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SaccharineSmile
06/26/21 7:55:28 PM
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If I was from the UK I wouldve voted leave

why is being proud of your own country and wanting it to stand of its own considered racist?

80% of the world are independent why cant UK be one of them again?

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spikethedevil
06/26/21 7:56:43 PM
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Guys what's your favorite pizza topping

Meat feast >>>> all imo.

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kage_53
06/26/21 7:58:54 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Wasnt immigration a huge part of the anger?

I think most of Europe is anti immigration now though.
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Trumble
06/26/21 8:10:35 PM
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People who had been convinced one side was good and one side was bad, and didn't have the faintest understanding of why (and often, lacked the mental maturity to even give proper consideration to a subject that complex), were told that the people who support it secretly do so because they're racist. Chances are they didn't ask any further questions.

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JoelMiller95
06/26/21 8:11:24 PM
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How can Trump be a fascist when he hasn't committed a holocaust like Hitler?
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/26/21 8:12:14 PM
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It's all built-in

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Delirious_Beard
06/26/21 8:12:40 PM
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i'll say it again but the crypto-fash angle to your already stale gimmick ain't it

try again

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Cobra1010
06/26/21 8:18:11 PM
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201516 New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

Over 1,200 women were reportedly sexually assaulted during the 201516 public New Year's Eve's celebrations in Germany, in most cases by men of non-European origin. 24 women reported being raped. In many of the incidents, women in public places had been surrounded and assaulted by groups of men.[11][12][13][14] The Bundeskriminalamt (German Federal Criminal Police) confirmed in July 2016 that 1,200 women had been sexually assaulted on that New Year's night.[1]

By April 2016, statistics recorded by authorities indicated that out of the identified 153 suspects in Cologne who were convicted of sexual offenses and other crimes during New Year's Eve 201516, two-thirds were originally from Morocco or Algeria, 44% were asylum seekers, another 12% were likely to have been in Germany illegally, and 3% were underaged unaccompanied refugees.


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UnfairRepresent
06/26/21 8:20:15 PM
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Trumble posted...
People who had been convinced one side was good and one side was bad, and didn't have the faintest understanding of why (and often, lacked the mental maturity to even give proper consideration to a subject that complex), were told that the people who support it secretly do so because they're racist. Chances are they didn't ask any further questions.
I openly listened to every leaver who was willing to talk

Usually their reasoning made no sense and many were outright racist. It's not a secret. "Take back our boarders and keep the brown people out" was part of the rallying cry, even though that's not what Brexit was actually about it.

UKIP the party that pushed for it and got about 10% of the population supporting them are a far-right party.

SaccharineSmile posted...
If I was from the UK I wouldve voted leave

why is being proud of your own country and wanting it to stand of its own considered racist?

80% of the world are independent why cant UK be one of them again?

Because there's no pragmatic benefit to that "pride"

You still have to deal with all the other countries, globalization is still a thing. The UK has to do businsess with the EU. Only now it works for a position of weakness instead of one of strength.

Now instead of free travel for citizens, it's a clusterfuck, instead of smooth busisnesses building an economy, it's a weakeed clusterfuck.

And this is without bringing up Ireland.

"I want to be proud of my nation BLURGH GAR!" chesthumping might emotioally feel good but it's not actually saying anything. It's not a practical stance of anykind. It's pure rhetoric and stupid rhetoric at that.

Meanwhile it's considered racist because many people who loudly openly support it are racist and the party that called for it was a far right racist homophobic party.

You see the same thing from the Scottish independance movement. Lots of shouting and "pride" but no correhant thoughts or policies or ideals. They don't even know what the EU is

There was a great interview with a guy who was pro-no deal Brexit and he was asked "Well how will the UK get vital medicenes into the country with a no deal Brexit" and he without hesitation said "Well obviously Iwant a no deal with side deals."

You can't make this stuff up.

Brexit is on par with Trump supporters.
You're not a racist by default but you can't deny the racism that exists among the supporters nor the fact most of them don't actually understand/care about politics and are going off emotion and feeling.

What's extremely telling to me is one of the rallying cries was "WE have to abide by the EU's bill of rights (that the UK helped create) not our own bill of rights!".... Then the second Brexit occured the UK's bill of rights was identical except they took out all the privacy protections so the conservative government can legally spy on the population.

That's a really really really really really really really bad thing that no leaver talks about. That's what the "UK Pride!" people brought to the table. Basically a British Patriot Act.

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JoelMiller95
06/26/21 8:20:49 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
201516 New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
If that happened in America by white men, conservatives in America would be saying that the women deserved it for dressing provocatively or that they're lying.
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Grischnak
06/26/21 8:25:59 PM
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Brexit was considered racist because everyone that doesn't slavishly follow progressive talking points is considered racist or some sort of other -ist or phobia by the far left. Obey or they'll paint you to be the devil regardless of the truth.
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UnfairRepresent
06/26/21 8:28:34 PM
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Grischnak posted...
Brexit was considered racist because everyone that doesn't slavishly follow progressive talking points is considered racist or some sort of other -ist or phobia by the far left. Obey or they'll paint you to be the devil regardless of the truth.
Or because it was backed by a far right party largely consisting of racists and supporters of it were openly racists and bringing up racist talking points that weren't even to do with Brexit.

I mean you're kinda proving my point. Leavers in general never actually talked about or knew about politics. It was always rhetoric like this. "I want my pride, the left is just calling me racist and making you obey them!" no actual substance. Just Fox News style ranting

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ColdOne666
06/26/21 8:36:01 PM
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Trumble posted...
People who had been convinced one side was good and one side was bad, and didn't have the faintest understanding of why (and often, lacked the mental maturity to even give proper consideration to a subject that complex), were told that the people who support it secretly do so because they're racist. Chances are they didn't ask any further questions.


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UnfairRepresent
06/26/21 8:40:57 PM
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I mean another key pro leaver point was the color of your passport.

That's right literally millions of people who voted leave did so because they wanted a different color passport.... Even though they were allowed to get a different color passport and Brexit had no effect on that.

It's one of those things were you honestly can't just handwave and go "Both sides" or "Well obviously they're just questioning the left so the left is freaking out!"

If you do then you're lying. The entire movement was largely madness.

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iPhone_7
06/26/21 8:43:10 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Wasnt immigration a huge part of the anger?
Yeah the mass migration of refugees.

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TerraSeeker
06/26/21 9:10:52 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Wasnt immigration a huge part of the anger?
They have the right to determine who comes in their country not the European Union.

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ColdOne666
06/26/21 9:17:36 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
201516 New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

Wow that's crazy

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JoelMiller95
06/26/21 9:23:34 PM
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TerraSeeker posted...
They have the right to determine who comes in their country not the European Union.
What about the Native Americans and what the Europeans did to them?
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ssjevot
06/26/21 9:42:02 PM
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JoelMiller95 posted...
What about the Native Americans and what the Europeans did to them?

I think Natives should have more ability to self-determination. Also a lot of tribes are still unrecognized and treaties are in violation by the federal or state governments without any major push to rectify that.

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spikethedevil
06/27/21 5:17:03 AM
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TerraSeeker posted...
They have the right to determine who comes in their country not the European Union.

We always did.

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Esrac
06/27/21 6:44:13 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
201516 New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

I remember when that came out. There was a lot of denialism and whataboutism about it on this board.
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DeadBankerDream
06/27/21 6:47:02 AM
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Guys why aren't you talking about your favourite pizza toppings?

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zombiexdeathx
06/27/21 7:00:19 AM
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people who voted in favor of brexit most are racist old people

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Xavier_On_High
06/27/21 7:06:04 AM
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It's not that being pro-Brexit is necessarily racist, it's just that many of the people who voted to leave did it for racist reasons and there was an undercurrent of racism to the entire Vote Leave campaign and it was run by racists and the whole thing was triggered by a party that was populated by former members of the defunct, explicitly white nationalist BNP.

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LanaDurant
06/27/21 7:26:33 AM
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Grischnak posted...
Brexit was considered racist because everyone that doesn't slavishly follow progressive talking points is considered racist or some sort of other -ist or phobia by the far left. Obey or they'll paint you to be the devil regardless of the truth.


pop quiz: do you know what the far left is?
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SaccharineSmile
06/27/21 8:19:57 AM
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I mean just because the other people in the euro/world now have it harder to get into the UK to live or work doesnt mean it was racist move to leave the EU

every country has strict rules on immigration/residence


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KiwiTerraRizing
06/27/21 8:23:15 AM
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Brexit was an anti immigrant campaign from the very start

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brestugo
06/27/21 8:27:55 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
It's all built-in


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SaccharineSmile
06/27/21 8:28:29 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Brexit was an anti immigrant campaign from the very start

or brexit was a reform of immigration policy to align better with other first world countries around the world?

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KiwiTerraRizing
06/27/21 8:43:10 AM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
or brexit was a reform of immigration policy to align better with other first world countries around the world?

No, what I wrote was correct

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