Current Events > US breaks away from Trump policy. Now protecting gay people.

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ZannoL
05/10/21 10:36:27 AM
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https://6abc.com/gay-transgender-lgbtq-health-care/10607530/
The U.S. will protect gay and transgender people against sex discrimination in health care, the Biden administration announced Monday, reversing a Trump-era policy that sought to narrow the scope of legal rights in sensitive situations involving medical care.

The action by the Department of Health and Human Services affirms that federal laws forbidding sex discrimination in health care also protect gay and transgender people. The Trump administration had defined "sex" to mean gender assigned at birth, thereby excluding transgender people from the law's umbrella of protection.

"Fear of discrimination can lead individuals to forgo care, which can have serious negative health consequences," said HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra. "Everyone - including LGBTQ people - should be able to access health care, free from discrimination or interference, period."




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Bio1590
05/10/21 10:37:48 AM
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The US has way too many of these things that just consistently flip back and forth depending on who's in charge
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Awards
05/10/21 10:41:01 AM
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good
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Orchestrion
05/10/21 10:42:53 AM
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Totally normal thing to have civil rights as a partisan issue, right?

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Ruvan22
05/10/21 10:44:23 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
The US has way too many of these things that just consistently flip back and forth depending on who's in charge
Sadly true
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Pus_N_Pecans
05/10/21 10:48:21 AM
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It's really sad that basic human rights do not have bipartisan support.

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butthole666
05/10/21 10:48:23 AM
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This should not be celebrated or treated like a good thing because it is the absolute bare fucking minimum

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s0nicfan
05/10/21 10:51:37 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
The US has way too many of these things that just consistently flip back and forth depending on who's in charge

Because we've collectively given up on Congress to actually draft laws and amendments codifying these things in the constitution, instead relying entirely too much on executive order to force things through which are much more easily added/removed between administrations.

If people actually held their representatives accountable we wouldn't have this issue, because it would take much more work to change these things but when they do change they'd be much more stable.

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ZannoL
05/10/21 11:02:00 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Because we've collectively given up on Congress to actually draft laws and amendments codifying these things in the constitution, instead relying entirely too much on executive order to force things through which are much more easily added/removed between administrations.

If people actually held their representatives accountable we wouldn't have this issue, because it would take much more work to change these things but when they do change they'd be much more stable.

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Samurontai
05/10/21 11:05:18 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Because we've collectively given up on Congress to actually draft laws and amendments codifying these things in the constitution, instead relying entirely too much on executive order to force things through which are much more easily added/removed between administrations.

If people actually held their representatives accountable we wouldn't have this issue, because it would take much more work to change these things but when they do change they'd be much more stable.

True

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DeadlyNinjaBees
05/10/21 11:06:04 AM
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God...
If only the last four years could be retconned so these repeals weren't needed.
What a fucking needless amount of damage.

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Robot2600
05/10/21 11:07:20 AM
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butthole666 posted...
This should not be celebrated or treated like a good thing because it is the absolute bare fucking minimum


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Bio1590
05/10/21 11:34:53 AM
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s0nicfan posted...


Because we've collectively given up on Congress to actually draft laws and amendments codifying these things in the constitution, instead relying entirely too much on executive order to force things through which are much more easily added/removed between administrations.

If people actually held their representatives accountable we wouldn't have this issue, because it would take much more work to change these things but when they do change they'd be much more stable.

Do you honestly think something like this has any hope of passing through as a constitutional amendment at this time? A significant portion of the country still thinks trans people don't even have a right to exist. It's no different than abortion.
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Doom_Art
05/10/21 11:36:27 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Because we've collectively given up on Congress to actually draft laws and amendments codifying these things in the constitution, instead relying entirely too much on executive order to force things through which are much more easily added/removed between administrations.
Overall I agree

But in this particular instance a far easier solution would be for the right to just... not be homophobic

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s0nicfan
05/10/21 11:51:23 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Do you honestly think something like this has any hope of passing through as a constitutional amendment at this time? A significant portion of the country still thinks trans people don't even have a right to exist. It's no different than abortion.

Maybe, maybe not, but either way congress moves slower than executive order. If you don't want thrashing, you need to either limit the scope executive orders or legislate such that an EO for a particular issue couldn't be applied, and the only means of doing either is through congress. So either you accept that change is going to come slower but actually hold representatives accountable to it, or you try to rush change through the executive branch and accept that every 4 years those things might be blown away. You can't have both.

Half the reason we're in this situation is because people aren't happy with the rate of change and see EO as a means of forcing change that the rest of the country isn't ready for. You can do that, but when the rest of the country votes in someone who agrees with them they're going to use EO to reverse it. We've seen it running like this for like a decade plus now, and the only solution is to make representatives commit to something and then vote them out when they don't follow through. That may mean more active participation in primaries and it may mean sometimes voting for the other party, but until people actually put congressional feet to the fire nothing is going to change.

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ZannoL
05/10/21 10:36:19 PM
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Bump
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Mezcla
05/10/21 10:37:06 PM
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people besides me having rights?!?!?!

BUT WHY????

-Conservatives.

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The Popo
05/10/21 10:39:00 PM
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Mezcla posted...
people besides me having rights?!?!?!

BUT WHY????

-Conservatives.



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Antifar
05/10/21 10:39:33 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If people actually held their representatives accountable we wouldn't have this issue
To what extent could Republican representatives be held accountable by people on this issue? Or for that matter, any senator with a six-year term?

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What_
05/10/21 10:39:39 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
It's really sad that basic human rights do not have bipartisan support.
Thats modern republicanism
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Tyranthraxus
05/10/21 10:41:53 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Do you honestly think something like this has any hope of passing through as a constitutional amendment at this time? A significant portion of the country still thinks trans people don't even have a right to exist. It's no different than abortion.

The majority of Americans actually support legal abortion. If that went to a popular vote for a constitutional amendment it might actually pass. Remember that the political views of people in Congress don't actually reflect the people in a 1-1 ratio and plenty of people have no problems with voting republican and in favor of a pro abortion amendment.

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