Current Events > CO Baker refuses to make trans birthday cake, fined $500

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https://www.wfaa.com/amp/article/news/local/masterpiece-cakeshop-baker-discrimination-gender-transition-cake-transgender-colroado/ 73-a75c4069-ae18-489b-bfa2-6b7a148c085a

A Denver judge says a baker who won a partial victory at the U.S. Supreme Court in 2018 for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple violated Colorado's anti-discrimination law by refusing to make a birthday cake for a transgender woman.

In a ruling Tuesday, Judge A. Bruce Jones ruled that Autumn Scardina was denied a cake that was blue on the outside and pink on the inside to celebrate her gender transition on her birthday because of her transgender status.

While the Masterpiece Cakeshop, in Lakewood, said they could make a birthday cake for the desired number of people, baker Jack Phillips said he could not make this particular cake because of its message.

The judge, who said this is about refusing to sell a product and not about compelled speech, also ordered Phillips to pay Scardina $500. Phillips plans to appeal.

Citing religious beliefs, Phillips made a similar argument in 2012 when he refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. The couple filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

The case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court, which partially sided with Phillip saying the Civil Rights Commission showed hostility toward religion.

This dude in the news again lol

Just attention, take this from someone who is in part religious


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why doesnt he just make it and just do a really shit job?

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I didn't know birthday cakes had genders

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Bigots being bigots to the very end. I'm not surprised and this won't be the last we hear of this guy.

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I bet he is really pissed at anti-vax discrimination though

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If more people stuck to their religious beliefs, and retained their long lost integrity the world would be a much better place.

There are other bakeries to choose from in Colorado, people. Goddamn.

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Only $500?

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Eviora posted...

Only $500?

A lot more than he would've gotten for just making the god damned cake.

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Keep religion in the privacy of your own home and church. Dont be a dick to others and dont discriminate.

also, there was no thou shalt not be born transgender line in the bible

yet a post like this is called edgy on gamefaqs

hockeybub89 posted...

I didn't know birthday cakes had genders

It was originally a pie.

In all serousness though, dont be that guy.

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Should have been fined 500k
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The moment some baker somewhere refuses to serve a straight or christian couple you know this issue is going to suddenly turn into "cAnCeL CuLtUrE"

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Vicious_Dios posted...

If more people stuck to their religious beliefs, and retained their long lost integrity the world would be a much better place.

There are other bakeries to choose from in Colorado, people. Goddamn.

Because the Catholic Church has a rich history of doing the morally correct thing.
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Vicious_Dios posted...

If more people stuck to their religious beliefs, and retained their long lost integrity the world would be a much better place.

There are other bakeries to choose from in Colorado, people. Goddamn.

These businesses thrive due to the infrastructure provided by all taxpayers in the area. such as roads, the police, fire departments etc.

Businesses shouldn't be able to discriminate simply because they are supported by the community, directly by business or indirectly via the reasons I outlined.

But you're a MAGA so this post is for the benefit of everyone else.

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Why would a LGBT+ person even go to that bakery in the first place? Did they not google it first?

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Vicious_Dios posted...

If more people stuck to their religious beliefs, and retained their long lost integrity the world would be a much better place.

There are other bakeries to choose from in Colorado, people. Goddamn.

Which religious beliefs, though?

The major religions cant even agree on which god is the right one.

Hell, some protestants think Catholics are idolators if were talking about Christian sects. (Nobody ever talks about Christian sects).


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I have nothing against religion but where in the bible does it say you cant make a cake for gays?

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DravenRainrix posted...

Why would a LGBT+ person even go to that bakery in the first place? Did they not google it first?

Because it's a bakery, and they need a cake. What kind of question is this?

Vicious_Dios posted...

If more people stuck to their religious beliefs, and retained their long lost integrity the world would be a much better place.

There are other bakeries to choose from in Colorado, people. Goddamn.

nice job ending the post with a blaspheme you fuckin hypocrite

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TheOtherMike posted...

Because it's a bakery, and they need a cake. What kind of question is this?

A fairly simple one.

Google:
"Bakery near me"
Pick a company, copy, paste into Google.
Look through reviews.
Pick one with good reviews.

Isn't that what everyone does?


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DravenRainrix posted...

A fairly simple one.

Google:
"Bakery near me"
Pick a company, copy, paste into Google.
Look through reviews.
Pick one with good reviews.

Isn't that what everyone does?

Everyone needs to worry about being discriminated against for their sexuality so much so that they literally need to pre-check every single business they walk into?

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DravenRainrix posted...

A fairly simple one.

Google:
"Bakery near me"
Pick a company, copy, paste into Google.
Look through reviews.
Pick one with good reviews.

Isn't that what everyone does?

I've literally never googled reviews for a business.

TheOtherMike posted...

I've literally never googled reviews for a business.

Well seeing as you never have, I will assume no one ever does and I'm the odd one out that does.

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I think its a tiny bit suspicious that the trans woman in question chose this particular bakery for her cake (only because I cant imagine being part of the LGBT community and not knowing the name of the bakery that went to the Supreme Court because they refused service to my community) but frankly, I dont care if she was intentionally trolling them or not. Make her the goddamn cake. Her money is as good as anyone elses, and while you might be able to make the argument that your religion doesnt recognize gay marriages as valid, certainly theres nothing in the Bible that says trans people cant have birthdays.

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DravenRainrix posted...

Well seeing as you never have, I will assume no one ever does and I'm the odd one out that does.

You know there's a middle ground between "everyone" and "no one," right?

DravenRainrix posted...

Well seeing as you never have, I will assume no one ever does and I'm the odd one out that does.

If Im checking out a place for the first time, especially for something like getting a cake made, Im definitely checking out reviews.

And seems like this place had the same issue back in 2012 so that probably would have popped up and Id move on to the next place

TheOtherMike posted...

You know there's a middle ground between "everyone" and "no one," right?

You missed the joke

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I don't understand this ruling, I mean the judge has to know it will be overturned on appeals when it goes to a judge above him. The Supreme Court already decided on this issue, so it is essentially settled law and this judge is violating a Supreme Court decision. Regardless of how anyone feels about this baker or the court case, he has every right to refuse to make a custom cake as long as he doesn't refuse to make a generic birthday cake according to the SC. Though I'm going to guess that at this point everyone in that area knows who the baker is and that's why this individual went there to try and bring the case back to court in the hopes of having it go to the SC again and be overturned.

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DravenRainrix posted...

Well seeing as you never have, I will assume no one ever does and I'm the odd one out that does.

Do you ever review a business simply based on the fact that you have to pre-check that business to make sure you won't be discriminated against? No? Then stfu.

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If i was a business owner I wouldnt turn away anyone, why lose a sale?

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Gamerguymass posted...

The Supreme Court already decided on this issue

No they didn't.

People really emotionally invest in cakes?

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skermac posted...

If i was a business owner I wouldnt turn away anyone, why lose a sale?

two reasons

1) These people hate LGBT+ people so passionately that business comes second. Lots of them would straight up burn the country to the fucking ground before we have a gay president

2) Unfortunately this type of behavior can be profitable these days. If this thing becomes another major scandal all this baker has to do is open a gofundme and he gets six figures easily.

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Shadow Don posted...

Do you ever review a business simply based on the fact that you have to pre-check that business to make sure you won't be discriminated against? No? Then stfu.

LOL.
You have no idea who i am or the issues I've faced in life.
but i will take your advice and stfu.

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The SCOTUS very purposefully punted on actually deciding anything the last time this guy took a case there. Their decision was purely procedural rather than on any merits.

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Shadow Don posted...

Do you ever review a business simply based on the fact that you have to pre-check that business to make sure you won't be discriminated against? No? Then stfu.

It has nothing to do with that and everything to do with checking to see if the place is good.

If Im trying out a new place I want to see pictures of their stuff, menus or whatever, reviews, it has nothing to do with what youre saying. Now if something awful pops up when youre checking these places out, you know to move on and not give them your money or time.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

It has nothing to do with that and everything to do with checking to see if the place is good.

You are missing the point entirely or you are a conservative lunatic/troll. Of course if you are buying a tiered wedding cake you should look into the place to make sure they actually make good cakes.

The other dipshit poster wasn't suggesting that. He was saying the transgender person should have checked to see that the cake shop in question wouldn't discriminate against them.

That is not something people normally have to do everyday. You are saying that it is reasonable to check reviews of a business in regards to their product quality and then concluding that it is also totally reasonable for LGBT+ people to have to check businesses to make sure they won't be discriminated against.


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I wasnt aware there was a religion that forbids making a pink cake with blue frosting.

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I'm willing to bet money that the customer is trolling the guy. There's no way the customer didn't know the bakery's story.

skermac posted...

If i was a business owner I wouldnt turn away anyone, why lose a sale?

Because not all dollars are equal. If I were running a catering business and have been requested by one guy who is hosting an event for school administrators but I know this guy has been having fun on Epstein's island, if I had any integrity, I wouldn't take the job.

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Kakapo posted...

Which religious beliefs, though?

The major religions cant even agree on which god is the right one.

Hell, some protestants think Catholics are idolators if were talking about Christian sects. (Nobody ever talks about Christian sects).

But what about the peace that religion brought the the protestants and catholics in.... oh wait.


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Sad_Face posted...

I'm willing to bet money that the customer is trolling the guy. There's no way the customer didn't know the bakery's story.

Because not all dollars are equal. If I were running a catering business and have been requested by one guy who is hosting an event for school administrators but I know this guy has been having fun on Epstein's island, if I had any integrity, I wouldn't take the job.

Even if they are trolling the business, good. It's fucking 2021 let these places go out of business.

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DravenRainrix posted...

Why would a LGBT+ person even go to that bakery in the first place? Did they not google it first?

They're probably purposefully targeting that one for attention and money. People who make a scene like this are generally terrible people.

Not saying the bakery is in the right though so put your pitchforks down

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If you actually check the Google reviews, a large amount say that their cake tastes like bigotry. It's not really hidden. They also mention that there's a wonderful cake shop literally across the street.

Anyway, in an ideal world the free market would crush them but I see the danger of it not in this type of situation. So fine the fuck out of them imo

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

If you actually check the Google reviews, a large amount say that their cake tastes like bigotry. It's not really hidden. They also mention that there's a wonderful cake shop literally across the street.

Anyway, in an ideal world the free market would crush them but I see the danger of it not in this type of situation. So fine the fuck out of them imo

Yup. That's pretty much exactly the point. There are some problems the free market can fix but this simply is not one of them. What conservatives are really pushing for is the "freedom" to basically shun groups they don't like out of existence. Too many people responded to this situation back in 2012 like "who cares it's just a cake shop, go to another one!", but the problem is a SC decision could potentially have much farther reaching consequences. If the SC gets stacked with 9 conservative justices and another case like this makes it up there it is entirely possible we end up with it being legal to totally refuse any kind of service to LGBT+ people for "religious freedom." Basically LGBT+ would all have to go back into the closet if they want to survive. That's what conservatives want but they package it as "freedom from government regulation." It's the positive vs negative liberty dilemma.

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Fuck him

That's discrimination

Either be able to refuse anyone service without citing a reason or treat everyone equally.

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people ITT getting offended at the poor baker getting discriminated against

CanuckCowboy posted...

But what about the peace that religion brought the the protestants and catholics in.... oh wait.

Dont you dare mention Magdalene asylums/laundries!

*Religious values*

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This has nothing to do with religion. These idiots need to stop hiding behind their religion. Where in the Bible does it say to shun trans people?

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"We don't serve your kind, it's my religion."

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As a business owner you can choose whom they want to serve. The market sorts out this kind of thing.

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