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wackyteen
07/11/21 9:56:55 PM
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RIP Bartre, this might be more painful if Marcus couldn't use Axes and if this wasn't just a Normal run.

but you don't shun RNGesus blessing your thief with a +1 in HP, Str, Skill, Spd, Def and Res all at once <______<

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dotsdfe
07/11/21 10:08:32 PM
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Probably not worth it, Matthew is really mediocre at combat unless you get absurdly lucky a lot, but ehhh.

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ElatedVenusaur
07/11/21 10:14:02 PM
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Bartres not really good anyway. But Matthew isnt a great combat unit anyway.

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wackyteen
07/11/21 10:22:47 PM
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I've gotten a good amount of kills out of Matthew tbh.

Way more than I'd have expected. Also his speed is like 18 and he's only Level 9. <_<

He doubles everything and most things not-armored he can 2HKO with a Steel Sword.

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ShyOx
07/11/21 10:23:25 PM
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DespondentDeity
07/11/21 10:25:13 PM
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ShyOx posted...
Whats fe7

Fire Emblem Rekka no Ken

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wackyteen
07/11/21 10:55:39 PM
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And now Rebecca gets sacrificed to protect a +7 level up for Hector.

Almost worth resetting since she was Level 9 and has gotten a lot of kills tbh

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SkyUmbreon
07/11/21 10:58:40 PM
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Rebecca ended up being pretty good for me.

Then again, her competition was Wil, who is...Wil

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Turbam
07/11/21 10:59:22 PM
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Imagine not resetting after a unit dies

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ZMythos
07/11/21 11:02:38 PM
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I did a mounted-units-only run recently. I had Kent, Sain, and Lowen each specialize in swords, lances, and axes respectively. Florina and Fiora were great with their support. Priscilla was my healer but I had to be careful not to S-rank staves before magic. Heath and Vaida, whom I never use normally. And Eliwood and Hector since it was Eliwood mode.

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MedeaLysistrata
07/11/21 11:04:19 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I did a mounted-units-only run recently. I had Kent, Sain, and Lowen each specialize in swords, lances, and axes respectively. Florina and Fiora were great with their support. Priscilla was my healer but I had to be careful not to S-rank staves before magic. Heath and Vaida, whom I never use normally. And Eliwood and Hector since it was Eliwood mode.
No Rath? Lol

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ZMythos
07/11/21 11:05:19 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
No Rath? Lol
The roster was getting pretty full already and I don't like bows that much. Plus he starts on E swords and that's just not fun.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/11/21 11:05:31 PM
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dotsdfe posted...
Probably not worth it, Matthew is really mediocre at combat unless you get absurdly lucky a lot, but ehhh.
Assassins are absurdly OP in my experience. Its been a while since Ive played. But even Jaffar, who comes late game pre-promoted, just 1-shots everything
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dotsdfe
07/11/21 11:05:38 PM
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SkyUmbreon posted...
Rebecca ended up being pretty good for me.

Then again, her competition was Wil, who is...Wil

It's more like Rath.

Which is also the reason why nobody ever uses either one of the former two.

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dotsdfe
07/11/21 11:09:45 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Assassins are absurdly OP in my experience. Its been a while since Ive played. But even Jaffar, who comes late game pre-promoted, just 1-shots everything

Ehhh.

Silencer is okay, but unreliable as hell. Matthew/Legault don't really have the growths to be all that good unless you get really lucky, either with growths or with Silencer procs.

Jaffar is a good lategame prepromote, but most FE7 prepromotes are really good.

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SkyUmbreon
07/11/21 11:15:16 PM
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dotsdfe posted...
It's more like Rath.

Which is also the reason why nobody ever uses either one of the former two.
He came in a little too late for me. They were both performing well enough that I didn't the point of benching one for Rath.

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Compsognathus
07/11/21 11:34:10 PM
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wackyteen posted...
And now Rebecca gets sacrificed to protect a +7 level up for Hector.

Almost worth resetting since she was Level 9 and has gotten a lot of kills tbh
Rebecca is 100% worth sacrificing for a good level up. Or just because you don't want to spend half an hour redoing the level.

Because GBA archers are terrible.

Kloe_Rinz posted...
Assassins are absurdly OP in my experience. Its been a while since Ive played. But even Jaffar, who comes late game pre-promoted, just 1-shots everything

Assassins are pretty bad. Sword-locked. Low-damage. Low-durability. Expensive promotion item. Just use Matthew until you get Legault then Legault for all your stealing/pick needs for the rest of the game on relevant chapters. It isn't worth having a dedicated slot for a thief or bothering to male them an Assassin.

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wackyteen
07/11/21 11:51:39 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Rebecca is 100% worth sacrificing for a good level up. Or just because you don't want to spend half an hour redoing the level.

Because GBA archers are terrible.
I wound up having to reset to save Lucius anyways so Rebecca lives.


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Umbreon
07/11/21 11:54:00 PM
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The only use Bartre has is unlocking Karla

And LMFAO caring about Karla who is probably the absolute worst character in the game.

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Wedge Antilles
07/11/21 11:57:22 PM
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Shame on you. No man gets left behind.

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ElatedVenusaur
07/12/21 12:14:56 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
Rebecca is 100% worth sacrificing for a good level up. Or just because you don't want to spend half an hour redoing the level.

Because GBA archers are terrible.

Assassins are pretty bad. Sword-locked. Low-damage. Low-durability. Expensive promotion item. Just use Matthew until you get Legault then Legault for all your stealing/pick needs for the rest of the game on relevant chapters. It isn't worth having a dedicated slot for a thief or bothering to male them an Assassin.
I really think they thought archers were OP or something. Even the prepromotes are mediocre! Somehow they missed the fact that mages exist, have all of an archers' upside, except literally none of the downsides.

Jaffar at least comes with beefy bases. He's no Pent or Harken, but he can do some work. Louise is just a glorified stat stick for Pent, and she's still the best archer.

Umbreon posted...
The only use Bartre has is unlocking Karla

And LMFAO caring about Karla who is probably the absolute worst character in the game.
That's not true: he has some funny supports! And he will one day have a banging mustache.

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GallisOTK
07/12/21 12:45:13 AM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Louise is just a glorified stat stick for Pent, and she's still the best archer.

Geitz is the best archer in FE7 and he's not even in an archer class.
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Bad_Mojo
07/12/21 1:12:09 AM
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Why are you not doing a solo run? Give them all the potions, and let the Army break on you

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Bad_Mojo
07/12/21 1:13:35 AM
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Turbam posted...
Imagine not resetting after a unit dies

Then you just use the same ones over and over again. This way you use the ones you never use and get dialogue you haven't read between units

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dotsdfe
07/12/21 1:28:59 AM
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I'm running an ironman (for Sacred Stones) for the first time ever, and it's honestly tough not to reset for my favorites.

It's in video series form, though, so I'm obligated to keep it up. I was really sad when I lost Lute and Artur, though, because I like both.

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Delirious_Beard
07/12/21 6:09:28 PM
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dotsdfe posted...
Probably not worth it, Matthew is really mediocre at combat unless you get absurdly lucky a lot, but ehhh.

thief utility is still more useful than anything bartre offers

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Compsognathus
07/12/21 6:59:18 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
thief utility is still more useful than anything bartre offers
Sure but a perfect level-up doesn't really impact thief utility. They only care about speed. So that in itself doesn't justify sacrificing Bartre.

Not that you need to justify it. "I don't want to spend 15 minutes redoing this chapter" is a perfectly reasonable reason to sacrifice a Bartre tier unit.

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wackyteen
07/12/21 9:36:58 PM
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Let's check in on Sain

19 Strength at Level 15

>_________>

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wackyteen
07/12/21 9:47:23 PM
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Fiora shows up and... immediately attacks an enemy Nomad.

<_____< Is this supposed to show she's brave or stupid?

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wackyteen
07/12/21 10:22:14 PM
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Sain casually 1% crits the map boss with a Horseslayer.

It's like adding insult to injury

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legendarylemur
07/12/21 10:32:23 PM
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Imagine not sacrificing +6 lvl up on Matthew for the greatest waifu Wo Dao (and also Karla)

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ZMythos
07/12/21 11:36:41 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Fiora shows up and... immediately attacks an enemy Nomad.

<_____< Is this supposed to show she's brave or stupid?
Fiora has kinda crap bases for the map she joins in on, but her promote is solid.

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Distant_Rainbow
07/13/21 12:13:17 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Fiora shows up and... immediately attacks an enemy Nomad.

<_____< Is this supposed to show she's brave or stupid?

It's supposed to show she's suicidal.

Read the actual dialogue before judging things plz

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Naysaspace
07/13/21 12:16:12 AM
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i couldn't play a FE game without keeping literally everyone alive.

stupid ocd

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Kircheis
07/13/21 12:26:58 AM
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I feel like this is a great topic to mention that I've been watching a playthrough of Hector Hard Mode where a human controls the enemy army. (Eventual spoilers.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RsbLv01Qwc

It's surprisingly fun seeing how a human player would use the enemy formations in this game. Also very enlightening as to how unkillable Hector, Marcus and Oswin are in the early game lol.
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dotsdfe
07/13/21 12:40:41 AM
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Kircheis posted...
I feel like this is a great topic to mention that I've been watching a playthrough of Hector Hard Mode where a human controls the enemy army. (Eventual spoilers.)



It's surprisingly fun seeing how a human player would use the enemy formations in this game. Also very enlightening as to how unkillable Hector, Marcus and Oswin are in the early game lol.

That series is really fun. A really rad streamer that I mod for (SpeedyHawk) was on one of them, but sadly he lost pretty badly.

Really cool idea, though.

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