Current Events > Pyra (yet another anime swordfighter) announced for Smash.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Jesus Christ.

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pros
~big titty anime waifu

cons
~anime swordfighter

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People: "We don't want anime swordfighters"
Sakurai: "Please enoy anime swordfighter"

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Whats wrong with anime sword fighters? I dont play smash

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Rika_Furude posted...

Whats wrong with anime sword fighters? I dont play smash

Smash fans are perpetually stuck in the 90s and early 00s, and thus want characters from games they grew up playing, not from newer, modern games.

That's why "anime" is such a buzzword, even though Link and Zelda 100% fit the anime aesthetic (but again, they grew up playing the Zelda games, so they get a pass).

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Nintendo in Randy Marsh voice

"Hey... fuck you!"

About sums up the direct.

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Rika_Furude posted...

Whats wrong with anime sword fighters? I dont play smash

The game has quite a few and like five characters from the DLC have swords. It's mostly Fire Emblem's fault due to that being their whole thing and the four clone-ish characters. The anime part is mostly a joke.

Rika_Furude posted...

Whats wrong with anime sword fighters? I dont play smash

A large portion of the characters in the game are swordfighters.

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Irony posted...

A large portion of the characters in the game are swordfighters.

A large portion of japanese video game characters are sword fighters.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Smash fans are perpetually stuck in the 90s and early 00s, and thus want characters from games they grew up playing, not from newer, modern games.

I refuse to believe the lie that smash is a game primarily played by adults and not teenagers born in the mid 00's.

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there are a fuckton of anime swordfighters. anybody trying to deny it is clowning hard. and it's not like anime swordfighter movesets can't be fun or unique, but there are a bunch of them. not hard to see why people are getting burnt out on them when they make up a quarter of the roster.

neverwin posted...

A large portion of japanese video game characters are sword fighters.

Exactly

Also lets not pretend people arent begging for other sword users like Dante or Sora

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Exactly

Also lets not pretend people arent begging for other sword users like Dante or Sora

Those are sword fighters people actually want tho. The difference here is this is a sword character that 99% of nintendo gamers have never even heard of

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yeah, if it weren't for the big titties, this would be the worst reveal yet. and i don't like the swapping gimmick. don't like it with pokemon trainer either

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JTilly posted...

Those are sword fighters people actually want tho. The difference here is this is a sword character that 99% of nintendo gamers have never even heard of

At the end of the day they're still "anime swordsman" as reductive as that phrase is

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Blue_Inigo posted...

At the end of the day they're still "anime swordsman" as reductive as that phrase is

Incredibly simplistic point of view but ok

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Wasn't there a big push to get doomguy into smash a while back? Wouldn't that have been more interesting of a choice?

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pogo_rabid posted...

Wasn't there a big push to get doomguy into smash a while back? Wouldn't that have been more interesting of a choice?

Maybe the next smash game haha

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JTilly posted...

Those are sword fighters people actually want tho. The difference here is this is a sword character that 99% of nintendo gamers have never even heard of

This one is a Nintendo Character unlike the others so this has more of a right in a smash game just on the grounds that it's Nintendos own character and thus doesn't need any agreement from a third party.

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neverwin posted...

This one is a Nintendo Character unlike the others so this has more of a right in a smash game just on the grounds that it's Nintendos own character and thus doesn't need any agreement from a third party.

I guess their saving that sweet, sweet Waluigi for the very last.. such teases

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Smash fans are perpetually stuck in the 90s and early 00s, and thus want characters from games they grew up playing, not from newer, modern games.

That's why "anime" is such a buzzword, even though Link and Zelda 100% fit the anime aesthetic (but again, they grew up playing the Zelda games, so they get a pass).

You didn't think this through. It's just that there's a disproportionate amount of these anime swordlads. It's not like anyone was mad about the introduction of Marth, Roy, or Ike. It just got saturated with 4.

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When are they going to add Deity Link?

Never. They didn't even incorporate him in Young Link's final smash >_> Like what the fuck Sakurai! You literally had ONE JOB

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DERES ALREADY 3 LlNKS

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JTilly posted...

DERES ALREADY 3 LlNKS

You'd think they would add the one Link that looks and plays radically different from the others

but NOPE! Let's just have 3 clones instead!

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LinkDaLunatic posted...

there are a fuckton of anime swordfighters. anybody trying to deny it is clowning hard. and it's not like anime swordfighter movesets can't be fun or unique, but there are a bunch of them. not hard to see why people are getting burnt out on them when they make up a quarter of the roster.

I can't find it right now but there was a smash roster pic that had the swordfighters (including stuff like Meta Knight and Mii swordfighter) grayed out that showed that all swordfighters are like 15% of the roster.

Moar liek Super Slash Bros, eh?
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Irony posted...

A large portion of the characters in the game are swordfighters.

Not even 20 characters out of an 80+ character roster.

pogo_rabid posted...

I refuse to believe the lie that smash is a game primarily played by adults and not teenagers born in the mid 00's.

A significant portion of the online-active Smash community is adults stuck in the 90s.

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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

You didn't think this through. It's just that there's a disproportionate amount of these anime swordlads. It's not like anyone was mad about the introduction of Marth, Roy, or Ike. It just got saturated with 4.

It's not just the "anime" characters, either. Newer characters like Bayonetta, Steve, and Min Min also got hate.

And as far as "anime" swordfighters are concerned, Smash 4 only added Robin, Lucina, and Shulk, with Cloud and Corrin as DLC. That's five Fighters out of 20+, six if you really want to include Dark Pit, whose bow can split into dual swords. Ultimate's base game only had Chrom, and while I admit that nearly half of the DLC fighters so far are swordfighters, overall they still make up a small portion of the roster.

The number of "anime" swordfighters in the game is overstated, plan and simple.

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Its odd how Sakurai said whats important about a character is that theyre fun to play and then decides to just keep adding generic anime sword characters that are essentially the same.

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I like her blonde mode more. Mythra looks divine.

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ThunderTrain posted...

Its odd how Sakurai said whats important about a character is that theyre fun to play and then decides to just keep adding generic anime sword characters that are essentially the same.

Who says that they won't be fun to play, or that they play the same as the other swordfighters?

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Who says that they won't be fun to play, or that they play the same as the other swordfighters?

Considering all the anime sword characters play the same, I doubt there will be that much variance.

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I mean, even as a casual Smash fan, it's hard to deny that there's an oversaturation of sword fighters in the game >_>

It's at the point where they kinda all blur together

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I thought she was a sword? pretty funny Sakurai

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ThunderTrain posted...

Considering all the anime sword characters play the same, I doubt there will be that much variance.

So these characters play the same?

Metaknight
Shulk
Link
Sephiroth
Byleth
Corrin
Robin
Hero

Ok

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Honestly, Smash is so big that no matter who they add some large subset of people are going to bitch about it. It's literally pointless for Nintendo to give a shit about the complaints or requests since they'll never please even a majority of people. Not like sales are probably hurting anyways.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Smash fans are perpetually stuck in the 90s and early 00s, and thus want characters from games they grew up playing, not from newer, modern games.

That's why "anime" is such a buzzword, even though Link and Zelda 100% fit the anime aesthetic (but again, they grew up playing the Zelda games, so they get a pass).

Yeah the anime swordfighter thing is pretty ridiculous, especially for a game with a roster as complete as Ultimate's base roster was.

But I do think people are very frustrated with how Nintendo has basically abandoned many of their classic IPs. I guess it's sort of rearing its head in Smash now as well.

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neverwin posted...

So these characters play the same?

Metaknight
Shulk
Link
Sephiroth
Byleth
Corrin
Robin
Hero

Ok

Sword go swosh

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Why are they wasting time expanding franchises that already have representation in the game when they could be spending their resources adding entirely new franchises? The past 2 fighters have been way less interesting than it would have been to add 2 new franchises to the game instead.

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Wetterdew posted...

Why are they wasting time expanding franchises that already have representation in the game when they could be spending their resources adding entirely new franchises? The past 2 fighters have been way less interesting than it would have been to add 2 new franchises to the game instead.

Lmao are you kidding me? Everyone was mega hyped for Sephiroth and of course he was wanted

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Blame video game media for leaning hard into the tropes to begin with. Smash is just selecting from the pool and has higher priorities than the weapon they hold.

Blue_Inigo posted...

Lmao are you kidding me? Everyone was mega hyped for Sephiroth and of course he was wanted

Sephiroth is big enough in gaming that he fits in the roster ok and there were lots of people hyped for him, but it's just inherently more boring to expand on Final Fantasy when they could have instead spent those dev resources on adding an entirely new franchise. And there were lots of people who were underwhelmed by seeing another FF character especially one from the same FF game as Cloud. When there are so many titan game franchises that still have NO representation at all.

Same goes for Pyra and Mythra.

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Anyone disappointed was massively outnumbered by those who wanted to see the most iconic JRPG villain in Smash. Xenoblade is somewhat popular nowadays so it makes sense that they would put in someone from its latest game. Sakurai even said he would've added someone into the launch version if it had come out sooner.

Final Fantasy has enough prestige for two mega popular characters to get in and be hype. It doesn't need to be just 1 character from an IP then move on

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We just disagree. With only several slots left for us to buy, it's just inherently more interesting to introduce new franchises as far as I'm concerned but it's fine if you disagree

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ThunderTrain posted...

Considering all the anime sword characters play the same, I doubt there will be that much variance.

That's completely false.

If you try to play Marth the same way as Ike, or Shulk, or Robin, or Byleth, or Sephiroth, then you're going to have a bad time.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

But I do think people are very frustrated with how Nintendo has basically abandoned many of their classic IPs. I guess it's sort of rearing its head in Smash now as well.

I mean, as far as Nintendo's own offerings, they're pretty much all set without going into the deep cuts of their more niche titles, which for DLC Fighters would not be very wise (such characters would be better fit as base game additions).

So, iat least with the DLC, it makes sense that we are seeing Fighters from newer Nintendo games, along with third party Fighters.

Wetterdew posted...

Why are they wasting time expanding franchises that already have representation in the game when they could be spending their resources adding entirely new franchises? The past 2 fighters have been way less interesting than it would have been to add 2 new franchises to the game instead.

Xenoblade 2 in particular was barely repped in the game (just three music tracks and some Spirits, and Rex's Mii Outfit as DLC), and it was a very popular Switch title. There's no problem at all with them wanting to expand the series' scope in Smash using a title that they were unable to include until now.

Plus, since Nintendo owns Xenoblade 100%, it's far easier to deal with rights and negotiations, which may be a boon in this COVID society.

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