Current Events > Why does this board defends age gap relationship so much?

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Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 6:54:39 PM #1:	What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955777433] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 07/05/21 6:56:02 PM #2:	Because it's mostly dudes in their 30s. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:955777473] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Because it's mostly dudes in their 30s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 07/05/21 6:56:03 PM #3:	Are you still pretending to be 14 <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:955777474] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Are you still pretending to be 14</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 07/05/21 6:56:18 PM #4:	This is like the only thing you make topics about. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:955777485] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>This is like the only thing you make topics about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 6:56:34 PM #5:	nothanks1 posted... Are you still pretending to be 14 I am 22 years old and mature enough to see red flags ^_^ --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955777495] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>nothanks1 posted... </cite> <quote>Are you still pretending to be 14</quote> I am 22 years old and mature enough to see red flags ^_^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 07/05/21 6:58:36 PM #6:	A friend's parents are 12 years apart and have been together nearly 30 years. My parents couldn't even make it 2 years and they have the same age gap lol. I don't think there is something inherently wrong with age gaps. --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:955777544] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>A friend's parents are 12 years apart and have been together nearly 30 years. My parents couldn't even make it 2 years and they have the same age gap lol. I don't think there is something inherently wrong with age gaps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 07/05/21 6:58:39 PM #7:	You don't need common ground to fuck Yeah bro! --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:955777546] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>You don't need common ground to fuck Yeah bro! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/05/21 6:59:04 PM #8:	To 500! --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:955777558] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>To 500! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 07/05/21 7:06:56 PM #10:	>implying I have anything in common with other 30 year olds Seriously, I never understood this angle. Other people I know in their 30s are boring as hell and never have the same interests or hobbies I do. --- IDD <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:955777778] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>>implying I have anything in common with other 30 year olds Seriously, I never understood this angle. Other people I know in their 30s are boring as hell and never have the same interests or hobbies I do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 07/05/21 7:08:04 PM #11:	I probably have more in common with 20 year olds than 30 year olds. As their generation is more open to video games and general weeb behavior that our generation labeled as nerds. --- https://imgur.com/ca2qBa1 ^My wife <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:955777813] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>I probably have more in common with 20 year olds than 30 year olds. As their generation is more open to video games and general weeb behavior that our generation labeled as nerds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 07/05/21 7:11:08 PM #12:	16-BITTER posted... What's the lore here again? This dude's crush banged an older guy so he's butthurt for life? Lmao. If I remember correctly that what it was. Thank you for reminding me. Can we talk about the OP's lack of relationship? --- Dragaux for smash! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:955777910] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>What's the lore here again? This dude's crush banged an older guy so he's butthurt for life? </quote> Lmao. If I remember correctly that what it was. Thank you for reminding me. Can we talk about the OP's lack of relationship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 07/05/21 7:42:17 PM #13:	It's Matt Gaetz and all his alts posting those topics. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:955778958] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>It's Matt Gaetz and all his alts posting those topics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 07/05/21 7:48:21 PM #14:	Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? Better question: Why do you care what a couple has in common? Why is this even a requirement for the relationship to be ok? Last I checked, the important part of a relationship is that they enjoy each other's company. As long as they aren't breaking any laws, it's nobody's business but their own why they're together. --- Currently playing: DFFOO, FFBE - 437,696,421 <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:955779161] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... </cite> <quote>What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? </quote> Better question: Why do you care what a couple has in common? Why is this even a requirement for the relationship to be ok? Last I checked, the important part of a relationship is that they enjoy each other's company. As long as they aren't breaking any laws, it's nobody's business but their own why they're together. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 07/05/21 7:49:58 PM #15:	KeeperOfShadows posted... Better question: Why do you care what a couple has in common? Why is this even a requirement for the relationship to be ok? Last I checked, the important part of a relationship is that they enjoy each other's company. As long as they aren't breaking any laws, it's nobody's business but their own why they're together. ^ this dude hangs outside of high schools at the end of the school day. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:955779214] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>KeeperOfShadows posted... </cite> <quote>Better question: Why do you care what a couple has in common? Why is this even a requirement for the relationship to be ok? Last I checked, the important part of a relationship is that they enjoy each other's company. As long as they aren't breaking any laws, it's nobody's business but their own why they're together.</quote>^ this dude hangs outside of high schools at the end of the school day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/05/21 7:51:06 PM #16:	wonder what the cops will find on tc's hard drive --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955779252] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>wonder what the cops will find on tc's hard drive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 07/05/21 7:51:57 PM #17:	ooger posted... ^ this dude hangs outside of high schools at the end of the school day. Flawless counter argument. Your wisdom speaks volumes. --- Currently playing: DFFOO, FFBE - 437,696,421 <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:955779280] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite> <quote>^ this dude hangs outside of high schools at the end of the school day.</quote> Flawless counter argument. Your wisdom speaks volumes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 07/05/21 7:57:21 PM #18:	KeeperOfShadows posted... Flawless counter argument. Your wisdom speaks volumes. Correct. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:955779478] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>KeeperOfShadows posted... </cite> <quote>Flawless counter argument. Your wisdom speaks volumes.</quote>Correct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 07/05/21 8:00:47 PM #19:	ooger posted... Correct. Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral? --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:955779579] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite> <quote>Correct.</quote>Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 07/05/21 8:01:20 PM #20:	A mature D and a tight P. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:955779596] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>A mature D and a tight P. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 8:03:00 PM #22:	MorbidFaithless posted... Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral? 1 years gap below 18 2 years gap between 18 and 20(older) 4 years gap between 21 and 25 Morality 5 years gap between 26 and 30 Age of consent : 25 --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955779640] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>MorbidFaithless posted... </cite> <quote>Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral?</quote> 1 years gap below 18 2 years gap between 18 and 20(older) 4 years gap between 21 and 25 Morality 5 years gap between 26 and 30 Age of consent : 25 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 07/05/21 8:03:31 PM #23:	MorbidFaithless posted... Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral? Calm down Matt Gaetz. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:955779657] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>MorbidFaithless posted... </cite> <quote>Then what is acceptable? What is the number that you decide is right and correct and moral?</quote>Calm down Matt Gaetz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 07/05/21 8:03:45 PM #24:	PrideOfLion posted... Because most of them would prefer to have more power in the relationship and believe the age gap will give that to them Or maybe just maybe. Two people met and happened to have an age gap. Shocking I know --- Dragaux for smash! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:955779665] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>PrideOfLion posted...</cite> <quote>Because most of them would prefer to have more power in the relationship and believe the age gap will give that to them </quote> Or maybe just maybe. Two people met and happened to have an age gap. Shocking I know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VirtuousWrath 07/05/21 8:04:33 PM #25:	CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... <cite>VirtuousWrath posted [p:955779686] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 07/05/21 8:06:33 PM #26:	VirtuousWrath posted... CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old if the 18 is okay with it, why not? is it rape just because of the age difference, what's going on? --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:955779740] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>VirtuousWrath posted... </cite> <quote>CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old</quote>if the 18 is okay with it, why not? is it rape just because of the age difference, what's going on? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 07/05/21 8:07:55 PM #27:	People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:955779776] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 07/05/21 8:10:45 PM #28:	DoctorPiranha3 posted... People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people. What was once the party of the "moral majority" now literally look up to Matt Gaetz as a roll model, lol. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:955779856] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>DoctorPiranha3 posted... </cite> <quote>People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people.</quote> What was once the party of the "moral majority" now literally look up to Matt Gaetz as a roll model, lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 07/05/21 8:11:37 PM #29:	VirtuousWrath posted... CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old I personally would not date a 18 years old person, but it's none of my business what they do with their bodies --- Dragaux for smash! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:955779887] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>VirtuousWrath posted...</cite> <quote>CE is oddly into 40 year olds dating an 18 year old </quote> I personally would not date a 18 years old person, but it's none of my business what they do with their bodies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 8:48:56 PM #30:	DoctorPiranha3 posted... People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people. Wdym? --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955781041] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>DoctorPiranha3 posted... </cite> <quote>People like TC remind me of the GOP. It's all projection with you people.</quote> Wdym? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/05/21 8:51:25 PM #31:	Better question, why do some insist on attacking them? If they're consenting adults, the fuck does it matter? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:955781129] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Better question, why do some insist on attacking them? If they're consenting adults, the fuck does it matter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 9:40:06 PM #33:	McgeesAlice808 posted... Dude's gimmick was literally being a homophobic bible-thumper who preached that sex before marriage was a sin before changing to this more subtle luke-warm gimmick after getting consecutive month long purgatories. I never did that ^_^ --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955782570] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>McgeesAlice808 posted... </cite> <quote>Dude's gimmick was literally being a homophobic bible-thumper who preached that sex before marriage was a sin before changing to this more subtle luke-warm gimmick after getting consecutive month long purgatories.</quote> I never did that ^_^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/05/21 9:42:17 PM #34:	Who cares --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:955782643] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Who cares </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rhylos 07/05/21 9:43:56 PM #35:	If it's 2 consenting adults who fucking cares. Stop caring so much about the intimate lives of others. <cite>Rhylos posted [p:955782682] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>If it's 2 consenting adults who fucking cares. Stop caring so much about the intimate lives of others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toadfan64 07/05/21 9:47:39 PM #36:	These bait topics get people every time, lol --- Brawl FC - 5412-9555-6314 Also known as Toadfan64 <cite>toadfan64 posted [p:955782798] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>These bait topics get people every time, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Big_Nabendu 07/05/21 9:53:09 PM #38:	I don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do behind their close doors Why do u tc? --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:955782955] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>I don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do behind their close doors Why do u tc? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tri sapphire 07/05/21 9:57:01 PM #39:	Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... 1 years gap below 18 2 years gap between 18 and 20(older) 4 years gap between 21 and 25 Morality 5 years gap between 26 and 30 Age of consent : 25 Anyone else getting some dystopia flags from this? --- "If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed...I must simply laugh!!."- Magus <cite>tri sapphire posted [p:955783064] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... </cite> <quote>1 years gap below 18 2 years gap between 18 and 20(older) 4 years gap between 21 and 25 Morality 5 years gap between 26 and 30 Age of consent : 25</quote> Anyone else getting some dystopia flags from this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/05/21 9:57:39 PM #40:	Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? This comment just shows how anti-social you are. You never been to a nightclub or a concert? --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:955783081] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted... </cite> <quote>What does a 20 years old have in common with a 30 years old? </quote> This comment just shows how anti-social you are. You never been to a nightclub or a concert? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 07/05/21 10:34:16 PM #41:	I have had young twinks hit me up on Grindr, and they get mad when I tell them I am too old for them. <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:955784072] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>I have had young twinks hit me up on Grindr, and they get mad when I tell them I am too old for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/05/21 10:40:15 PM #42:	OMG. This fucking topic again. I am 44 and my gf is 28. Best relationship I have ever had. --- Currently playing: Mario Golf: Super Rush, Super Mario Sunshine <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955784256] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>OMG. This fucking topic again. I am 44 and my gf is 28. Best relationship I have ever had. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CosmicShadows 07/05/21 10:44:46 PM #43:	TC has a gimmick? What a surprise! <__< Lol not really. --- Your human level has changed to GOD. <cite>CosmicShadows posted [p:955784393] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>TC has a gimmick? What a surprise! <__< Lol not really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadlyNinjaBees 07/05/21 11:32:19 PM #46:	I dated a 20 year old when I was 30 for about two months. We had nothing in common. I will now admit I just wanted to date a hot 20 year old. She generally bored the shit outta me. --- Soi Disantra. <cite>DeadlyNinjaBees posted [p:955785594] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>I dated a 20 year old when I was 30 for about two months. We had nothing in common. I will now admit I just wanted to date a hot 20 year old. She generally bored the shit outta me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Geno4LoveGeno4L 07/05/21 11:34:28 PM #47:	McgeesAlice808 posted... I was going to take screenshots but I don't even know where to begin. Go to the logging site and look up TC's posts in the old databases. The entirety of it is about how everything is SJW indoctrination, how vaccine, climate change, and Darwinism is a hoax, how Life is Strange is an SJW game purely because it has gay characters, and how he worships Trump. I changed my mind about Trump and Life is Strange but I won't change my mind about the Darwin hoax ^_^ But stop derailing my topic ;) --- Sakurai atoned for his sins with, mature deserving and iconic characters like Sephiroth, Hero, Terry and Banjo ^_^ <cite>Geno4LoveGeno4L posted [p:955785647] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>McgeesAlice808 posted... </cite> <quote>I was going to take screenshots but I don't even know where to begin. Go to the logging site and look up TC's posts in the old databases. The entirety of it is about how everything is SJW indoctrination, how vaccine, climate change, and Darwinism is a hoax, how Life is Strange is an SJW game purely because it has gay characters, and how he worships Trump.</quote> I changed my mind about Trump and Life is Strange but I won't change my mind about the Darwin hoax ^_^ But stop derailing my topic ;) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/05/21 11:36:30 PM #48:	DeadlyNinjaBees posted... I dated a 20 year old when I was 30 for about two months. We had nothing in common. I will now admit I just wanted to date a hot 20 year old. She generally bored the shit outta me. But that doesn't have to be universal. I am sure that large age gaps fail more often than small age gaps or same age couples, but that doesn't mean we need to get up in arms about every large gap couple that exists. That is fucking immature. --- Currently playing: Mario Golf: Super Rush, Super Mario Sunshine <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955785697] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>DeadlyNinjaBees posted... </cite> <quote>I dated a 20 year old when I was 30 for about two months. We had nothing in common. I will now admit I just wanted to date a hot 20 year old. She generally bored the shit outta me.</quote>But that doesn't have to be universal. I am sure that large age gaps fail more often than small age gaps or same age couples, but that doesn't mean we need to get up in arms about every large gap couple that exists. That is fucking immature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadlyNinjaBees 07/05/21 11:45:58 PM #49:	bsp77 posted... But that doesn't have to be universal. I am sure that large age gaps fail more often than small age gaps or same age couples, but that doesn't mean we need to get up in arms about every large gap couple that exists. That is fucking immature. Well, I married someone seven years younger than me soon after that, so it's not like 10 years is much of a difference. And honestly, I'd be doing her a massiver disservice if I rated my respect for her and measured her capabilites via age. She has far surpassed me at this point. --- Soi Disantra. <cite>DeadlyNinjaBees posted [p:955785904] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>But that doesn't have to be universal. I am sure that large age gaps fail more often than small age gaps or same age couples, but that doesn't mean we need to get up in arms about every large gap couple that exists. That is fucking immature.</quote>Well, I married someone seven years younger than me soon after that, so it's not like 10 years is much of a difference. And honestly, I'd be doing her a massiver disservice if I rated my respect for her and measured her capabilites via age. She has far surpassed me at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/05/21 11:50:37 PM #50:	DeadlyNinjaBees posted... Well, I married someone seven years younger than me soon after that, so it's not like 10 years is much of a difference. And honestly, I'd be doing her a massiver disservice if I rated my respect for her and measured her capabilites via age. She has far surpassed me at this point. First, congrats! (But I know you guys have been struggling health wise and I'm sorry). And second, so you do agree that judging solely based on age is ridiculous? I always state that those who purposefully go after those much younger suck, but if it just happens then it is fine. --- Currently playing: Mario Golf: Super Rush, Super Mario Sunshine <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955786017] in Why does t... [t:79549985]...</cite> <quote>DeadlyNinjaBees posted... </cite> <quote>Well, I married someone seven years younger than me soon after that, so it's not like 10 years is much of a difference. And honestly, I'd be doing her a massiver disservice if I rated my respect for her and measured her capabilites via age. She has far surpassed me at this point.</quote>First, congrats! (But I know you guys have been struggling health wise and I'm sorry). And second, so you do agree that judging solely based on age is ridiculous? I always state that those who purposefully go after those much younger suck, but if it just happens then it is fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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