Poll of the Day > I refuse to see a therapist or go to group therapy of any sort.

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I won't even open up to anyone about my problems, with the sole exception of one person whom I know would never tell anyone, and I guess I could add PotD to that small list, as I know some of ya'll are kind enough to respond with a calm outlook, instead of bashing me, an idiot, etc.

Why am I unwilling to open up to anyone for the most part however?

Because I sort of have an ego, and I want to prove to myself and hopefully everyone at some point that I am well capable of controlling my emotions, and that everyone around me is just weak and incompetent.

But it turns out, that I actually have no control whatsoever of my emotions, but I have in fact just been suppressing them, with these small outburst onto people that I know in real life showing it.

I am also, depressed, majorly. To the point where I am suffering from bipolar, OCD, anger management issues, etc.

Which is funny, I've been denying that I've had some mental health problems.

I would be willing to talk to someone, like that one person that I mentioned. But he is the ONLY person that would be willing to talk to about anything, because no one else, not even PotD, could possibly understand.

I wish I could talk to him, but I haven't seen him in 4 years.

So I guess there's no one here but the fine folks of PotD to help me vent my mental health problems...if I even decide to vent my problems at all.

Based on what you've written, your refusal to seek some sort of therapeutic help will only hinder you in the end. Trust me, I get it. I was resistant to getting mental health treatment for the longest time. I figured I could just power through and it'd get easier in time. But it only gets easier if you have the right tool set and support network. Therapy is one of the first steps to creating that.

It might be worth looking into a remote service (BetterHelp, LemonAid, Cerebral), because you can choose to do it through mostly textual means which I imagine will be a good transition for you since you say you're comfortable here and PotD is a textual medium. They work with your schedule and are mostly affordable, even without insurance.

I really wouldn't recommend coming to PotD for serious help. Sure, there's a handful of nice people here, but overall this place is toxic and not conducive to positive growth.

thedeerzord posted...

because no one else, not even PotD, could possibly understand.

I feel like this is the biggest defense mechanism line ever. It's not that anyone couldn't understand. In fact I reckon it'd be quite the opposite and a lot of people would understand and even sympathize. It's that you don't want to feel that open and exposed to allow someone to learn who you really are and you don't ever really know if a person will accept you for it. It's a hard thing to do and that at least I do understand.

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What problems you having exactly?

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JigsawTDC posted...

I really wouldn't recommend coming to PotD for serious help. Sure, there's a handful of nice people here, but overall this place is toxic and not conducive to positive growth.

You would think that people with mental health problems would at least be a bit for compassionate towards people with mental health problems.

Therapist aren't all bad mine are just happy to get out of the house or tour them through the gun range.

-schizophrenic

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thedeerzord posted...

You would think that people with mental health problems would at least be a bit for compassionate towards people with mental health problems.

Generalizations can only get you so far. I've met plenty of compassionate people who have gone through or are going through mental health struggles. I've met plenty of assholes who have gone through or are going through mental health struggles. For many it's hard to have compassion or consideration when their own struggles are taking front and focus. It's why you can't rely on Internet randos when you need a professional.

JigsawTDC posted...

Based on what you've written, your refusal to seek some sort of therapeutic help will only hinder you in the end.

Therapists don't work for everyone. They need to convince you of a more positive outlook, and some people aren't receptive to that at all.

Psychiatrists can at the very least give you some medication that will alter your brain. Those guys can 100% help anyone that wants to change the way their brain works, very forcefully. Therapists can only help people who are receptive to it. Psychiatrists can only help people who are incapable of helping themselves.

Then there are people like me who suffer from both of those things. I don't have money to throw at a professional friend if it's not going to help me, just a waste of money and time.

Plus my memory is split and segmented. I never remember all my problems at once in one hour a week, only at night when I'm staring at my ceiling. I can't just scan my brain for what's bothering me on the spot. I've never been prescribed the same diagnosis twice, I've made a lot of useless visits to these people. I feel bad for making them feel like failures when in reality they're not designed for me.

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Yellow posted...

Therapists don't work for everyone.

I never claimed they did. My post was very specifically in response to the OP, not whatever your situation is that you're trying to project onto this. That all sounds like a bummer for you and I hope you find the help you need, whatever that ends up being.

Didn't you claim to be pregnant when you're a bloke?

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wwinterj25 posted...

Didn't you claim to be pregnant when you're a bloke?

Naw bruh I'm a guy

If I ever had group therapy, I would need therapy afterwards because I am not comfortable around people.

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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

If I ever had group therapy, I would need therapy afterwards because I am not comfortable around people.

Every group therapy I've ever heard of comes with an individual portion as well.

thedeerzord posted...

Naw bruh I'm a guy

Yes. I know you are. However you made up a fake pregnancy.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Yes. I know you are. However you made up a fake pregnancy.

Ok? So?

thedeerzord posted...

Ok? So?

Just making sure this is the same user. I hope your dog isn't attracted to that fake smell anymore.

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What a shit gimmick.

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AWinterJ posted...

What a shit gimmick.

Lol, I was trying too see if someone would see that I was lying, but no one noticed.

https://i.imgur.com/5TyBGBc.mp4

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i have a therapist, it's actually more masculine to admit you need help, ok?

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Yellow posted...

Therapists don't work for everyone. They need to convince you of a more positive outlook, and some people aren't receptive to that at all.

I mean that's not necessarily true. There are different methods out there.

For example, when going over some of my fears, my therapist was like, "You can't tell someone who has had their house burn down not to be afraid again that that won't happen. Because it happened. You know it can happen. So you can't just say it probably won't happen again because that doesn't help you." So I'm learning to just sit with my pain and fear and get through it.

I'm not spinning things positive. I'm looking at the worst things that can happen and knowing what I can do there or live through it. But then also balancing that with reality checks.

Yellow posted...

Plus my memory is split and segmented. I never remember all my problems at once in one hour a week, only at night when I'm staring at my ceiling.

Same. Writing things down to go over later helps.

Yellow posted...

I've made a lot of useless visits to these people. I feel bad for making them feel like failures when in reality they're not designed for me.

It can take shopping around a lot. I've been to 5 different ones before I found one that has actually not been completely useless. It helps if you can find someone who specializes in the area. Before I was looking for people for anxiety/depression but really I needed someone for trauma.

That said, I'm not going to say therapy works for everyone. But I don't think it's good to discourage people from ever trying, and I think there needs to be expectations set that it might take going through different ones before anything sticks so people don't give up after it not working immediately. Took me years and I'm just finally getting something out of it, but it's been sorely needed help.

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JigsawTDC posted...

Based on what you've written, your refusal to seek some sort of therapeutic help will only hinder you in the end. Trust me, I get it. I was resistant to getting mental health treatment for the longest time. I figured I could just power through and it'd get easier in time. But it only gets easier if you have the right tool set and support network. Therapy is one of the first steps to creating that.

I really wouldn't recommend coming to PotD for serious help. Sure, there's a handful of nice people here, but overall this place is toxic and not conducive to positive growth.

Also everything here ditto

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If all you want is to talk, then this place isnt too bad. But the response will definitely vary. Personally, I probably should see a therapist of something, but I dont want to shell out the money. I also dont want to actually talk to one. But its whatever. Ill probably be fine...
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Go to therapy

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Yellow posted...

Therapists don't work for everyone. They need to convince you of a more positive outlook

that's absolutely not the job of a therapist. their job isn't to soothe you, it's to identify your bad thought processes so that you can start working on them

that's the idea at least, but there are certainly plenty of therapists that aren't equipped to deal with specialized circumstances. as well as a lot of plain bad therapists

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Kanatteru posted...

that's absolutely not the job of a therapist. their job isn't to soothe you, it's to identify your bad thought processes so that you can start working on them

that's the idea at least, but there are certainly plenty of therapists that aren't equipped to deal with specialized circumstances. as well as a lot of plain bad therapists

yup. if a therapist doesn't click for you, just move on

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Thats your choice. I think some kind of therapy or counseling is good for most people, but unless someone is a danger to themself or others then I dont think anyone should be forced into it.

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Yellow posted...

Therapists don't work for everyone. They need to convince you of a more positive outlook, and some people aren't receptive to that at all.

Psychiatrists can at the very least give you some medication that will alter your brain. Those guys can 100% help anyone that wants to change the way their brain works, very forcefully. Therapists can only help people who are receptive to it. Psychiatrists can only help people who want drugs.

Then there are people like me who suffer from both of those things. I don't have money to throw at a professional friend if it's not going to help me, just a waste of money and time.

Plus my memory is split and segmented. I never remember all my problems at once in one hour a week, only at night when I'm staring at my ceiling. I can't just scan my brain for what's bothering me on the spot. I've never been prescribed the same diagnosis twice, I've made a lot of useless visits to these people. I feel bad for making them feel like failures when in reality they're not designed for me.

I came here to pretty much say this. Also suffer from mental health issues. Depression, suicidal thoughts. You name it, I got it. I am pretty fucking screwed in the head. If you wanna go for meds, thats really a 50/50 issue. Yeah it works... but, thats kinda hard to talk about because I was on 5 god damn different medications! One for depression, one used as a booster, one that is Diazepam for anxiety, one for night terrors, and one for helping sleep at night. And let me tel you right now... its not very ideal to be on that many meds even if you are as fucked up as I am because it turned me into feeling like a zombie. And not to mention I felt more of a fake sort of feeling happiness and it was all just artificial just because these meds I took. But... it did make me mellow which was at least a plus. I dont take them anymore though.
Even when I was suicidal.. the hospital didnt even do anything for me because they cant do anything for me that very night I was, making it all a waste of time and the same old stupid game of 20 questions and before you know it you are out the door on your way to no where with a set of papers to resources that you are already going to or who the fuck knows how else to treat you. Its funny...people only tend to care when you are suicidal at that very moment but the next day and the next day? Nothing never changes...

Now, with that overall being said..I still do see a psychologist and talk twice a week. I guess I do this because it helps keep me alive. And I overall didnt end up trying to kill myself like I almost went for two years ago. So, I guess thats a plus. I try to keep my mind in active things or trying to accomplish something very little such as painting my first ever Bob Ross painting. Those bad suicidal thoughts never really go away for me, its almost fucking painful at times.. and im surprised im still alive these days with my crippling depression at this rate. But, I like to think im struggling along in a sort of ok ish sort of way to stay around a while longer.

TaKun782 posted...

the hospital didnt even do anything for me

hospitals are terrible with mental health

TaKun782 posted...

I still do see a psychologist and talk twice a week. I guess I do this because it helps keep me alive.

so it's helpful

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grimhilde00 posted...

hospitals are terrible with mental health

so it's helpful

That's a hard way to answer if its helpful. Because I feel like I'm not making any progress in my life towards feeling better at this rate. I mean, I've got my reasons for doing it like I said. And what else is there possibly are there..? Not many other options sadly when you think about it. Having a mental health issue feels more like a luxury at times. I'm just glad I can scrap by on Medicare though otherwise I'd be fucked with no help.

grimhilde00 posted...

hospitals are terrible with mental health

Yep. They just send me to my doctor. The doctor offers drugs and/or CBT for my seemingly anxiety issues(still not convinced). I tried two different types of drugs then decided to go without them. Some CBT stuff helps though. Walking/hiking is however one of my biggest helps. Different strokes, different folks though.


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wwinterj25 posted...

Yep. They just send me to my doctor. The doctor offers drugs and/or CBT for my seemingly anxiety issues(still not convinced). I tried two different types of drugs then decided to go without them. Some CBT stuff helps though. Walking/hiking is however one of my biggest helps. Different strokes, different folks though.

For me, it was like this. Felt suicidal. Psych doctor called the paramedics. They took me to said hospital. 20 questions. Here's some papers. And then sent on my merry way. The next day comes...still felt suicidal. Had to go back to said hospital again. Twice in two days here. Same thing again but with different doctor whose English was very bad and had the fucking gull to ask me "So, what can we do for you?" For fucks sakes...I was told to come here, forced to even come here by my psych doctor and I get asked this fucking question. Ya know...Im not no god damn doctor or anything, but if you know of a way to cure suicidal thoughts and erase the pain of being fucked by an older brother who had his ways with you, then please do tell. Because for what it's worth? Jesus, I don't even know anymore...

TaKun782 posted...

had the fucking gull to ask me "So, what can we do for you?"

Oh a CBT therapist who I saw for a few months literally said "well there is nothing more we can do for you" after I asked for other options outside of CBT and medication. She was very dismissive. Clearly just got her "knowledge" from babies first steps at uni. Mental health support is really bad. I don't expect a magical fix but I do expect more support. I clearly expect too much.

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thedeerzord posted...

You would think that people with mental health problems would at least be a bit for compassionate towards people with mental health problems.

I have no compassion for people who refuse to get help.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Oh a CBT therapist who I saw for a few months literally said "well there is nothing more we can do for you" after I asked for other options outside of CBT and medication. She was very dismissive. Clearly just got her "knowledge" from babies first steps at uni. Mental health support is really bad. I don't expect a magical fix but I do expect more support. I clearly expect too much.

They can do so much better then that horse shit. I'm sorry you also had to hear that shit load of fuck. It's not very appeasing when someone tells that straight up to your face when you are in so much pain. And what some people don't realise is that it hurts...and hearing that makes it feels worse knowing they can't do more.

TaKun782 posted...

They can do so much better then that horse shit. I'm sorry you also had to hear that shit load of fuck. It's not very appeasing when someone tells that straight up to your face when you are in so much pain. And what some people don't realise is that it hurts...and hearing that makes it feels worse knowing they can't do more.

I saw I was wasting my time and now just deal with my own problems myself. It's working fine for the most part. Even more so when I'm more productive and my mind if off my mind....

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wwinterj25 posted...

I saw I was wasting my time and now just deal with my own problems myself. It's working fine for the most part. Even more so when I'm more productive and my mind if off my mind....

Same...I also try to keep myself busy. Trying new things like painting portraits or taking up new hobbies I guess. My boyfriend keeps me in check which is always nice to have and I try to look forward to the little things to make me happy or finding creative ways to cure this god awful disease. Not saying it ever goes away...but if you can find ways to make things better in your life. Go all out for it if it makes you feel happy. It's what matters most.

wwinterj25 posted...

Yep. They just send me to my doctor. The doctor offers drugs and/or CBT for my seemingly anxiety issues(still not convinced). I tried two different types of drugs then decided to go without them. Some CBT stuff helps though. Walking/hiking is however one of my biggest helps. Different strokes, different folks though.

CBT was very limited in how helpful it was in my experience. I don't think it's good enough for many people

I've found DBT more effective and this next week I'll be starting EMDR.

DBT is supposed to be useful for cptsd, bpd, and chronic thoughts of suicide. EMDR for PTSD, but apparently more too.

TaKun782 posted...

That's a hard way to answer if its helpful. Because I feel like I'm not making any progress in my life towards feeling better at this rate. I mean, I've got my reasons for doing it like I said. And what else is there possibly are there..? Not many other options sadly when you think about it. Having a mental health issue feels more like a luxury at times. I'm just glad I can scrap by on Medicare though otherwise I'd be fucked with no help.

I didn't mean to be callous but I came off that way. I definitely relate to the sentiment of barely wading water and therapy is just a drifting raft only keeping you so afloat. I guess I just really need to hope it takes me somewhere else. And without it is worse. So you gotta do what little you can?

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grimhilde00 posted...

CBT was very limited in how helpful it was in my experience. I don't think it's good enough for many people

I should say "not the right fit" rather than "I don't think it's good enough".

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Jokes on you, I'm an MFT Trainee so you kinda just told a therapist your problems.