Current Events > NYC removes benches from subway stations so homeless can't sleep on them

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There is a term for this hostile architecture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture

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Take that, homeless!

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If cities hate the homeless so much, why aren't there state sponsored deaths squads roaming the streets?

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symptoms of a dying civilization

pogo_rabid posted...

If cities hate the homeless so much, why aren't there state sponsored deaths squads roaming the streets?

What if I told you there were and that theres a three digit number you can call to summon them

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shironinja posted...

Lmfao

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Just removing benches isn't hostile architecture. Now if they get replaced by benches that are hard to sleep on or replaced by concrete bumps, that's hostile architecture.
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Fuckin stupid.

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what's crazy is that those benches are inherently uncomfortable and shit so this is just taking it a step further

Orchestrion posted...

What if I told you there were and that theres a three digit number you can call to summon them

They're not removing the homeless very effectively then if they need to remove the benches

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it's meant to punish everyone as a whole. cant sit when waiting for a ride.
all because homeless have nowhere else to sleep.
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I live in a city where homeless are actively encouraged to sleep in train stations in the winter so they don't freeze to death.

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

I live in a city where homeless are actively encouraged to sleep in train stations in the winter so they don't freeze to death.

Ugh. What a terrible city you live in!

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FaceIess posted...

Im an MTA worker and lemme tell you this wont change much, theres plenty that sleep in the floor as is. All this dude is fuck up the people that wanna sit down after a hard days work.

Pretty much.

The big city for the homeless must be pretty weird but less boring.

Here in NC they just set up camps in wooded areas around the towns and cities.

Wonder the streets during the day and sleep in the woods at night.

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yea i don't understand why they think removing a bench will stop the homeless...they're looking for a shelter. its not like the bench is a much more comfortable bed than the floor would be.

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That's the problem with America, instead of solving the problem they try to erase or put in the rug which makes matters worse. I hate capitalism with all my heart

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FaceIess posted...

Im an MTA worker and lemme tell you this wont change much, theres plenty that sleep in the floor as is. All this dude is fuck up the people that wanna sit down after a hard days work.

Truth.
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The original plan was to have a sensor that detected homeless people and then spikes would come out of the benches, but this was deemed too expensive.

ncsonic posted...

instead of solving the problem they try to erase or put in the rug which makes matters worse

this. though if caught outside sleeping within the town it's automatic 600$ fines all around.
cops patrol everywhere.

have to go to the mountain to sleep since they don't go around there.
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If they left the benches alone, and gave each homeless person there $500 to go elsewhere, they would still be ahead of the game money wise.

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This has to be a contender for "dumbest Tweet of the year so far," right? JP should be polishing their resume right about now...

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why not destroy the entire station just to make sure homeless people wouldn't sleep there

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VipaGTS posted...

yea i don't understand why they think removing a bench will stop the homeless...they're looking for a shelter. its not like the bench is a much more comfortable bed than the floor would be.

Technically the benches would be a bit more comfortable. Off the ground so less bugs/vermin and if not made of metal, less cold leeching.

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kingdrake2 posted...

this. though if caught outside sleeping within the town it's automatic 600$ fines all around.
cops patrol everywhere.

have to go to the mountain to sleep since they don't go around there.

How tf do homeless people pay $600 fines though

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They dont, courts normally just drop their fines or charges

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MTA literally removing benches instead of fixing their 1970s rail system. Fucking bums.
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lol what a stupid reaction

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eston posted...

How tf do homeless people pay $600 fines though

stays on the record they don't pay. probably get put in county jail.
doubt they're enforcing it due to the pandemic.
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This happened in Anchorage years ago.

well..

at bus stops, we dun have subways

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Hope this shit doesn't happen to Philly. All the city does now is emulate the "NY experience" that makes NYC a place not worth living anymore.

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Graycap posted...

MTA literally removing benches instead of fixing their 1970s rail system. Fucking bums.

70s? try 30s lol

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TheCodeisBosco posted...

This has to be a contender for "dumbest Tweet of the year so far," right? JP should be polishing their resume right about now...

I get the feeling JP was aware of that possibility when he or she typed that.

why is Biden doing this

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LightHawKnight posted...

Technically the benches would be a bit more comfortable. Off the ground so less bugs/vermin and if not made of metal, less cold leeching.

and as people with the privilege to choose, we can see those distinctions...If you were homeless, cold and just looking for a covered area that is slightly warmer to sleep in, you're not going to turn around and walk out when you notice the bench is gone.

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VipaGTS posted...

and as people with the privilege to choose, we can see those distinctions...If you were homeless, cold and just looking for a covered area that is slightly warmer to sleep in, you're not going to turn around and walk out when you notice the bench is gone.

And? The only thing I ever said was that benches are more comfortable than the floor.

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ok

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Martin et al v. Boise only states that homeless can't be punished for sleeping rough when no shelter is available. It does not obligate jurisdictions to make it easy. Conversely, by establishing an adequate quantity of shelter, a jurisdiction is free to resume punshisment

VipaGTS posted...

yea i don't understand why they think removing a bench will stop the homeless...they're looking for a shelter. its not like the bench is a much more comfortable bed than the floor would be.

The subway station isn't a shelter though.

ncsonic posted...

That's the problem with America, instead of solving the problem they try to erase or put in the rug which makes matters worse. I hate capitalism with all my heart

Lol wtf does this have to do with capitalism?

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Conflict posted...

That's actually the stupidest fucking thing. You're inconveniencing the homeless and people sitting while waiting for their train for what

The homeless were gathering in subway stations during the rise of COVID in NYC. People avoided the subway because they didn't want to travel in packs. As people started returning to work, they were met with a larger percentage of homeless people in subway stations. There were also higher incidents of muggings and other crimes.

There should be more of an effort to help the homeless not be homeless, but there are homeless people who adapt to that lifestyle and rather live on the streets. But the subway station isn't a shelter, and you'll be surprised how often homeless people avoid actual shelters for public areas.

Lyrica posted...

The homeless were gathering in subway stations during the rise of COVID in NYC. People avoided the subway because they didn't want to travel in packs. As people started returning to work, they were met with a larger percentage of homeless people in subway stations. There were also higher incidents of muggings and other crimes.

they're always there, they've always been there - just that because the subways are closing every night they're just coming to the surface. nothing has changed, this amount of homeless are just now being brought to light.

Dark_SilverX posted...

why is Biden doing this

sloppy Joe hasn't given us money either, smh

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