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ZannoL 03/17/21 7:25:52 PM #1:	More and more people continue to kick religion to the curb. Do you see this as a good thing? Yes, I see it as mostly a good thing No, I see it as mostly a bad thing Unsure More and more people continue to kick religion to the curb. Do you see this as a good thing? - Results (242 votes) Yes, I see it as mostly a good thing 74.79% (181 votes) 181 No, I see it as mostly a bad thing 13.22% (32 votes) 32 Unsure 11.98% (29 votes) 29 https://bit.ly/3qUJUbh Data from around the world indicate that religious belief is in decline. This trend began long before the internet and social media were invented. But it has accelerated and intensified dramatically since their arrival. According to sociologist Jean Twenge, between 2004 and 2016, religious belief among young adults fell off a cliff. Recent studies indicate not only that patterns of secularization in the United States are similar to those observed elsewhere but also that Gen Z is significantly less religious than any preceding generation. Secularization is a complex process. It includes not only declining belief but also declining participation and observance. And it has many sourceseconomic, political, social and intellectual. Nevertheless, a key factor in the decline of religious belief among millennials and Gen Z seems to be what distinguishes them, as digital natives, from all previous generations: their use of internet and social media. Few studies have examined directly the effects of internet use on religious belief, but those that have indicate a positive correlation. Viewed alongside evidence that the decline in religious belief accelerated at the same time that internet use increased, and that they did so most sharply among the generations that use it most, these data suggest strongly that the trends are related. Does the internet, then, promote incredulity? <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951820686] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote> More and more people continue to kick religion to the curb. Do you see this as a good thing? Yes, I see it as mostly a good thing No, I see it as mostly a bad thing Unsure Vote View Results More and more people continue to kick religion to the curb. Do you see this as a good thing? - Results (242 votes) Yes, I see it as mostly a good thing 74.79% (181 votes) 181 No, I see it as mostly a bad thing 13.22% (32 votes) 32 Unsure 11.98% (29 votes) 29 Show Voting Form https://bit.ly/3qUJUbh <quote>Data from around the world indicate that religious belief is in decline. This trend began long before the internet and social media were invented. But it has accelerated and intensified dramatically since their arrival. According to sociologist Jean Twenge, between 2004 and 2016, religious belief among young adults fell off a cliff. Recent studies indicate not only that patterns of secularization in the United States are similar to those observed elsewhere but also that Gen Z is significantly less religious than any preceding generation. Secularization is a complex process. It includes not only declining belief but also declining participation and observance. And it has many sourceseconomic, political, social and intellectual. Nevertheless, a key factor in the decline of religious belief among millennials and Gen Z seems to be what distinguishes them, as digital natives, from all previous generations: their use of internet and social media. Few studies have examined directly the effects of internet use on religious belief, but those that have indicate a positive correlation. Viewed alongside evidence that the decline in religious belief accelerated at the same time that internet use increased, and that they did so most sharply among the generations that use it most, these data suggest strongly that the trends are related. Does the internet, then, promote incredulity?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 03/17/21 7:27:24 PM #2:	Theyre all worshiping WAP now, its a different religion --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:951820745] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Theyre all worshiping WAP now, its a different religion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 7:27:46 PM #3:	https://www.christianpost.com/voices/americas-mayhem-and-massive-decline-in-christianity.html Only a few months before the COVID-19 pandemic, a groundbreaking poll by Pew Research was published highlighting the shocking pace of decline of Christianity in America. https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/ The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip. The data shows a wide gap between older Americans (Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation) and Millennials in their levels of religious affiliation and attendance. More than eight-in-ten members of the Silent Generation (those born between 1928 and 1945) describe themselves as Christians (84%), as do three-quarters of Baby Boomers (76%). In stark contrast, only half of Millennials (49%) describe themselves as Christians; four-in-ten are religious nones, and one-in-ten Millennials identify with non-Christian faiths. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2020/09/good-news-religion-is-fast-going-down-the-tubes-in-america/ One of the worlds leading social scientists Ronald Inglehart, above, of the University of Michigan claims in a book soon to be published that the United States is experiencing a more dramatic shift away from religion than any other nation. *Religions Sudden Decline: Whats Causing It and What Comes Next* is to be released in January by Oxford University Press. Writing in Foreign Affairs magazine in an advance summary titled Giving Up on God: The Global Decline of Religion Dr Inglehart said: Growing numbers of people no longer find religion a necessary source of support and meaning in their lives. Even the United States long cited as proof that an economically advanced society can be strongly religious has now joined other wealthy countries in moving away from religion Several forces are driving this trend, but the most powerful one is the waning hold of a set of beliefs closely linked to the imperative of maintaining high birthrates. Modern societies have become less religious in part because they no longer need to uphold the kinds of gender and sexual norms that the major world religions have instilled for centuries. Although some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesnt support this claim. As unexpected as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than more religious ones. Needless to say, religion itself doesnt encourage corruption and crime. This phenomenon reflects the fact that as societies develop, survival becomes more secure: starvation, once pervasive, becomes uncommon; life expectancy increases; murder and other forms of violence diminish. And as this level of security rises, people tend to become less religious. The most dramatic shift away from religion has taken place among the American public. From 1981 to 2007, the United States ranked as one of the worlds more religious countries, with religiosity levels changing very little. Since then, the United States has shown the largest move away from religion of any country for which we have data. Inglehart says that other factors beyond rising levels of economic and technological development help explain the waning of religion. In the United States, politics accounts for some of the decline. Since the 1990s, the Republican Party has sought to win support by adopting conservative Christian positions on same-sex marriage, abortion, and other cultural issues. But this political appeal to religious voters has had the corollary effect of pushing other voters, especially those who are young and culturally liberal, away from religion. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951820753] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>https://www.christianpost.com/voices/americas-mayhem-and-massive-decline-in-christianity.html <quote>Only a few months before the COVID-19 pandemic, a groundbreaking poll by Pew Research was published highlighting the shocking pace of decline of Christianity in America.</quote> https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/ <quote>The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip. The data shows a wide gap between older Americans (Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation) and Millennials in their levels of religious affiliation and attendance. More than eight-in-ten members of the Silent Generation (those born between 1928 and 1945) describe themselves as Christians (84%), as do three-quarters of Baby Boomers (76%). In stark contrast, only half of Millennials (49%) describe themselves as Christians; four-in-ten are religious nones, and one-in-ten Millennials identify with non-Christian faiths.</quote> https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2020/09/good-news-religion-is-fast-going-down-the-tubes-in-america/ <quote>One of the worlds leading social scientists Ronald Inglehart, above, of the University of Michigan claims in a book soon to be published that the United States is experiencing a more dramatic shift away from religion than any other nation. Religions Sudden Decline: Whats Causing It and What Comes Next is to be released in January by Oxford University Press. Writing in Foreign Affairs magazine in an advance summary titled Giving Up on God: The Global Decline of Religion Dr Inglehart said: Growing numbers of people no longer find religion a necessary source of support and meaning in their lives. Even the United States long cited as proof that an economically advanced society can be strongly religious has now joined other wealthy countries in moving away from religion Several forces are driving this trend, but the most powerful one is the waning hold of a set of beliefs closely linked to the imperative of maintaining high birthrates. Modern societies have become less religious in part because they no longer need to uphold the kinds of gender and sexual norms that the major world religions have instilled for centuries. Although some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesnt support this claim. As unexpected as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than more religious ones. Needless to say, religion itself doesnt encourage corruption and crime. This phenomenon reflects the fact that as societies develop, survival becomes more secure: starvation, once pervasive, becomes uncommon; life expectancy increases; murder and other forms of violence diminish. And as this level of security rises, people tend to become less religious. The most dramatic shift away from religion has taken place among the American public. From 1981 to 2007, the United States ranked as one of the worlds more religious countries, with religiosity levels changing very little. Since then, the United States has shown the largest move away from religion of any country for which we have data. Inglehart says that other factors beyond rising levels of economic and technological development help explain the waning of religion. In the United States, politics accounts for some of the decline. Since the 1990s, the Republican Party has sought to win support by adopting conservative Christian positions on same-sex marriage, abortion, and other cultural issues. But this political appeal to religious voters has had the corollary effect of pushing other voters, especially those who are young and culturally liberal, away from religion.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 7:30:47 PM #4:	Majority voting it's a good thing so far. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951820872] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Majority voting it's a good thing so far. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 03/17/21 7:31:58 PM #5:	god aint sending vaccines :( --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:951820920] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>god aint sending vaccines :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cavalierking 03/17/21 7:32:28 PM #6:	i guess zoomers aren't so bad after all --- live and let live <cite>cavalierking posted [p:951820943] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>i guess zoomers aren't so bad after all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 03/17/21 7:33:15 PM #7:	Good, although I already knew this. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:951820971] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Good, although I already knew this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralStiff 03/17/21 7:33:19 PM #8:	Good riddance --- You may block me, report me even but you can't unsmell my ass <cite>AdmiralStiff posted [p:951820974] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Good riddance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/17/21 7:33:58 PM #9:	--- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:951820997] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote> --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/17/21 7:34:43 PM #10:	...and nothing of value was lost --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951821022] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>...and nothing of value was lost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thunder Warrior 03/17/21 7:35:02 PM #11:	Good --- If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world-J. R. R. Tolkien <cite>Thunder Warrior posted [p:951821035] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 7:42:50 PM #12:	@UnfairRepresent was spot on. He made a really good post a while back about how the internet exposes people to different viewpoints, and therefore, prejudices are harder to hold onto. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951821323] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>@UnfairRepresent was spot on. He made a really good post a while back about how the internet exposes people to different viewpoints, and therefore, prejudices are harder to hold onto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/17/21 7:47:31 PM #13:	100% a good thing, and it will only grow. Millennials being exposed to the internet and facts with much more ease meant we could learn and see for ourselves all the issues in religion. And then such was passed onto our children. Couple this with much less enforcement of "religious values" in the school in many western countries, numerous scandals in Christianity (paedophilies being protected, continued LGBT+phobia in a society with growing acceptance) then it is the natural evolution. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:951821501] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>100% a good thing, and it will only grow. Millennials being exposed to the internet and facts with much more ease meant we could learn and see for ourselves all the issues in religion. And then such was passed onto our children. Couple this with much less enforcement of "religious values" in the school in many western countries, numerous scandals in Christianity (paedophilies being protected, continued LGBT+phobia in a society with growing acceptance) then it is the natural evolution. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 7:50:21 PM #14:	Funkydog posted... Millennials being exposed to the internet and facts with much more ease meant we could learn and see for ourselves all the issues in religion. And then such was passed onto our children. Couple this with much less enforcement of "religious values" in the school in many western countries, numerous scandals in Christianity (paedophilies being protected, continued LGBT+phobia in a society with growing acceptance) then it is the natural evolution. Yeah. Religion is so tainted. It's not seen in a good light at all. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951821611] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite> <quote>Millennials being exposed to the internet and facts with much more ease meant we could learn and see for ourselves all the issues in religion. And then such was passed onto our children. Couple this with much less enforcement of "religious values" in the school in many western countries, numerous scandals in Christianity (paedophilies being protected, continued LGBT+phobia in a society with growing acceptance) then it is the natural evolution.</quote>Yeah. Religion is so tainted. It's not seen in a good light at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 03/17/21 7:51:43 PM #15:	Religion is archaic and outdated and incompatible with modern society. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:951821664] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Religion is archaic and outdated and incompatible with modern society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 03/17/21 7:54:47 PM #16:	They're born with access to information, no big shock. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:951821767] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>They're born with access to information, no big shock. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/17/21 7:56:30 PM #17:	Cool --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:951821825] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 03/17/21 7:57:09 PM #18:	Bad. It is the failure of believers though <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:951821852] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Bad. It is the failure of believers though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DravenRainrix 03/17/21 7:57:56 PM #19:	The internet has exposed the truth to those who will believe it, there will always be those that refuse the truth. --- Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Diddly do diddly do diddly do... <cite>DravenRainrix posted [p:951821883] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>The internet has exposed the truth to those who will believe it, there will always be those that refuse the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 03/17/21 7:59:10 PM #20:	I thought Islam was in such high increase that it overcame the decline in religion of other areas for a total increase in religiousness rather than decrease in the world. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:951821933] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>I thought Islam was in such high increase that it overcame the decline in religion of other areas for a total increase in religiousness rather than decrease in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 7:59:53 PM #21:	JimmyFraska posted... It is the failure of believers though The republican party is largely to blame. Some of the most corrupt people in power identify as "religious" and "conservative." Younger people see that and want to distance themselves from it all. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951821955] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>JimmyFraska posted... </cite> <quote>It is the failure of believers though</quote>The republican party is largely to blame. Some of the most corrupt people in power identify as "religious" and "conservative." Younger people see that and want to distance themselves from it all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 03/17/21 8:01:02 PM #22:	What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:951821999] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/17/21 8:01:51 PM #23:	Hop103 posted... What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion. Lmao okay friendo --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:951822027] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion.</quote> Lmao okay friendo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:02:42 PM #24:	DravenRainrix posted... The internet has exposed the truth to those who will believe it, there will always be those that refuse the truth. one of the links has a citation that explicitly calls this theory out as not really being the case. it was happening before the internet and social media too. i suspect it's related to material conditions. The richer a country gets, the less it needs to worry about anything and consequently the less it cares to pray or think about life after death. The poorer a country is, the more it places emphasis on a supreme power to give them hope and peace in their struggle towards a better life. still reading all the links the TC provided (and their citations) tho --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822059] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>DravenRainrix posted... </cite> <quote>The internet has exposed the truth to those who will believe it, there will always be those that refuse the truth.</quote> one of the links has a citation that explicitly calls this theory out as not really being the case. it was happening before the internet and social media too. i suspect it's related to material conditions. The richer a country gets, the less it needs to worry about anything and consequently the less it cares to pray or think about life after death. The poorer a country is, the more it places emphasis on a supreme power to give them hope and peace in their struggle towards a better life. still reading all the links the TC provided (and their citations) tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 8:03:49 PM #25:	pure_temper posted... one of the links has a citation that explicitly calls this theory out as not really being the case. it was happening before the internet and social media too. It was. But the internet expedited the whole thing. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951822106] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>one of the links has a citation that explicitly calls this theory out as not really being the case. it was happening before the internet and social media too.</quote>It was. But the internet expedited the whole thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:04:56 PM #26:	Hop103 posted... What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion. eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822159] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion.</quote> eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeyBones23 03/17/21 8:06:14 PM #27:	Religion has been such a bane on the world and held humanity back from so much positivity. --- We're a forest of lives, but we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. <cite>MonkeyBones23 posted [p:951822205] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Religion has been such a bane on the world and held humanity back from so much positivity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/17/21 8:07:37 PM #28:	pure_temper posted... eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows. Do you think we will find aliens? Do you think they exist? (My honest answers to these questions are no and yes, for context) --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:951822252] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted...</cite> <quote> eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows. </quote> Do you think we will find aliens? Do you think they exist? (My honest answers to these questions are no and yes, for context)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:09:13 PM #29:	Machete posted... Do you think we will find aliens? Do you think they exist? (My honest answers to these questions are no and yes, for context) Yes, and yes. On the first one, I consider it much more probable that aliens will have found earth first, since humanity is still a fledgling species that is only recently coming into its element. When that happens, if we are alive to see it I think we'll also see a resurgence of religious beliefs with the world's religions just saying their holy figures were obviously members of whatever that civilization or species is. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822310] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>Do you think we will find aliens? Do you think they exist? (My honest answers to these questions are no and yes, for context)</quote> Yes, and yes. On the first one, I consider it much more probable that aliens will have found earth first, since humanity is still a fledgling species that is only recently coming into its element. When that happens, if we are alive to see it I think we'll also see a resurgence of religious beliefs with the world's religions just saying their holy figures were obviously members of whatever that civilization or species is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 03/17/21 8:10:32 PM #30:	Outside of conversion therapy and molestor priests it was by far a net positive It going down makes total sense with how fucked society is. No genuine respect for each other, no caring about others, distrust in authority, country wide aimlessness and lack of basic skills. Nobody has any guidance toward a common good/goal. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:951822351] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Outside of conversion therapy and molestor priests it was by far a net positive It going down makes total sense with how fucked society is. No genuine respect for each other, no caring about others, distrust in authority, country wide aimlessness and lack of basic skills. Nobody has any guidance toward a common good/goal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:11:18 PM #31:	Xatrion posted... Religion is archaic and outdated and incompatible with modern society. MonkeyBones23 posted... Religion has been such a bane on the world and held humanity back from so much positivity. These are r/atheist type arguments that are not sophisticated at all lol. About as sophisticated as a fundie saying that atheism is responsible for Mao and Stalin. Obviously no serious atheist would agree with that train of thought. Do you think MLK and Malcom X post-Mecca were compatible with modern and future utopian society? Do you think they'd fit in? Because they were both very much into their respective faiths. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822379] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Xatrion posted... </cite> <quote>Religion is archaic and outdated and incompatible with modern society.</quote> MonkeyBones23 posted... </cite> <quote>Religion has been such a bane on the world and held humanity back from so much positivity.</quote> These are r/atheist type arguments that are not sophisticated at all lol. About as sophisticated as a fundie saying that atheism is responsible for Mao and Stalin. Obviously no serious atheist would agree with that train of thought. Do you think MLK and Malcom X post-Mecca were compatible with modern and future utopian society? Do you think they'd fit in? Because they were both very much into their respective faiths. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 03/17/21 8:11:42 PM #32:	pure_temper posted... eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows. Yeah, Christianity has gone into declines and bounced back constantly in history. America itself has had three or four revivals in it's history. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:951822398] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>eh my money is on it being a pendulum. at some point a counter-culture will emerge again and it'll trend towards some modernized or progressive versions of each religion. and then the circle will continue back and forth forever until we find aliens or humans are extinct lol. if one studies the concept of god it has become more complex over history as theologians and philosophers grappled with the question. i would not be so confident in saying this would never happen again because nobody knows.</quote>Yeah, Christianity has gone into declines and bounced back constantly in history. America itself has had three or four revivals in it's history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:13:51 PM #33:	RustyFerret posted... Yeah, Christianity has gone into declines and bounced back constantly in history. America itself has had three or four revivals in it's history. A tale as old as time. Same with every major worldview or religion. Be it Marxism, objectivism, scientism, statism, anything. People will discover and rediscover deeper interpretations of all frameworks or worldviews until we've either reached a utopia or we're gone. That's what my money is on. So everyone, enjoy whatever ideas or worldviews you wish to explore. Whenever you wish to explore them. It truly is just about enjoying your life and whatever ideas you pick. :) (That being said please remember that the Constitution must be guaranteed for all people regardless of identity. Secular society is the backbone of freedom from religions for those who want it and freedom of religion for those who wish to practice their faith in their community.) --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822461] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>RustyFerret posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, Christianity has gone into declines and bounced back constantly in history. America itself has had three or four revivals in it's history.</quote> A tale as old as time. Same with every major worldview or religion. Be it Marxism, objectivism, scientism, statism, anything. People will discover and rediscover deeper interpretations of all frameworks or worldviews until we've either reached a utopia or we're gone. That's what my money is on. So everyone, enjoy whatever ideas or worldviews you wish to explore. Whenever you wish to explore them. It truly is just about enjoying your life and whatever ideas you pick. :) (That being said please remember that the Constitution must be guaranteed for all people regardless of identity. Secular society is the backbone of freedom from religions for those who want it and freedom of religion for those who wish to practice their faith in their community.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuming 03/17/21 8:17:43 PM #34:	It's a mixed bag. In theory if people actually followed what christianity is about, we would unquestionably be a better world. In practice, organized religion has been so warped by psychotic narcissists on the far right that all it has really done is fuck people up and ruin lives for a very long time. Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive. Now? Just used by dumb people to justify their awful antisocial behavior. <cite>fuming posted [p:951822583] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>It's a mixed bag. In theory if people actually followed what christianity is about, we would unquestionably be a better world. In practice, organized religion has been so warped by psychotic narcissists on the far right that all it has really done is fuck people up and ruin lives for a very long time. Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive. Now? Just used by dumb people to justify their awful antisocial behavior. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Puglia77 03/17/21 8:19:22 PM #35:	Good. Live your own life, don't limit yourself by fake words from an imaginary person. --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1048-my-little-pony-gaming-is-magic ^My new MLP Community board. Bronies, come on and join! <cite>Puglia77 posted [p:951822657] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Good. Live your own life, don't limit yourself by fake words from an imaginary person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:19:31 PM #36:	fuming posted... Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive Of course. This is why MLK and Malcom X were assassinated. They were legitimately challenging the billionaire class from an angle of solidarity inspired by Christianity and Islam. Every single world religion is this way in how it can be interpreted when it's presented at its most charitable. You don't even have to take my word for it, by the way, anyone can study history to see for themselves. It's an enjoyable adventure for those who are into this subject. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822662] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive</quote> Of course. This is why MLK and Malcom X were assassinated. They were legitimately challenging the billionaire class from an angle of solidarity inspired by Christianity and Islam. Every single world religion is this way in how it can be interpreted when it's presented at its most charitable. You don't even have to take my word for it, by the way, anyone can study history to see for themselves. It's an enjoyable adventure for those who are into this subject. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeyBones23 03/17/21 8:19:32 PM #37:	pure_temper posted... These are r/atheist type arguments that are not sophisticated at all lol. About as sophisticated as a fundie saying that atheism is responsible for Mao and Stalin. Obviously no serious atheist would agree with that train of thought. Do you think MLK and Malcom X post-Mecca were compatible with modern and future utopian society? Do you think they'd fit in? Because they were both very much into their respective faiths. I wasn't giving an argument. I was giving my opinion. I'm on a video game message board, and I don't care to debate philosophical/ethical morals of religion. I gave my opinion, and that's all I care to do. --- We're a forest of lives, but we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. <cite>MonkeyBones23 posted [p:951822663] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>These are r/atheist type arguments that are not sophisticated at all lol. About as sophisticated as a fundie saying that atheism is responsible for Mao and Stalin. Obviously no serious atheist would agree with that train of thought. Do you think MLK and Malcom X post-Mecca were compatible with modern and future utopian society? Do you think they'd fit in? Because they were both very much into their respective faiths.</quote> I wasn't giving an argument. I was giving my opinion. I'm on a video game message board, and I don't care to debate philosophical/ethical morals of religion. I gave my opinion, and that's all I care to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 8:20:20 PM #38:	MonkeyBones23 posted... I wasn't giving an argument. I was giving my opinion. I'm on a video game message board, and I don't care to debate philosophical/ethical morals of religion. I gave my opinion, and that's all I care to do. Same here :) --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951822690] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MonkeyBones23 posted... </cite> <quote>I wasn't giving an argument. I was giving my opinion. I'm on a video game message board, and I don't care to debate philosophical/ethical morals of religion. I gave my opinion, and that's all I care to do.</quote> Same here :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 03/17/21 8:21:51 PM #39:	fuming posted... It's a mixed bag. In theory if people actually followed what christianity is about, we would unquestionably be a better world. In practice, organized religion has been so warped by psychotic narcissists on the far right that all it has really done is fuck people up and ruin lives for a very long time. Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive. Now? Just used by dumb people to justify their awful antisocial behavior. This guy gets it --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:951822739] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>It's a mixed bag. In theory if people actually followed what christianity is about, we would unquestionably be a better world. In practice, organized religion has been so warped by psychotic narcissists on the far right that all it has really done is fuck people up and ruin lives for a very long time. Back when there were prominent christian socialists? Maybe a net positive. Now? Just used by dumb people to justify their awful antisocial behavior.</quote> This guy gets it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 03/17/21 8:24:07 PM #40:	pure_temper posted... Same here :) you dont care to argue your opinions on a dying message board? Strange --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:951822812] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>Same here :)</quote> you dont care to argue your opinions on a dying message board? Strange </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 03/17/21 8:25:56 PM #41:	religion is gonna make a comeback how else are kids going to piss off their "accepting" parents --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:951822871] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>religion is gonna make a comeback how else are kids going to piss off their "accepting" parents </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 03/17/21 8:26:39 PM #42:	Im suddenly reminded of how someone recently tried to claim that atheism was going to completely die out within a decade --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:951822892] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Im suddenly reminded of how someone recently tried to claim that atheism was going to completely die out within a decade </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PokemonYoutube 03/17/21 8:35:12 PM #43:	Sadly Islam is still on the rise though. <cite>PokemonYoutube posted [p:951823170] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Sadly Islam is still on the rise though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 03/17/21 8:36:08 PM #44:	Oh no. Anyway... --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:951823196] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Oh no. Anyway...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 8:40:13 PM #45:	I see it as a bad thing because a lot of anti-religious people on the internet are proud of their ignorance regarding religion and theology. But extremist/fundamentalist religious people who impose their beliefs on others need to go away. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951823328] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>I see it as a bad thing because a lot of anti-religious people on the internet are proud of their ignorance regarding religion and theology. But extremist/fundamentalist religious people who impose their beliefs on others need to go away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 03/17/21 8:41:17 PM #46:	David1988 posted... Theyre all worshiping WAP now, its a different religion This. WAP is the new savior. --- I am super duper woke. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:951823363] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>David1988 posted... </cite> <quote>Theyre all worshiping WAP now, its a different religion</quote>This. WAP is the new savior. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamsungGearS2 03/17/21 8:41:48 PM #47:	Science > Religion. --- Devices: iPhone 12 Blue, HP Envy x360, Dell Inspiron 545S, Kindle Fire HD 10 White, 2018 Toyota Corolla LE Barcelona Red, 2017 Ford Focus ST Tuxedo Black <cite>SamsungGearS2 posted [p:951823383] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Science > Religion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 8:42:58 PM #48:	SamsungGearS2 posted... Science > Religion. The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951823414] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>SamsungGearS2 posted... </cite> <quote>Science > Religion.</quote> The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 03/17/21 8:43:08 PM #49:	PokemonYoutube posted... Sadly Islam is still on the rise though. 72 virgins > vague idea of heaven --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:951823419] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>PokemonYoutube posted... </cite> <quote>Sadly Islam is still on the rise though.</quote>72 virgins > vague idea of heaven </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 03/17/21 8:48:06 PM #50:	Damn_Underscore posted... The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem. New Atheist activists did a good job pushing the interpretation that they are. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:951823564] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem.</quote>New Atheist activists did a good job pushing the interpretation that they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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