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One of the things I really liked was this.

"We can't tell you who we are. Or where we live. It's too risky, and we've got to be careful. Really careful. So we don't trust anyone. Because if they find us... well, we just won't let them find us. The thing you should know is that everyone is in really big trouble. Yeah. Even you."

Then at book 51 it changes to this.

"Here's the deal these days: They know exactly who we are. They know exactly where we live. We've got a few secrets left, and we're gonna use them. But just know that the end is coming. And we don't know how much longer we can do this. How much longer can we fight. What about you? Where will you be when it ends? Think about it. Think hard. Because the countdown has already begun..."

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Strider102 posted...

One of the things I really liked was this.

"We can't tell you who we are. Or where we live. It's too risky, and we've got to be careful. Really careful. So we don't trust anyone. Because if they find us... well, we just won't let them find us. The thing you should know is that everyone is in really big trouble. Yeah. Even you."

Then at book 51 it changes to this.

"Here's the deal these days: They know exactly who we are. They know exactly where we live. We've got a few secrets left, and we're gonna use them. But just know that the end is coming. And we don't know how much longer we can do this. How much longer can we fight. What about you? Where will you be when it ends? Think about it. Think hard. Because the countdown has already begun..."

There is a such a potent viral marketing campaign for a film here if they don't cheesedick the whole thing

It's a property begging for adaptation

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The end of the series is basically "COMMIT WAR CRIMES FOR MORE TIME ON THE CLOCK" as the Animorphs struggle to hold off the Yeerks in open warfare long enough for the Andalite fleet to arrive.

Murphiroth posted...

The end of the series is basically "COMMIT WAR CRIMES FOR MORE TIME ON THE CLOCK" as the Animorphs struggle to hold off the Yeerks in open warfare long enough for the Andalite fleet to arrive.

And Jake takes the burden for that. Rachel, and Tobias as well. Ax is treated like a hero. Cassie never has to become the end all be all bad guy. Marco is marco.

Damn what a great series lol

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This may be a controversial take but KA Applegates next series Everworld was much, much better than The Animorphs, despite being much shorter.

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MrToothHasYou posted...

This may be a controversial take but KA Applegates next series Everworld was much, much better than The Animorphs, despite being much shorter.

I never got it, do you mean more well written or plotwise or?

My school only had the last book so obv I didn't understand what was happening lol

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ShyOx posted...

I never got it, do you mean more well written or plotwise or?

Both, although thats partly because so much of Animorphs was ghostwritten. The concept of Everworld was cooler to me, though, because it blended high fantasy with science fiction elements.

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MrToothHasYou posted...

Both, although thats partly because so much of Animorphs was ghostwritten. The concept of Everworld was cooler to me, though, because it blended high fantasy with science fiction elements.

How bout that 5 minute overview? :D

Of course I can wiki it but from fan to fan I think it would help more. Doesn't have to be an epic, I'm sure the first book is straight forward

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ShyOx posted...

How bout that 5 minute overview? :D

Of course I can wiki it but from fan to fan I think it would help more. Doesn't have to be an epic, I'm sure the first book is straight forward

The basic premise is: a bunch of high school kids get pulled into an alternate dimension called Everworld where all of the old world gods exist, having left the original world behind. The whole world basically exists as a giant patchwork of zones that are controlled by different pantheons that border each other (so theres a Greek area and a Norse area and a Roman area, an Aztec area, Egyptian etc.) and these are populated by humans that the gods brought with them when they left the real world. There are also alien gods from other planets/dimensions who exist there as well. The kids have to survive and find/rescue their classmate who is a witch in order to try to get back to the real world. There are huge battles between different forces, particularly between the human gods and an alien god named Ka Anor who wants to eat all the other gods.

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I liked looking at the cover of the book. Never cared to read them.
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MrToothHasYou posted...

The basic premise is: a bunch of high school kids get pulled into an alternate dimension called Everworld where all of the old world gods exist, having left the original world behind. The whole world basically exists as a giant patchwork of zones that are controlled by different pantheons that border each other (so theres a Greek area and a Norse area and a Roman area, an Aztec area, Egyptian etc.) and these are populated by humans that the gods brought with them when they left the real world. There are also alien gods from other planets/dimensions who exist there as well. The kids have to survive and find/rescue their classmate who is a witch in order to try to get back to the real world. There are huge battles between different forces, particularly between the human gods and an alien god named Ka Anor who wants to eat all the other gods.

Oh damn you you might have given me a new obsession lol. I'd give you 15 karma right now if it were a thing

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ShyOx posted...

Oh damn you you might have given me a new obsession lol. I'd give you 15 karma right now if it were a thing

Its seriously good, and its only like 12 books? The characters are all very well fleshed out, too - its sort of similar to Animorphs where each book is narrated by a different character. Theres the leader guy who is Jewish and suffers from a hero complex, the Marco-esque comic relief guy who is kind of a shithead, a black guy who is super smart and scientifically knowledgeable but has crippling OCD, a girl who is a devout Catholic and sort of perfect student type popular personality, and the witch, who is creepy and manipulative.

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MrToothHasYou posted...

Its seriously good, and its only like 12 books? The characters are all very well fleshed out, too - its sort of similar to Animorphs where each book is narrated by a different character. Theres the leader guy who is Jewish and suffers from a hero complex, the Marco-esque comic relief guy who is kind of a shithead, a black guy who is super smart and scientifically knowledgeable but has crippling OCD, a girl who is a devout Catholic and sort of perfect student type popular personality, and the witch, who is creepy and manipulative.

The grave is dug, just tell me where to lie down lol

I'm sure theyre not hard to find

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@ShyOx Let me get a link to that podcast when it's done.

Also, has anyone else read the Gone series by Michael Grant, Applegates husband? More kids saving the world stuff that gets very dark.

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Strider102 posted...

One of the things I really liked was this.

"We can't tell you who we are. Or where we live. It's too risky, and we've got to be careful. Really careful. So we don't trust anyone. Because if they find us... well, we just won't let them find us. The thing you should know is that everyone is in really big trouble. Yeah. Even you."

Then at book 51 it changes to this.

"Here's the deal these days: They know exactly who we are. They know exactly where we live. We've got a few secrets left, and we're gonna use them. But just know that the end is coming. And we don't know how much longer we can do this. How much longer can we fight. What about you? Where will you be when it ends? Think about it. Think hard. Because the countdown has already begun..."

I remember seeing that change and remember thinking "oh fuck, what happened?" but since I was poor I couldn't afford these.

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Bad news, it appears KA and her husband have left the Animorphs movie saying due to creative differences back in Oct. 2020, apparently they were not being included enough in the production process.

Well there goes my faith in the movie, the creators should be giving the most input and the people making the movie should be asking them is this correct ?.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Bad news, it appears KA and her husband have left the Animorphs movie saying due to creative differences back in Oct. 2020, apparently they were not being included enough in the production process.

Well there goes my faith in the movie, the creators should be giving the most input and the people making the movie should be asking them is this correct ?.

Nah obviously some producer or director who hadn't even heard of the series before this project knows what the fans TRULY want.

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cuh posted...

tell me what happens

Most of them die. Cassie survives for sure, and maybe 1 or 2 of the others. It's implied Jake might survive.

How specific do we need to get lol?

They run into a being out in space (Jake, Marco and Tobias) while looking for Ax. It's consumed him like The Thing into some master organism. It's on its way to becoming this deity level power. They don't have the weapons to fight against the ship it's in, the Blade Ship. Marco had told Jake he would only follow him if he promised to be 'reckless and ruthless' like he was during the time of the war. Jake aknowledges this, smiles in a way that reminds them of Rachel(the animorph Jake essentially sacrificed to win the war, his own cousin) and tells them to ram the blade ship. It's a recall back to when Elfangor gave the same order, implying in some way Jake may have survived.

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is each book a short read like goosebumps? they seemed daunting as a kis but flipping through one now you realize how big the font was and short the stories actually were.

this series is 50+ books yea?

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ModLogic posted...

is each book a short read like goosebumps? they seemed daunting as a kis but flipping through one now you realize how big the font was and short the stories actually were.

this series is 50+ books yea?

From what I remember they were pretty short, like less than an hour per book. And yeah there's 54 main books, and then there's maybe like 10-20 'spin-off' books, some that fill in backstory for certain characters, and then there are the Megamorph books that are longer books where the perspective jumps between the characters instead of focusing on one character like the main books typically do.

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Started reading. I think I read probably 15 - 20 of them as a kid. But never in much of an order. Onto book three now.

Tobias about to kamikaze himself to death through a glass window, but Marco battered up and smashed it with a baseball just in time. Fuck yeah, Marco.

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ModLogic posted...

is each book a short read like goosebumps? they seemed daunting as a kis but flipping through one now you realize how big the font was and short the stories actually were.

this series is 50+ books yea?

a little longer than goosebumps. Those were like 120 pages while animorphs are more like 150-180. First book took me 2 hours but Im a slow reader and its one of the longer ones. And thanks to kindle time I learned that there are books I read with chapters longer than an animorphs book.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

Started reading. I think I read probably 15 - 20 of them as a kid. But never in much of an order. Onto book three now.

Tobias about to kamikaze himself to death through a glass window, but Marco battered up and smashed it with a baseball just in time. Fuck yeah, Marco.

Early on the hawk thing drove him a little crazy, the animals instincts took over.

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Bump so good topic doesn't die.

I'm on book 7.

They were offered an out by the Ellimist. Haven't read this one before. The discussion about whether they should take his offer to save some humans and set them up on a new planet or continuing their fight despite the Ellimist telling them they will eventually lose is pretty deep.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

Bump so good topic doesn't die.

This, I wanna see this get to 500. So keep the conversation going or I'm gonna have to post fanart to keep the topic alive. And nobody will like that.



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SpaceBear_ posted...

Bump so good topic doesn't die.

I'm on book 7.

They were offered an out by the Ellimist. Haven't read this one before. The discussion about whether they should take his offer to save some humans and set them up on a new planet or continuing their fight despite the Ellimist telling them they will eventually lose is pretty deep.

This and up to book 10 are the big turning point books, where they're no longer the proto-animorphs and start to rack up victories.

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Now on the first Andalite Chronicles Book. Bizarrely, from all the books I've read and for the years I've known of this series, I've never considered who exactly Visser Three's host is.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

Now on the first Andalite Chronicles Book. Bizarrely, from all the books I've read and for the years I've known of this series, I've never considered who exactly Visser Three's host is.

Hes in the Hork Bajir one as well, as a POV. In Visser a lot as well. Always good to see characters get more fleshed out

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MrToothHasYou posted...

This may be a controversial take but KA Applegates next series Everworld was much, much better than The Animorphs, despite being much shorter.

Remember the part where one of the main dudes literally works in a Kinko's with a psychotic Neo-Nazi? And he the psycho tries to get him to help kidnap the other main dude who is black.

Rough stuff.

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I'm up to book 8 in my read-through.

Completely forgot about Ax meeting Marco's father.

Marco had warned me to say nothing to his father but "yes" and "no."
"No," I said to Marco's father.
"I'm Marco's dad. Are you a friend of his?"
"Yes."
"What's your name?"
"No," I answered.
"Your name is 'No'?"
"Yes."
"That's an unusual name, isn't it?"
"No."
"It's not?"
"Yes."
"Yes, it's not an unusual name?"
"No."
"Now I'm totally confused."
"Yes."
Marco's father stared at me. Then, in a loud voice he yelled, "Hey, Marco? Marco? Would you . . . um . . . your friend is here. Your friend 'No' is here."
"No," I said.
"Yes, that's what I said."

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DrizztLink posted...

I'm up to book 8 in my read-through.

Completely forgot about Ax meeting Marco's father.

Ax's awkwardness trying to interact with human culture is always one of my favorite character traits. I still sometimes use his "joke" from book 23:

Tobias: <Hey, Ax-man, what's up?>

Ax: <Up is the opposite of down. Although, of course, those terms are meaningless outside the context of a distinct, localized gravity field.>

Tobias: <Ooookay.>

Ax: <Was that funny? I was attempting a joke.>

Tobias: <Ah. Well... I'm probably not the guy to ask,> I said evasively.

Tobias and Ax are clearly the two most interesting characters, the one thing that always disappointed me is they only got to narrate half as often as the others.

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DrizztLink posted...

I'm up to book 8 in my read-through.

Completely forgot about Ax meeting Marco's father.

I'd read the following book before and remember hearing about that second hand. I've read it now, that was a great bit.

I'm now on book 15. Book 14 where Tobias gets his morphing ability back is kind of a strange one because you'd imagine what the Ellimist gives him was the ideal gift

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Bump

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Book 16 - This Joe Bob Fenestre is an interesting character.

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I just finished the one with the skunk.

"Should we have told Visser Three it was tomato juice, not grape juice?"

"No."

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Book 18. Ax is in torment because Visser Three morphed a bird from the Andalite world. He assumes Visser Three has been there, but surely the obvious explanation is that Alloran acquired it as a prince before he was enslaved.

Seems pretty obvious to me. Maybe it'll be cleared up as the book goes on, but either way it seems like a continuity problem.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

Book 18. Ax is in torment because Visser Three morphed a bird from the Andalite world. He assumes Visser Three has been there, but surely the obvious explanation is that Alloran acquired it as a prince before he was enslaved.

Seems pretty obvious to me. Maybe it'll be cleared up as the book goes on, but either way it seems like a continuity problem.

No he seems to be right. Most andalites dont acquire animals at all, in later books Ax talks about the Animorphs actually using morphing far better than the andalites ever did.

I just finished the Andalite Chronicles, you should probably read the Hork Bajir book after 18. Andalite chronicles was insaaaaane lol

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Id go in publication order. If you look the series up on goodreads, theyre arranged in pub order there.

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Yeah, Andalite Chronicles was great. I think I've now read past most of the ones I read as a kid. The first one I owned was The Android and I must've read that a hundred times when I was little.

The only others I remember reading are the one in the alternate future where Cassie is a ruthless badass. One where Cassie has a Yeerk prisoner(?), the battle against the Howlers and one of the David books.

Makes me think there's still a hell of a lot I've never read and I'm psyched for it.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

Yeah, Andalite Chronicles was great. I think I've now read past most of the ones I read as a kid. The first one I owned was The Android and I must've read that a hundred times when I was little.

The only others I remember reading are the one in the alternate future where Cassie is a ruthless badass. One where Cassie has a Yeerk prisoner(?), the battle against the Howlers and one of the David books.

Makes me think there's still a hell of a lot I've never read and I'm psyched for it.

Those are 41, 19 and 26. Theyre among the best in the series.

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Lol, damn 19 is the next one. My list has the dinosaur Megamorphs as 18.5, but I'll be skipping over it as I've read it a bunch of times. Probably my favourite one so far.

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Personally I didn't like any of the Cassie books when I was a kid.

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Cassie herself was blah since she was the "moral" character, but she had some really good books since they would pose some sort of ethical dilemma. The one where she turns into a butterfly on the cover (The Departure) was one of my favorites in the series.
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I was surprised to learn recently that 19 is probably the #1 fan favorite. Although there were a couple of things that made it stand out, like a POV shift, it was never one of my top favorites. Well see if that changes on a reread.

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I just re-read 19... And I had forgotten how good it was. Cassie can be incredibly frustrating at times, but... Without her they'd probably all have been lost after the war for not preserving their humanity. Also this book births the yeerk peace movement and is one of the best written.

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Book 19 is important because it creates a faction of yeerks that are against enslavement, bash Cassie all you want but she was the only character who could make this happen.

Cassie also prevents the group from being straight up no better then the monsters they fight for a long time. The problem is that as the war drags on and they continue to have more stakes to worry about.

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man i love this thread

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Why didnt the Adalites just share the morphing technology with the Yeerks/Taxxons so they wouldn't feel the need to enslave entire races?

Were they too bitter about the Yeerks destroying their trust?

Slayerblade11 posted...

Why didnt the Adalites just share the morphing technology with the Yeerks/Taxxons so they wouldn't feel the need to enslave entire races?

Were they too bitter about the Yeerks destroying their trust?

That's a bad idea. it would make them easier to enslave races

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