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Pepys Monster
06/25/21 1:47:35 PM
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Frats make people drink, memorize rules, and do embarrassing things to prove they're worthy. The military makes people wake up super early and exercise, memorize cadences, and complete challenges like rappelling, obstacle courses, the gas chamber, marksmanship, etc to prove they're worthy. What do you think?

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MedeaLysistrata
06/25/21 1:48:35 PM
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Usually they're called rites, but you know.... tradition

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Bananana
06/25/21 1:48:40 PM
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you listed two things that produce some of the most insufferable people on the planet

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Pepys Monster
06/25/21 1:51:05 PM
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Bananana posted...
you listed two things that produce some of the most insufferable people on the planet
There are much more insufferable people.

https://i.imgur.com/voAuvzb.jpg

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Xavier_On_High
06/25/21 1:52:39 PM
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The military does that so that soldiers stop functioning like normal humans. That's explicitly what it's for.

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skermac
06/25/21 1:53:25 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Frats make people drink, memorize rules, and do embarrassing things to prove they're worthy. The military makes people wake up super early and exercise, memorize cadences, and complete challenges like rappelling, obstacle courses, the gas chamber, marksmanship, etc to prove they're worthy. What do you think?


in the military thats training not hazing, the frat stuff is hazing and needs to be stopped

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Pepys Monster
06/25/21 2:14:27 PM
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skermac posted...
in the military thats training not hazing, the frat stuff is hazing and needs to be stopped
How is the gas chamber not hazing? They say some BS like "it teaches you to be confident in your equipment." Really, the drill sergeants get a kick out of seeing recruits pour out of the chamber coughing.

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SSJPurple
06/25/21 2:21:42 PM
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Yeah the military does those things to make soldiers. Even if the methods are questionable at least there is some kind of logic behind it.

College kids do it because theyre douch bags.


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philsov
06/25/21 2:29:19 PM
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Is it possible to become a man, without hazing?

Gee, peppy, I don't know!
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dameon_reaper
06/25/21 2:32:23 PM
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I hate 'tradition' because all it does is make people think "Well if you've never done that, you're not a real man" which is the whole toxic masculinity bs that have come to...be known...
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Paragon21XX
06/25/21 2:34:40 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Frats make people drink, memorize rules, and do embarrassing things to prove they're worthy. The military makes people wake up super early and exercise, memorize cadences, and complete challenges like rappelling, obstacle courses, the gas chamber, marksmanship, etc to prove they're worthy. What do you think?


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Lost_All_Senses
06/25/21 2:36:45 PM
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God damn it, I knew my dad failed me by not making me butt chug a 6 pack.

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Pepys Monster
06/25/21 2:38:17 PM
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philsov posted...
Is it possible to become a man, without hazing?

Gee, peppy, I don't know!
Is this guy a man?
https://i.imgur.com/T4YWMNj.jpg


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philsov
06/25/21 2:39:41 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Is this manchild a man?


He was some hazed lockerroom bitch who did Atomic Situps, so, yes.
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dameon_reaper
06/25/21 3:09:29 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Is this guy a man?
https://i.imgur.com/T4YWMNj.jpg

Because he's making a silly face and holding Switch stuff, he's not a man?
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Umbreon
06/25/21 3:11:22 PM
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They're called "Frat boys" instead of "Frat men" you tell me.

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skermac
06/26/21 12:46:19 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
How is the gas chamber not hazing? They say some BS like "it teaches you to be confident in your equipment." Really, the drill sergeants get a kick out of seeing recruits pour out of the chamber coughing.

its still training it teaches you how to deal with that situation so you can save life, you guys that never served just dont understand

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/26/21 12:48:12 PM
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From a survival point of view, it makes you do more dangerous stuff with less hesitation, more comradeship

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trappedunderice
06/26/21 12:54:07 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Is this guy a man?
https://i.imgur.com/T4YWMNj.jpg
Hey look it's 90% of ce.
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Pepys Monster
06/26/21 1:15:49 PM
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skermac posted...
its still training it teaches you how to deal with that situation so you can save life, you guys that never served just dont understand
I served for 7 years.

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Esrac
06/26/21 1:27:09 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Frats make people drink, memorize rules, and do embarrassing things to prove they're worthy. The military makes people wake up super early and exercise, memorize cadences, and complete challenges like rappelling, obstacle courses, the gas chamber, marksmanship, etc to prove they're worthy. What do you think?

None of that military training counts as hazing.
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Pepys Monster
06/26/21 1:30:04 PM
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Esrac posted...
None of that military training counts as hazing.
What about the "shark attack" when you arrive at basic training? Drill sergeants make you run and overhead press your duffle bag, etc.

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Slayer_22
06/26/21 1:31:26 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
the gas chamber

Uhhh
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Esrac
06/26/21 1:35:40 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
What about the "shark attack" when you arrive at basic training? Drill sergeants make you run and overhead press your duffle bag, etc.

Like most of that kind of thing at RTC, it was to get you accustomed to a certain level of stress and getting things done in a hurry.

Though I've heard its been replaced.
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Pepys Monster
06/26/21 1:39:19 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Uhhh
They use something called CS gas. It's not lethal, but it will make your eyes water, your nose run like crazy, and make you cough.

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Esrac
06/26/21 1:41:09 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Uhhh

The gas chamber is where you go into a room with your division in formation, wearing gas masks as they fill the chamber with tear gas.

Then, line by line, you take off the masks. You stand there for a few seconds before they rush you out to rinse your eyes and face. Its to demonstrate the gas mask and then to introduce you to tear gas.
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