Current Events > Series X is more powerful than PS5 but PS5 >>>> Series X, right?

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SrRd_RacinG
07/09/21 1:30:16 PM
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Am I understanding that correctly?

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VitalGetPrank
07/09/21 1:31:28 PM
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A weaker console can easily be better than a more powerful one by selection of games alone. It's not a hard concept to grasp >_>

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FabIe
07/09/21 1:32:15 PM
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The way I see it is while the Sexbox has better hardware, the PS5 has vetter exclusives. You can play and Sexbox exclusives on PC so it'd be optimal to have a PC, PS5, and Switch.

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 1:32:35 PM
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Honestly at this point the diminishing returns in GPU performance are so significant that I'm not sure we'll ever see a multiplatform game where the Xbox version is significantly better than the PS5 version.

We've actually seen more examples of why Xbox is better due to variable refresh support, and a (small) handful of examples of the PS5's very slightly faster load times. But in both cases, it's not a big difference.

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Lairen
07/09/21 1:33:05 PM
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If you have a ps4 wouldnt you want a series x for BC and current gen of games you couldnt play with a sony console?

My logic anyways.

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 1:38:18 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
PS5 isn't even backwards compatible.

Excuse me, what

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bnui_ransder
07/09/21 1:40:35 PM
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The tech demo and speed on PS5 seemed incredible

The hardware stats on the Series X sound incredible

But there aren't really any or enough games on either to compare yet

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Pepys Monster
07/09/21 1:42:05 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Excuse me, what
Okay, it's BC with PS4. I thought Sony made an announcement a while back that the PS5 would only play PS5 games.

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Heavy_D_Forever
07/09/21 1:42:45 PM
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If you don't have a Gaming PC then Series X + Gamepass is the best value right now. PS5 doesn't have enough exclusives yet to justify the purchase for me.

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Smashingpmkns
07/09/21 1:44:00 PM
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Neither really have the exclusives to say one is better than the other right now.
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SrRd_RacinG
07/09/21 1:44:40 PM
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This is the first time I won't buy a launch console until the slim or pro version comes out.

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Funkydog
07/09/21 1:45:56 PM
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No one can get either
Both have barely any games
Microsoft has gamepass

So basically both consoles are whatever if you have internet/computer good enough for gamepass or able to stream them.

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FabIe
07/09/21 1:46:48 PM
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Really the ps5 and sexbox launch should've been delayed to build more supply and actually have games.

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sktgamer_13dude
07/09/21 1:49:17 PM
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FabIe posted...
Really the ps5 and sexbox launch should've been delayed to build more supply and actually have games.

I mean pretty sure both are going to support the PS4/Xbox One gen for a couple years, so any game that comes out on new gen will likely be on those and the whole hur dur no games!!!! will still be said ad nasuem.
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Lost_All_Senses
07/09/21 1:49:57 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
A weaker console can easily be better than a more powerful one by selection of games alone. It's not a hard concept to grasp >_>

It's not about playing games, it's about comparing very small details you will hardly even stop to notice unless you specifically look for it. And when you do, you will be like "oh, neat" and then not think about it again.

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DravenRainrix
07/09/21 1:50:59 PM
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Depends how you look at it

Xbox has Velocity, which hasn't really been showcased fully yet.
Xbox has full RDNA2, PS5 doesn't.
Xbox has smart delivery where your game save is available where ever you play the game, PS5 make it quite difficult.
Xbox upgrades to next gen free with smart delivery, PS5 charge for next gen upgrades.
Xbox first party exclusives will launch day and date anywhere that GamePass is available, PS5 charge 70 per game.
Xbox is working out ways to bring Series Console games to XboxOne consoles, tablets, phones, browser etc using Xcloud, giving them a possible pool of players in the billions, PS5 promised games are exclusive and you'll need a PS5 to play them, then release them on PS4 or PC later on.
So on and so on.

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FL81
07/09/21 2:03:36 PM
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XSeX is stronger than PS5

PC is the best overall

Switch has portability + Nintendo exclusives

there's really no reason to even get a PS5

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Tyranthraxus
07/09/21 2:05:06 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Okay, it's BC with PS4. I thought Sony made an announcement a while back that the PS5 would only play PS5 games.

IIRC that's a mangled across the grapevine statement about PS5 versions of PS4 games.

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 2:06:30 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Depends how you look at it

Xbox has Velocity, which hasn't really been showcased fully yet.
Xbox has full RDNA2, PS5 doesn't.
Xbox has smart delivery where your game save is available where ever you play the game, PS5 make it quite difficult.
Xbox upgrades to next gen free with smart delivery, PS5 charge for next gen upgrades.
Xbox first party exclusives will launch day and date anywhere that GamePass is available, PS5 charge 70 per game.
Xbox is working out ways to bring Series Console games to XboxOne consoles, tablets, phones, browser etc using Xcloud, giving them a possible pool of players in the billions, PS5 promised games are exclusive and you'll need a PS5 to play them, then release them on PS4 or PC later on.
So on and so on.

Counter:

Microsoft overpromises and under-delivers every generation since Day 1.


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Funkydog
07/09/21 2:07:35 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Counter:

Microsoft overpromises and under-delivers every generation since Day 1.
I mean, that's basically any (game) company ever. Very few that doesn't apply to.

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Lord_Shadow
07/09/21 2:08:13 PM
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Xbox in the coming years will also have better exclusives then the PS5

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 2:09:33 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I mean, that's basically any (game) company ever. Very few that doesn't apply to.

Microsoft literally won awards for E3 2014 for announcing Scalebound, Fable Legends, Project Spark and Phantom Dust. You might have noticed those games all have something in common.


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DarkChozoGhost
07/09/21 2:14:23 PM
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Series X has a much better UI.

Sony is always a distant, distant 3rd in UI.

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Funkydog
07/09/21 2:32:30 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Microsoft literally won awards for E3 2014 for announcing Scalebound, Fable Legends, Project Spark and Phantom Dust. You might have noticed those games all have something in common.
All two words! ...Ish

...Right?

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Jabodie
07/09/21 2:39:15 PM
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XSX is probably a better platform overall, and it'll have the bonus of those Bethesda exclusives soon (if they don't ruin the company somehow). Smart delivery and extensive BC are very nice too. I've probably played a dozen or so 360 games on my XBoneX. When I get a hankering, I'll go on ebay to pick up a 360 game then pop it into my console. Smart delivery is more important in these transition years, but it's still nice compared to PS5's equivalents.

PS5 has some exclusives, though. And if current PS4 games are anything to go by, you'll be waiting a while for the PC ports of those (unlike MS games). Sony exclusives typically avoid annoying business practices, where some MS games have embraced them fully.

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Jagr_68
07/09/21 6:30:34 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Neither really have the exclusives to say one is better than the other right now.

PS5 has Demon's Souls while Xbox has none so according to my calculations 1 is greater than 0 ie. PS5 = better

lol


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SrRd_RacinG
07/09/21 6:31:47 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
PS5 has Demon's Souls while Xbox has none so according to my calculations 1 is greater than 0 ie. PS5 = better

lol

AND Returnal.

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Ratchetrockon
07/09/21 7:28:40 PM
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Since i pretty much only use a pc for gaming atm the only console of the two that i want is a ps5. It only has 1 game i want to play tho

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ViewtifulGrave
07/09/21 7:36:08 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Xbox upgrades to next gen free with smart delivery, PS5 charge for next gen upgrades.
This is false. Sony leaves it up to the developer.

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NoxObscuras
07/09/21 7:42:13 PM
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FL81 posted...
XSeX is stronger than PS5

PC is the best overall

Switch has portability + Nintendo exclusives

there's really no reason to even get a PS5
Well if you're including PC, then it should be PC for multiplatform games and PS5/Switch for their exclusives.

The only thing holding me to consoles at this point is exclusives. If Nintendo and Sony start releasing all of their games day 1 on PC like Microsoft, then I'd completely skip the next consoles lol.

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El Mexicano Texano
07/09/21 8:20:17 PM
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I have RetroArch on mines and Gamepass it's amazing

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Darmik
07/09/21 8:27:29 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Well if you're including PC, then it should be PC for multiplatform games and PS5/Switch for their exclusives.

The only thing holding me to consoles at this point is exclusives. If Nintendo and Sony start releasing all of their games day 1 on PC like Microsoft, then I'd completely skip the next consoles lol.

If you're patient and don't need to play first party games day one it would probably be a good idea to see how Sony handles late PC ports. There's more coming.

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 9:15:26 PM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
AND Returnal.

And Ratchet, and soon Horizon, then God of War early next year

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 9:16:12 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
Sony first party games charge money

They're also not glorified microtransaction shells like modern Forza and the rest of MS's lineup

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apocalyptic_4
07/09/21 10:07:39 PM
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Meh I bought both at launch and play my series X alot more than my ps5 that remains off for weeks at a time.

I appreciate the qaulity of life features the series x has like quick resume, snappy and fast UI, more 120fps games and vrr along with gamepass and auto hdr with BC games.

Just enjoying playing through older games with the new features tbh and every game is getting next gen updates. Only enjoyed spiderman remaster on the ps5, demon souls and rachet and clank are both just boring to play.

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 10:48:57 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
sure, theyre not, but they also charge money which was the point of the post

I'd rather pay money for a whole game instead of F2P leeching, honestly.

It's why, while I do admit Nintendo are greedy bastards with overpriced games, I still would rather buy a Nintendo game.

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Joeydollaz
07/09/21 10:50:01 PM
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In gaming history

that has always been the case

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DarkRoast
07/09/21 11:00:20 PM
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Ori was the first game I completed on my Series X and it was 10/10

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