career because I wouldn't be able to use them as a reference.

• No job after that has even asked about my experience at TJ Maxx because the job experience wasn't relevant.
• ~15 years later, I still include them on my resume just to show my full work history, but no company has even bothered to ask about my experience there. Because it doesn't matter.

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What the manager didnt tell you is that there are fifteen other workers on staff, but corporate will not allow them to have more people on the floor because theyre too cheap to write the checks.

Also, we should all be boycotting any kind of restaurant. Youre literally enabling worker abuse by putting money in the business when theyre treating the workers like tools.

PesticideDream posted...

Most of these employers have this entitled attitude like they're gods, and honestly think we should be groveling just for the privilege to work and have a job.

that's how unearned power works. the pendulum has built up a lot of momentum, though, so this swing back is gonna be ugly for a lot of people on either side and really good for a few.

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Why is she still offering such low pay, but here's the said part if she met the $15 hour standard, she still will not include any benefits....

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FortuneCookie posted...

We've reached peak greed.

The iron law of wages is that people will pay the minimum amount it takes to keep people from starving. Yet, we actually live in a generation where employers want to pay less than what it realistically takes to keep someone alive.

People are supposed to pack into apartments like rats, split meals, and use food stamps to supplement. It's mortifying.

Because the American dream is dead, all the money goes to the top 1% who don't pay any taxes

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CableZL posted...

Yeah, that's a really weird thing. Those jobs don't pay shit, but they essentially guilt trip people into thinking the job is critical for your life and your career moving forward.

i worked a fuckload of shitty retail jobs, a call center, and an office job before i made it to my current profession. i've been fired twice, was about to be fired before i walked out another time, and on other occasions i quit but was put in as a fire

i only got a bad reference once and in hindsight i could have easily avoided it (this led to the time that i would have got fired if i didn't walk out, but i hated the fuck out of that job and my boss was harassing me and i think she would've found something else to hang me on if she could've)

i've since been hired to do my dream job, have excellent job security, and everything is going to be smooth sailing from hereon out

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DaveTheUseless posted...

i've since been hired to do my dream job, have excellent job security, and everything is going to be smooth sailing from hereon out

that's awesome, man! congratulations!! :) enjoy life :)

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DaveTheUseless posted...

i worked a fuckload of shitty retail jobs, a call center, and an office job before i made it to my current profession. i've been fired twice, was about to be fired before i walked out another time, and on other occasions i quit but was put in as a fire

i only got a bad reference once and in hindsight i could have easily avoided it (this led to the time that i would have got fired if i didn't walk out, but i hated the fuck out of that job and my boss was harassing me and i think she would've found something else to hang me on if she could've)

i've since been hired to do my dream job, have excellent job security, and everything is going to be smooth sailing from hereon out

what industry? I worry about it sometimes but in good careers your work speaks for you

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pure_temper posted...

that's awesome, man! congratulations!! :) enjoy life :)

thx homie!

berlyman101 posted...

what industry? I worry about it sometimes but in good careers your work speaks for you

tenure track college faculty. i had a zillion interviews and turned down a place that wanted me so badly that they tried to get me to reneg on a commitment to another school (i felt bad about it, but given that i couldn't satisfy both places, it is what it is)

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rexcrk posted...

I still cant believe that these companies still cant get it through their thick heads:

If you want people to work for you, you have to give them a reason to want to work there.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

It's gaslighting.

People need an actual incentive to work. That's how it's always worked. Nobody wants to exhaust themselves for table scraps.

Employers are instead trying to flip it as people being too lazy, when the reality is that the stress and anxiety involved with these jobs aren't worth the laughable pay that doesn't even cover rent anymore.


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DaveTheUseless posted...

thx homie!

tenure track college faculty. i had a zillion interviews and turned down a place that wanted me so badly that they tried to get me to reneg on a commitment to another school (i felt bad about it, but given that i couldn't satisfy both places, it is what it is)

that's awesome, what's your area, if you don't mind?

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