Current Events > Water Pokemon shouldn't be able to learn Ice attacks

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Veggeta X
03/19/21 12:39:50 PM
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It makes them too OP

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OffTempo
03/19/21 12:42:18 PM
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Fire type Pokemon shouldn't learn electric or grass or fighting or water type moves. It makes them too OP.

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LordMarshal
03/19/21 12:45:14 PM
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THIS is your worst opinion and troll topic.

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Simon_Gruber
03/19/21 12:46:32 PM
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Hell no, my Azumarill slays Dragons in the Great League. Love her.
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Squall28
03/19/21 12:47:11 PM
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It's why I always pick Squirtle. Eat my Ice Beam Venusaur.

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Jagr_68
03/19/21 12:48:38 PM
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Ice is literally solidified water, awful opinion.

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Veggeta X
03/19/21 12:49:08 PM
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OffTempo posted...
Fire type Pokemon shouldn't learn electric or grass or fighting or water type moves. It makes them too OP.
All Fire Pokemon can learn all those different type of moves?

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obsolete
03/19/21 12:53:21 PM
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It's not that it's OP it's that it gives ice type Pokemon no reason to be used. Ice type is already the worst type defensively.
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Son Of Spam
03/19/21 12:54:09 PM
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Ice type Pokemon need more resistances so there's actually a reason to use them over just giving Ice Beam to a water type Pokemon.

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V-E-G-Y-
03/19/21 12:55:44 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/19/21 12:56:45 PM
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Make ice types resist water

bam

everything solved forever

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SquirtleSkwad
03/19/21 12:57:28 PM
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Alright let's hear his reasoning.
*reads*
Hell fucking yeah they're awesome.

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Veggeta X
03/19/21 12:57:46 PM
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LivingLegend posted...
Ghost Pokmon should be invincible.
Aren't they to physical attacks?

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Duncanwii
03/19/21 12:57:50 PM
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Toxic being able to be learned by literally everything not named Ditto is worse.
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Veggeta X
03/19/21 12:59:12 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Toxic being able to be learned by literally everything not named Ditto is worse.
Toxic isn't a 1hko, though. Blizzard and Ice Beam are, and Water types already have Surf and Hydro Fuck.

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Duncanwii
03/19/21 1:01:56 PM
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Veggeta X posted...

Toxic isn't a 1hko, though. Blizzard and Ice Beam are, and Water types already have Surf and Hydro Fuck.

I mean you can heal off Ice Beam damage if your bulky enough. With Toxic if you dont have a Lum Berry or something you're screwed.
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Veggeta X
03/19/21 1:05:45 PM
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Ice Beam has a chance to freeze. Hard CC > DoT

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Duncanwii
03/19/21 1:07:17 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Ice Beam has a chance to freeze. Hard CC > DoT

Freeze has a 20% chance of going away each turn in the latest game. Toxic poison not only never goes away on its own it gets worse each turn.
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Tryin2GetDaPipe
03/19/21 1:09:41 PM
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gen 1 normals shouldn't be able to learn moves like thunder or blizzard

makes no damn sense why a tiny rodent like rattata is able to learn these moves. tell me, why does a fucking rat have the power to summon blizzards or lightning on command

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Veggeta X
03/19/21 1:10:17 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Freeze has a 20% chance of going away each turn in the latest game. Toxic poison not only never goes away on its own it gets worse each turn.
You got me there, Duncan

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El Mexicano Texano
03/19/21 1:13:49 PM
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You're going at it wrong they can learn them but have the attack loose a 15 base power when the attack isn't in the Pokemon's type so Ice Beam will deal 75 instead of 90 when used by Azumarill who is Water/Fairy

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El Mexicano Texano
03/19/21 1:15:57 PM
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On a similar note water should be X2 against Flying types. Birds don't fly in the rain and when they get wet most of them can't even fly or fly drastically slower.

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SquirtleSkwad
03/19/21 1:17:27 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Toxic isn't a 1hko, though. Blizzard and Ice Beam are, and Water types already have Surf and Hydro Fuck.
Blizzard and Ice Beam are NOT 1hko's. They're very strong, but not that strong.

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---Devin---
03/19/21 1:21:37 PM
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Ice pokemon purely are generally useless unless its Glastier etc. with OP abilities and tanky stats.
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Veggeta X
03/19/21 1:33:22 PM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
Blizzard and Ice Beam are NOT 1hko's
Since when?

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Duncanwii
03/19/21 1:36:00 PM
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Veggeta X posted...

Since when?

I mean if you used it on a Lapras or something it's only doing a quarter damage to it. But Ice and Water are literally the only 2 types that resist Ice and it hits 4 types super effectively so you might have a point.
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Musourenka
03/19/21 1:39:29 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
You're going at it wrong they can learn them but have the attack loose a 15 base power when the attack isn't in the Pokemon's type so Ice Beam will deal 75 instead of 90 when used by Azumarill who is Water/Fairy

Isn't that what STAB is for?

Also, for Duncan, Steel resists Ice.

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Srk700
03/19/21 1:57:37 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Fairy type ruined da pokemon series

Fairy made it better imo. Gave another check to the OP Dragon type, turned Poison from being a bad typing into a good one, and made Steel a decent offensive type when it was previously among the worst.

Only thing I don't like is their resistance to Bug, which already had enough types that resisted it to begin with.
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